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Post by maske2g on Jan 6, 2017 5:19:02 GMT -5
Nearly all of the points in the original post have been brought up, explained, and brought up again, a millions times. - The reason that the attires in the legends were obscure was because Mattel didn't want to clone attires just made by Jakks.
There have been many lengthy agreements that the timing of the line was probably a bigger cause of the failure. It was too soon after Classic superstars, and people were unsure whether to start that commitment again, especially when the releases were so sparse.
Mattel had a long term deal that was extended. You can't release all the prime figures in the first few years. If you don't hold anything back, then you will lose the interest of long term collectors like us.
The reason that the DM line has some non DM events is because they have run out of DM events. e.g Ultimate Warriors' other defining moments had been released in other lines. And actually, while shortlived (3-4 appearances) everyone still remembers Ultimate Maniacs. But what are they going to make instead? When posed with that question, the forum did not have the answers.
- The HOF 4 packs, were actually fantastic sets. When announced people were very excited.
Matty Collector Arn and Tully Blanchard was going for silly amounts of money. Barry Windham was a new figure (allbeit a terrible figure). The Horseman are in the top 5 stables of all time.
The heenan family. Two new figures. Bobby The Brain in WM 3 attire and a fantastic BJS figure. Then a second Elite Perfect, and new fantastic Andre sculpt.
The problem with those is not the selection. The problem is that Target are DOGSHYTE!
- I don't see the point of the Shield 3 pack either, though it will sell like hot cakes. The Bash at the beach 3 pack is iconic. They aren't great figs and I just feel that WCW figs in general are for a small target market, but to call them a bad choice is ridiculous. What do you want, more of the same over and over again? We cry out for new figures.
You have to start being realistic about what is left in Mattel's lifespan with respect to former stars. There really aren't a lot left to make.
The alumni is thread bare. The amount of people in litigation with WWE is massive. Then you have the No-go's like Owen Hart, and dead people they can't trace like Dino Bravo's family.
And this is why we are getting more Sgt SLaughters', JBL's, Rereleases, Warrior's, HBK's and Macho's coming out of our ears. They sell for MAttel. They have attires for days, You see them on shelves, because they are made in far larger quantities than e.g the new Alex Bliss basic etc etc. THink about it.....The Ultimate Warrior....Alexa Bliss. Who is going to sell more ??? Did you have to think long........
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Post by maske2g on Jan 5, 2017 16:55:57 GMT -5
"Complainers probably can't afford them" I sold 15k's worth of figures in 2016. "You have to have them in hand. " I've probably seen 20 S.H.F figs in person. "They are better because they are more expensive" Utter bollox. It looks like 50 year old stone cold. It doesn't look like 35 years Stone cold. Not now. Not ever. The Rock is an ok sculpt. No better or worse. Realistic paint work, does not magically make something look more like the person. It makes it look human yes. When it comes to human face sculpts from S.H.F they are HIT AND MISS> WWE MISS all round. Luke Skywalkers iV and VI both superb. Young Ewan looks like a corpse. Old Ewan is great. Mace WIndu looks like he is having a dump. Tony Stark is the best. Thor looks like a cheap Disney toy beneath the Legends line. You do NOT always get what you pay for. Regardless of if you think the faces look good, how's Mattel's record for producing realistic faces? Has Mattel ever done a photo realistic face? No. Can the Figuarts do much more realistic WRESTLING MOVES? Yes. Isn't this the main objective of a wrestling toy? The bottom line is the Mattel figures are children's toys and the Figuarts are made for collecters. I'd rather a slightly undersized figure of a wrestler with realistic proportions and body mass rather than these generic, out-of-proportion bodies (AJ, Finn). But maybe you're different and that's okay and what makes the world a wonderful place. I can choose to spend my money on them and you don't have to. All I know is I've been happier than ever since I dropped The Black Series line and went all Figuarts. Bring on 6-8 figures a year Bandai. You have my money. You are missing the point!!! If a professional painter (and Im sure you can find pics) hand painted mattel to the standard of SHF I bet Mattel has actually done over 200 better scans than that dog shyte stone cold sculpt!!! You will be waiting a long time for a full Star wars cast....but there are some great ones I agree. I collect hot toys Star wars so i know how that feels...
