KRAYZIE BONE
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Apr 9, 2013 22:33:41 GMT -5
Im 28 years old, and have never had a drink or done any drugs or had a smoke or anything. A few years back someone told me, "Oh, youre straight edge?" I was like, uh, sure. I had never heard of it. I looked it up later and saw what it was.
Am I the only one who thinks its absolutely lame to label yourself, or get tattoos about it and stuff? I never even thought about it. I just never did that because it didn't appeal to me. The idea of even being labeled something by others annoys me.
Anyone else feel that way?
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Post by slappy on Apr 9, 2013 22:37:21 GMT -5
You're not true straight edge unless you also listen to the music.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Apr 9, 2013 22:38:43 GMT -5
Yeah a little. I mean everyone makes choices on things why label them? I was never really a big drinker and i never smoked. I wouldn't of considered myself straight edge before i started drinking though. Just never really felt like it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 22:39:16 GMT -5
eh, i say just do what you want.
i dont smoke, or do drugs. and i can count the number of beers ive had since i turned 21. ive never been drunk, dont want to.....i like hard cider but hey thats ok
other than that yeah im pretty straight edge
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Post by noir on Apr 9, 2013 22:47:32 GMT -5
yes I agree the whole label is silly. super props if you don't do drugs/drink because of health reasons or whatever but the whole 'straight edge' label just strikes me as a way for young people (who often are way under legal drinking age anyway) to make themselves look unique or different. Which is cool whatever, kids are impressionable.
I also find it funny how substances such as caffeine or prescription pills are often used by people in this scene. Drugs by definition, but because the general populace doesn't class them as drugs, they're okay. Hmm yeah, way to stick it to the man.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Apr 9, 2013 22:54:45 GMT -5
As an addict to caffeine, I agree completely. We all have our vices.
I actually look down on people who label themselves and build up the fact that they're "straight edge"
Be you, without promoting it and labeling it. Its a gimmick at that point, and that gets no respect
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Post by slappy on Apr 9, 2013 22:59:14 GMT -5
yes I agree the whole label is silly. super props if you don't do drugs/drink because of health reasons or whatever but the whole 'straight edge' label just strikes me as a way for young people (who often are way under legal drinking age anyway) to make themselves look unique or different. Which is cool whatever, kids are impressionable. I also find it funny how substances such as caffeine or prescription pills are often used by people in this scene. Drugs by definition, but because the general populace doesn't class them as drugs, they're okay. Hmm yeah, way to stick it to the man. Are people really straight edge to stick it to the man? Straight edge is a personal thing and there is not one strict definition. Some straight edge people don't ingest caffeine or take prescription pills. Some don't eat meat. Some don't have promiscuous sex. It is all about the personal belief of the person.
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Apr 9, 2013 23:02:36 GMT -5
I don't mind certain labels but I don't like to be associated with them all the time or when people use it to justify all my ideas/thoughts into a separate branch of some sort as if it's irrelevant because of it. Technically speaking though, anyone who has taken prescription pills at any point of their life, that disqualifies them from being "Straight Edge" regardless of everything else.
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Post by slappy on Apr 9, 2013 23:11:17 GMT -5
Technically speaking though, anyone who has taken prescription pills at any point of their life, that disqualifies them from being "Straight Edge" regardless of everything else. That's not right, but ok. If you have an infection should you not take medicine because you're straight edge? Of course you take it. Most people who are straight edge understand that. "How can you take control of your life if you're delirious or dead!" I've heard it said that straight edge is defiance of self-destructive behavior. So taking something like prescription medicine or caffeine is ok as long as you don't over do it.
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Post by tokobroko on Apr 9, 2013 23:21:13 GMT -5
No, it's much easier to say you are "Straight Edge" and get your point across then to say I listen to this type of music, I don't do drugs....blah blah blah
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Post by Focalin on Apr 9, 2013 23:25:45 GMT -5
being straight edge is being clean for life. not just being clean. I'm straight edge, i'm not vegan edge, I'm not hardcore (I take medication for my add). I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs, I chose this life for me before it had a name, once I found out there was a name for my lifestyle, it became something to take pride in.
