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Post by thisxfirexburns on Oct 7, 2008 16:05:57 GMT -5
As of now ? No. If he beats Randy ? Yes. - Iron Heart yeppers |
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Oct 10, 2008 0:38:15 GMT -5
How can you say he deserves a title shot. His total MMA record is 2-1. That is .6667. His UFC record is 1-1, or .5. Let's face facts... the Cincinnati Bengals have had better records.
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Post by DWright on Oct 10, 2008 1:27:25 GMT -5
How can you say he deserves a title shot. His total MMA record is 2-1. That is .6667. His UFC record is 1-1, or .5. Let's face facts... the Cincinnati Bengals have had better records. What do the Bengals have to do with the UFC? In fact, that's an awful comparison. Comparing the NFL and the UFC makes no sense, whatsoever. And AGAIN, I'd love for anyone that says "No, he doesn't deserve a title shot" to name 1 person that should get it in place of him. |
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Post by shenmue on Oct 10, 2008 6:06:26 GMT -5
He dosen't deserve it based on his record but the UFC's Heavyweight division is small and the only big money match was Lesnar vs Couture.
Werdum isn't a big name and Nog and Mir have a match already (against each other) so it makes sense to make the match.
If Lesnar loses its no big deal because he lost to Couture, if Lesnar wins they have an even bigger money maker than they had before the fight.
Its win-win for the UFC. Then you have the winner Lesnar/Couture vs the winner of Nog/Mir all four matches would do well for different reasons.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Oct 10, 2008 10:03:28 GMT -5
How can you say he deserves a title shot. His total MMA record is 2-1. That is .6667. His UFC record is 1-1, or .5. Let's face facts... the Cincinnati Bengals have had better records. What do the Bengals have to do with the UFC? In fact, that's an awful comparison. Comparing the NFL and the UFC makes no sense, whatsoever. And AGAIN, I'd love for anyone that says "No, he doesn't deserve a title shot" to name 1 person that should get it in place of him. It was a joke about the record. But if you want me to say who deserves a shot more, how about unifying the interim and heavyweight championships first, especially with the small size of the division. |
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Post by Swarm on Oct 10, 2008 11:29:30 GMT -5
What do the Bengals have to do with the UFC? In fact, that's an awful comparison. Comparing the NFL and the UFC makes no sense, whatsoever. And AGAIN, I'd love for anyone that says "No, he doesn't deserve a title shot" to name 1 person that should get it in place of him. It was a joke about the record. But if you want me to say who deserves a shot more, how about unifying the interim and heavyweight championships first, especially with the small size of the division. So you either keep Couture on the bench until Spring next year, or despite a reality show building the fight you cancel Mir/Nogueira? In terms of having more fights to their record, clearly there are several other fighters who are more "deserving" than Lesnar. Still, you have to factor in two things; 1. Lesnar destroyed Heath Herring and until making one mistake was destroying Mir as well. If anything has been proven in MMA, it's that just winning fights does not gain you a title shot. Just ask Diego Sanchez, Josh Koscheck, or Lyota Machida. When you win impressively, however, is when you start to get bigger and better opportunities. 2. Ultimately it comes down to money. Lesnar and Couture will draw huge. Maybe even attract some people who would never otherwise watch MMA. Now would you rather a UFC Heavyweight Division that, following a huge Lesnar/Couture fight gets noticed and more prominently featured, or a UFC Heavyweight Division that's practically undercard because it doesn't draw? |
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Post by DWright on Oct 10, 2008 13:26:34 GMT -5
What do the Bengals have to do with the UFC? In fact, that's an awful comparison. Comparing the NFL and the UFC makes no sense, whatsoever. And AGAIN, I'd love for anyone that says "No, he doesn't deserve a title shot" to name 1 person that should get it in place of him. It was a joke about the record. But if you want me to say who deserves a shot more, how about unifying the interim and heavyweight championships first, especially with the small size of the division. They will unify the titles...after Nog/Mir. As it's been said, they have set up TUF for that exact fight, and have contracts signed. You can't cancel that fight just because Couture decided to come back. Lesnar is the ONLY choice right now. Therefore, he deserves the shot. |
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Post by Codesters on Oct 10, 2008 19:05:19 GMT -5
How can you say he deserves a title shot. His total MMA record is 2-1. That is .6667. His UFC record is 1-1, or .5. Let's face facts... the Cincinnati Bengals have had better records. The Bungles have a better criminal record also. |
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Post by csfreak15 on Oct 19, 2008 21:21:37 GMT -5
Go Lesnar!!!
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Post by CBT on Oct 21, 2008 22:02:54 GMT -5
Absolutely not. That said, I think he'll win. I agree with you Kliqy. |
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Post by gordon on Oct 22, 2008 11:32:03 GMT -5
He doesnt deserve it yet, but watch him do it!!!
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Nov 9, 2008 23:07:33 GMT -5
And of course the rumors persist that Brock is on the roids.
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 10, 2008 0:49:22 GMT -5
And of course the rumors persist that Brock is on the roids. Right now, he absolutely is not. |
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Post by PdW2kX on Nov 10, 2008 7:29:23 GMT -5
With his perma-bulk and hulking physique, I think the rumors of 'roid usage will always surround Brock.
That said, if Leben's suspension proves anything it's that UFC takes its screenings seriously. I believe, without a doubt in my mind, that if Brock does use (or is using right now, but I agree with Kliq that that's highly unlikely) he'll eventually get caught.
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Post by bobvandam on Nov 13, 2008 18:13:40 GMT -5
No but I would buy this Pay Per View and im really excited.
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Post by James Hetfield on Nov 13, 2008 18:47:56 GMT -5
Doesn't deserve it at all, but he's getting paid big money, so I guess he should be in big money fights.
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Post by axemurderer on Nov 13, 2008 19:28:20 GMT -5
deserving? not at all..hes done nothing to deserve a title shot...there are other people who should have got one before him.
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Post by DWright on Nov 13, 2008 20:27:39 GMT -5
deserving? not at all..hes done nothing to deserve a title shot...there are other people who should have got one before him. I'd love to know who. |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Nov 13, 2008 20:52:26 GMT -5
Brock draws an audience. He beat Heath Herring convincingly in his third MMA fight. Combine those two things -- with slightly more weight to the former, because after all, this is a business -- and he deserves to fight Couture.
I mean, UFC could just piss away the remaining fights of Couture's career against Werdum or Mir or a bunch of other guys that will only amount to 300,000 PPV buys on a good day, or they could do 800,000-1 million buys for Couture vs. Lesnar, and give those other dudes a shot at the winner down the road.
If it were my money on the table, I know which plan I would go with.
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Post by James Hetfield on Nov 13, 2008 20:56:26 GMT -5
Not sure how we can for-sure say Lesnar draws an audience. He's only had 2 UFC fights.
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