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Post by maske2g on Jan 5, 2017 13:42:22 GMT -5
"Complainers probably can't afford them" I sold 15k's worth of figures in 2016.
"You have to have them in hand. " I've probably seen 20 S.H.F figs in person.
"They are better because they are more expensive" Utter bollox.
It looks like 50 year old stone cold. It doesn't look like 35 years Stone cold. Not now. Not ever.
The Rock is an ok sculpt. No better or worse.
Realistic paint work, does not magically make something look more like the person. It makes it look human yes.
When it comes to human face sculpts from S.H.F they are HIT AND MISS>
WWE MISS all round.
Luke Skywalkers iV and VI both superb.
Young Ewan looks like a corpse. Old Ewan is great.
Mace WIndu looks like he is having a dump.
Tony Stark is the best.
Thor looks like a cheap Disney toy beneath the Legends line.
You do NOT always get what you pay for.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 5, 2017 13:06:32 GMT -5
Asda??? are you for real ???
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Post by maske2g on Jan 5, 2017 12:59:47 GMT -5
Dude, you are continually disappointed by what is written on a website by various, poorly paid web developers, who probably know next to nothing about wrestling figures, and are just putting stuff up as they see it, rather than paying attention to any detail. Relax. The fact I can buy something from anywhere in the world and track its movements surely means a multi million pound company does the same (I know they get stocked by suppliers and not directly but they are still fed information) The fact they can't give a release date is fine and doesn't bother me in the slightest, just then why predict one and totally miss it (wrestlemania elite December for example) Because its not cost efficient for them to provide that sort of micro data.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 5, 2017 4:53:14 GMT -5
The amount of sets due to drop any time even has me bewildered and confused, and I'm usually on top of this stuff (dates based on Smyths site, or not) Mutants (some stores have them already) Wrestlemania 33 Basics - No date listed Wrestlemania 33 Elites - No date listed Basic 68a - Estimated February Basic 68b - Estimated 23rd January Basic 69 - Estimated 14th January Elite 47a - Not listed Elite 47b Not listed Elite 48 - Estimated February Battlepacks 43.5 - Not listed Battlepacks 44 - Not listed This is actually stupid xD How can b69 come out before 68a & 68b Literally been checking here daily and even phoned Smyths today (1 of 2 delivery days for my local store) and they had a case of e46 in their delivery today THATS IT! (The guy did tell me the characters within the set) Dude, you are continually disappointed by what is written on a website by various, poorly paid web developers, who probably know next to nothing about wrestling figures, and are just putting stuff up as they see it, rather than paying attention to any detail. Relax.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 1, 2017 11:48:16 GMT -5
I've been saying for several months now in great detail, why I believe the sales are steadily declining. figs on ebay have absolutely DIED a death. It's such a big gauge.
My new thoughts regarding Mattel going forward are, outside of 3-4 top names, the amount of people they can get signed and made have deteriorated rapidly. 60+ names that will never be made. And more and more legends getting second figures.
I believe we won't get more than 6-8 new, unmade legends in 2017, and if the TV show keeps it's current form, the current "stars" or lack of, will not be enough to keep the line successful. So it wouldn't surprise me if its Mattel that sack off the line in 2018-19.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 1, 2017 11:42:47 GMT -5
Where did you 'hear' this ... sounds more like your opinion to me. WWE would be absolutely ignorant to go back to Jakks. I heard it from someone in the business. And Jakks taking over items like belts and the wrestling buddies is fact, not my opinion. It is already happening. Someone you know in the business, know a decision that is likely 12-18 months away? Can he tell me this weekends lottery numbers as well please? And the next 12 intercontinental champions?
