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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 7, 2014 18:16:10 GMT -5
A good half of these probably wouldn't be in my top six, nonetheless:
1. XIX 2. XXX 3. XX 4. X 5. X-Seven 6. III
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 7, 2014 15:19:25 GMT -5
Wait, isn't 'Taker himself a part-timer? Why complain about Lesnar winning being a part-timer when the part-timer's been winning EVERY YEAR for the past 2 decades?
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 7, 2014 5:31:49 GMT -5
I've been reading severely mixed reactions of this match and I want to hear your opinions on it.
Yes, the match wasn't a four-star classic and yes, Cena overcame the odds once again. The match didn't have unbelievable moves and was very slow-paced. But it told a story, and in fantastic fashion nonetheless. From the voodoo dance and the live performance to Bray begging Cena to finish him, the match spoke almost on an artistic level and broadcasted the stereotypical Cena storyline in a way we haven't seen before. With the crowd entranced in Bray and swaying back and forth throughout the match, you legimiately believed Cena was in there all by himself fighting for his legacy. Personally, I consider this a step or two behind Bryan/HHH for match of the night, and certainly nowhere near the worst match on a spectacular Wrestlemania.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 7, 2014 5:21:17 GMT -5
I love how people don't want Brock breaking the streak but were all for Sting or even Cena breaking it.
It shocked the crowd. That was the payoff from it. That was the match that, regardless of what happened during the match, the aftermath's gonna be talked about for the next 50 years. I'd much rather have an established ass-kicker like Lesnar break it than someone who hasn't been on the roster a full year that has plenty of time to be pushed.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 6, 2014 15:41:33 GMT -5
I have a little soft spot for Edge's back in 2012 (?), mostly because he was retelling a lot of the stories from his book which I read not even a month before the speech so it was good comfort in knowing those antics I read about were true.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 6, 2014 15:39:47 GMT -5
yup, a good chunk of the main feuds from the previous year, especially if they began anywhere between Summerslam and New Year's Eve, culminate at Wrestlemania, so those last reminants of the previous year aren't complete until around this time, and the payoff is the season finale at 'Mania, and the new 'season' of WWE is the following night on Raw when we deal with the fallout from the last season.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 5, 2014 19:11:45 GMT -5
I loved Slow Chemical and was majorly pissed when they got rid of it. The theme that they changed it to was also the worst Kane's used.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 5, 2014 6:52:16 GMT -5
For me, it has to be a gimmick type PPV, but with a better name than just the name of a particular match (like we're seeing with Elimination Chamber and Hell In A Cell) Personally, I agree about King Of The Ring; it was a perfect tournament based PPV. I like the kotr concept but wwe needs to play off the huge success of the ncaa march madness. Have king of the ring be a 64 man tourney with matches on raw, smackdown, and main event. That way viewers tune in to even main event so they can see it. Have the finals end at mania. So in the end have a 64 man tourney on tv from March to end of March and championship at April. Imagine the fun of trying to predict all the matches. I'm all for ripping off March Madness but I'd rather go quality matches over quantity. Eight or sixteen-man field, comprised of some perennial midcarders (Kidd, Kingston, etc.) and some established guys (Sheamus, eventually Reigns, etc.) and have the tournament riddled with upsets in high-quality matches. It would garner some momentum and get the fans behind the up-and-comer and further legitimize his push.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 5, 2014 6:17:15 GMT -5
They could've thrown some French Quarter street signs or something on the sides to add some New Orleans flair but hot damn is that a beautiful stage.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 4, 2014 17:34:20 GMT -5
Living Colour last year was the only one where the entrance flowed smoothly and didn't feel like the performance didn't detract from the entrance. Triple H's from 2002 (and '05) were garbage because it was more about the the band than the entrance. I have no problem with a band performing a theme song, but any live performance of one's theme song at any event should focus on the wrestler and not the band because, after all, it is a wrestling event.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 4, 2014 15:46:24 GMT -5
Ha. Figures AJ's the cheapest.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 3, 2014 16:46:08 GMT -5