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KRAYZIE BONE
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Apr 9, 2013 23:34:41 GMT -5
Me and you just don't think the same. I don't take pride in my life style choices. I just live my life and do me. I take pride in my creations and my accomplishments. Things of that nature. Not drinking and not smoking is not applicable to me in that way.
Honestly, I look at being proud of not drinking or smoking the same way I look at people who think its "cool" or "impressive" to be drunk .... not in a good way.
but if it makes you happy, power to you my friend. I wish you well.
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Post by Valbroski on Apr 10, 2013 0:09:03 GMT -5
As long as you're not addicted to anything or let substances control you I don't think it matters either way. Make smart choices and let other people worry about labels.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 0:14:32 GMT -5
I've never had a drop of alcohol, don't drink energy drinks or many sodas, never smoked or took drugs or over-the-counter medication, never went around having sex with everyone, just the girl I love. Even though that's the "symptoms" I don't really consider myself "straight edge" even though I do wear some shirts like the one Punk wore at ER and band merch. I prefer to call myself a guy who just doesn't want chemicals you're not supposed to have in the body.
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Post by A Flair for the Gold on Apr 10, 2013 0:16:51 GMT -5
not trying to be a jerk, but i am sure alot of people didn't know what straight edge was til it came out of CM punk's mouth, as far as wrestling fans go. this whole labeling of certain people in society is stupid. we are all human beings. some of us make mistakes, and some live their life cautiously. i don't label people. to me, it's like racism and homophobia. labeling people is just dumb. if you think you need a label to justify your life, by all means go ahead. all i'm saying is, labels don't matter at all.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Apr 10, 2013 0:19:55 GMT -5
I'm Straight Edge.
I never talk about it. I'm not an elitist. All of my friends drink, some smoke, big deal. I made the decision for myself and for my future kids. Addiction and substance issues run rampant in my family, and that stops with me. My kids will never even know it was an issue.
That's why I do what I do. I'm very proud of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 0:21:51 GMT -5
Addiction and substance issues run rampant in my family, and that stops with me. That's why I do what I do. I'm very proud of it. Same reason here. Plus, I wanna enjoy a night out and remember it the following day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 0:25:46 GMT -5
not trying to be a jerk, but i am sure alot of people didn't know what straight edge was til it came out of CM punk's mouth, as far as wrestling fans go. this whole labeling of certain people in society is stupid. we are all human beings. some of us make mistakes, and some live their life cautiously. i don't label people. to me, it's like racism and homophobia. labeling people is just dumb. if you think you need a label to justify your life, by all means go ahead. all i'm saying is, labels don't matter at all. beleive it or not labels make the world go 'round.
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Post by AdamBomb on Apr 10, 2013 2:33:16 GMT -5
People keep calling it a "label", to those who live their lives as straight edge, or hardliners, it is not a label. It's a culture and a lifestyle choice. I am not straight edge, I do like the occasional beer, but I understand where the people are coming from. The whole thing spun off of the hardcore punk movement of the 1980's, where drug use was more than rampant, for those people who didn't want to get ed up and drink, and do those drugs, Minor Threat gave them, inadvertently, a name to call themselves. And for those of you so poignant to point out caffeine not being "straight edge", here is something Ian MacKaye once said when someone came up to him, asked him if he was still straight edge, and when he answered yes, the person said, "well my friend says caffeine is a drug, and you're drinking iced tea..." - in which Ian responded, "tell your friend, you". Want to know the differences between straight edge and hardlining? Listen to the Minor Threat song "Straight Edge", then go listen to any Vegan Reich song. You're welcome.
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Post by Charabro on Apr 10, 2013 3:49:17 GMT -5
I'm straight edge. I suppose the tattoo's and to label yourself kinda gives it the community feeling of belonging in a movement.
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