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Post by maske2g on Jan 1, 2017 11:37:59 GMT -5
I knew these wouldn't be well received here. This isn't the kind of group who likes things that are different or can appreciate these import figures for what they are. Try to be a bit more patronising.... What exactly are they trying to be? I love the SHF non-human figures. The more I look at this figure the more I think the designer and the person that signed off on production are lucky to still be employed. I think this is my favourite pic. It looks like Gilberg got cancer of the face and then tried to do an impression of a Bruce Lee villain.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 1, 2017 10:28:07 GMT -5
I've spoke to the Buying team at Asda before and it's very difficult for them To see what they have I remember asking them about the superstar entrances Series the one with Hogan in and they weren't able to tell the difference between that series and the Piper series, ended up telling me they won't be stocking them only To find some of that series crop up in my local Asda also asked them about Bam Bam and they didn't know about that either Surely MDT would know who had the exclusive rights to them in the U.K. The same way they do in the US? I doubt it, Bill is a designer, he doesn't work in distribution so he never seems to be able to answer in detail on distribution issues even in the US -- either because he doesn't follow it or because he's not really allowed to go into detail. Regardless, we already know that the Then Now Forever line is Asda, so if they're not talking, it'd have to be someone in Mattel's distribution department. And I suspect they'd also be as vague as the Asda buyers when it comes to individual assortments. Ultimately the problem with queries like this is it involves someone on the other end of the phone/email doing some work to look into it, and it's a lot easier for them to say they can't. So we are left having to choose between stupid eBay prices or waiting for someone to post that they found them somewhere here. And even that's unreliable, like the phantom sighting of the TNF two packs. . Asda are owned by walmart. We will get any leftovers from America. Mattel and Asda will have less than zero involvement. Bill woll care even less. If the mass distributors buy them he doesnt care where they end up.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 1, 2017 10:25:10 GMT -5
I like how the Mattel fig looks like stone cold Steve Austin. And the Figuarts one looks like Right Said Fred dressed up as Stone Cold. People get a hard on for the name Figuarts. These scans suck Dude the Figuarts scan looks so much like Austin it's actually scary. It's like a miniature sculpt from Madame tussauds. it really doesnt. Its a well painted bald bloke.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 1, 2017 10:23:00 GMT -5
I like how the Mattel fig looks like stone cold Steve Austin. And the Figuarts one looks like Right Said Fred dressed up as Stone Cold. People get a hard on for the name Figuarts. These scans suck You think the mattel sculpt looks more like Austin than the figuarts? Are we looking at the same pic lol. The figuarts looks just like him. dont confuse paint job wwith scan. It looks human. Ot looks nothing like Stone cold.
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Post by maske2g on Jan 1, 2017 5:31:27 GMT -5
I like how the Mattel fig looks like stone cold Steve Austin.
And the Figuarts one looks like Right Said Fred dressed up as Stone Cold.
People get a hard on for the name Figuarts. These scans suck
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Post by maske2g on Dec 28, 2016 18:58:29 GMT -5
40 dollars? for real? I'll have 10......
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Post by maske2g on Dec 19, 2016 4:07:41 GMT -5
This about the 10th time they have listed things in the wrong order. Everytime has been a ridiculous panic.
Just keep supporting Smyths, at tempting as it is when figs on Amazon are as cheap or cheaper.
They cannot help the weak pound but we can.
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Post by maske2g on Dec 14, 2016 1:16:50 GMT -5
WWE no longer have an issue showing the "F" just bring the full logo back for christ sake. This legends logo is ghastly.
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Post by maske2g on Nov 29, 2016 2:24:23 GMT -5
Wow, amazing looking display. Custom shelfs? Really like the color as well, gives it a different feel than the usual black or white backdrop. Cheers mate, I built them myself. I will post some pics of the project. It has some problems but I only rent the house so next time I know better.
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Post by maske2g on Nov 29, 2016 2:15:14 GMT -5
I see Kalisto is on the Raw side, did you just wanna make use of his little pose thingy? Cause he's on smackdown, they just had a big storyline about that lol. Ha yeah, Those high flying things are cr4p for lon term posing!!! I can't fit all the raw people on that side so i took a few liberties.
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Post by maske2g on Nov 28, 2016 19:07:42 GMT -5
I have the same problem with getting a nice display and then too many releases come along and figures are everywhere and in tubs. Pretty sure I should just display my figures in the kitchen cabinets, because I probably have more of them than food/dishes.... Also Bayley and Foxy should be on the RAW side. Some others too, but I know...space . Yeah I've given up on that!! Maybe the ring will go. Its dated and the ropes are terrible.
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Post by maske2g on Nov 28, 2016 18:42:21 GMT -5
Lots of update in the top thread.
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