again on the Miz.....he was booked incredibly poorly. He held the title soley to drop it to Cena.....who didn't take him seriously ONCE in any promo. Yes yes YES. Lest we forget The Miz was getting the company's biggest heat as a midcard heel from late 2009 until he won the belt. He was getting some of the biggest reactions on the card, heel or face. His mic work was fantastic compared to the promos and interviews the main event crowd gave in that time. Not to mention his in-ring work improved tremendously and the little things like his mannerisms and his overall attire and look got better. He had all the reason for the push and the fact that people then (and even now) bitched and moaned for newer guys to break into the main event, further justified his reign. It was just that he got sh*t on by booking and had to make Jerry Lawler look like a threat to his belt. That's the crappy part: if he was perceived as a legitimate champion and not John Cena's championship travel bag his reign wouldn't be looked upon so badly. Hell, even if he was booked as an upper-midcard/possible threat to the World Title from when he dropped it to the present day, he wouldn't look so bad as champion now. Nowadays, with him in this face/heel limbo state with absolutely no direction, we look at him and say "That guy was the company's top champion a few years ago?" I hate to sound like the IWC smark but it all boils down to Cena. People get the belt and get thrown into crappy situations because booking is more concerned with what they're gonna do when Cena gets the belt than when the guy is actually champion. Sheamus in 2009 was a prime example as well: won it with zero momentum, had a DQ finish at the Rumble, and dropped it in the EC like his reign didn't even matter, just so they could fuel a John Cena/Batista rivalry over the belt. Del Rio in 2011 (although he should've definitely stayed the hell away from that scenario and left it to Punk/Cena finishing business): pushed when no one cared about him, brought the belt out of the rivalry (and in turn pushed Punk outta the title picture legimiately for two months, three if you don't count the one-off at HiAC), and just loses it to Cena 3 weeks later for no reason. Wins it again 3 weeks later after a "pad Cena's stats" reign and floats around cutting mediocre promos and getting figureatively and literally beaten by both Cena and Punk before dropping the title.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Apr 2, 2014 15:54:07 GMT -5
"How did you first become a fan of WWE?" "I heard some people talking about it at school so I watched it on TV and liked it. How about you?" "Oh, I just blindly bought into a $60 commitment for something that I'd never heard of or seen before." "Really? That doesn't seem like something a real person would do." "I'm not a real person. I'm a fictional example designed to demonstrate why WWE can't just abandon TV and move absolutely everything to the network." This is a great point. I'm all for having quality wrestling shows like Main Event and NXT solely on the network, but you need a free way for fans to view your product and not only gain interest in it, but immerse yourself in the latest and biggest focal points of the product.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 31, 2014 20:54:19 GMT -5
Sorry to bump this from two days but I was thinking: the guy who does Bray's theme already confirmed that he's playing Bray to the ring, no? Let's take a look at some notable entrances with artists playing the superstar to the ring:
Triple H at Wrestlemania 21 (lost) Chris Jericho at Survivor Series 2002 (lost) CM Punk at Wrestlemania 29 (lost)
Didn't HBK have the DX Band at Wrestlemania XIV? If so that's another loss. The only winning superstar that was played to the ring by a live performance that I can think of was Triple H at Wrestlemania X8. I want Bray to win and I hate to be a negative Nancy but history's told us that Mark Crozer playing him to the ring may have sealed his fate.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 31, 2014 5:19:20 GMT -5
21 is so underrated for the great matches on that card. MiTB, 'Taker/Orton, Shawn/Angle hell even Guerrero/Mysterio was really good.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 30, 2014 8:31:16 GMT -5
I loved Beer Money, and I always wanted one of those cooler scooters James Storm rode.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 30, 2014 7:36:26 GMT -5
I woulda taken a photo from his street fight with Orton last June with Bryan holding a weapon or something, so it kinda cements the "extreme" feeling. I'm going so I can't complain lol.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 28, 2014 16:00:30 GMT -5
Kane. when I was little i thought it was cool how he did the fire pyro thing.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 27, 2014 19:31:28 GMT -5
Rumble 2000 with the cage match from Summerslam 97 in second.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 26, 2014 14:33:46 GMT -5
The way I see it:
Hulkamania: Hogan's reign in 1984 to the WWF Title being vacated in December 1991 Golden Era: WWF Title vacated in December 1991 to Yokozuna beating Hogan at King of the Ring 1993 New Generation: Yokozuna beating Hulk Hogan at KoTR 1993 to Bret turning heel in 1997 Attitude Era: Bret turning heel in 1997 to the acquisition of WCW in 2001 Ruthless Aggression: The acquisition of WCW in 2001 to Cena's and Batista's rises in 2005 "Back to Basics": Cena's and Batista's rises in 2005 to the incident in 2007 "The Dark Ages": The incident in 2007 to the Nexus's debut in 2010 "The Renaissance": The Nexus's debut in 2010 to present
The names for the last 3 are just placeholders and such but the point I'm making is we've been in the same era of wresting in my eyes since the middle of 2010.
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