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Post by Himmy! on Jun 23, 2013 4:52:17 GMT -5
That was unnecessary....
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Post by Ryan on Jun 28, 2013 6:59:12 GMT -5
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 28, 2013 10:07:36 GMT -5
Use the transfer thread for all this Villa nonsense ffs
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Post by Lemmy on Jun 28, 2013 15:14:51 GMT -5
Danny Simpson signing for QPR. Never been a massive fan of his, but he's not the worst defender in our ranks. Should've been planning a replacement for him last season since his deal was running out.
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Post by Y2J13 on Jul 3, 2013 19:33:55 GMT -5
My table prediction for this season:
1. Manchester City 2. Chelsea 3. Manchester United 4. Tottenham Hotspur 5. Arsenal 6. Liverpool 7. Everton 8. West Ham United 9. Southampton 10. Newcastle United 11. Aston Villa 12. West Bromwich Albion 13. Fulham 14. Swansea City 15. Norwich City 16. Stoke City 17. Cardiff City 18. Sunderland 19. Hull City 20. Crystal Palace
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jul 24, 2013 10:53:23 GMT -5
Friendly or not that performance against Spurs this morning was fantastic, hoping it's a sign for things to come. In hindsight though the matches should never of gone ahead in those conditions especially when you look at Vertonghen's injury.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jul 30, 2013 3:46:03 GMT -5
Sickened to hear of Christian Benitez's death. Never really impressed me when he was at Birmingham but anyone to die at 27 is tragic.
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Post by Noza on Jul 30, 2013 9:05:10 GMT -5
Read about yesterday and was stunned. Wasn't he only linked with Tottenham the other month?
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jul 30, 2013 10:19:19 GMT -5
Yeah he was. Not being funny but I bet El Jaish are reeling in more ways than one, especially after spending about 15m dollars on him.
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Post by Y2J13 on Jul 30, 2013 10:20:36 GMT -5
Sky Sports are saying Real Madrid have made an official offer of £85m for Bale.
.....I'd accept it tbh if I were Spurs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 10:57:54 GMT -5
Sky Sports are saying Real Madrid have made an official offer of £85m for Bale. .....I'd accept it tbh if I were Spurs. Why would you? We're not in a position where we need to sell Bale. Financially we're stable. We have a lot of players that aren't in our plans for next season that we can sell for reasonable amounts of cash to make further signings to actually strengthen our squad. The way I see the Bale saga; we're in an incredibly strong position, one which very few selling teams will ever find themselves in. Bale still has 3 years left on his contract, there is absolutely no evidence apart from a few regurgitated Marca articles (with no quotes, I might add) that he's actually said he wants to leave. There is nothing to indicate that when he's back from injury he wont train and play as normal, and be back to his best. It's simple really, Real can tap him up through Ancelotti, Zidane, Marcelo, Modric, Cassilas, Perez, The King of Spain, Salvador Dali, the Spanish '88 Olympic Beach Volleyball team, Enrique Inglesias, Sergio Garcia, or Dora the Explorer all they ing want, but until they top a bid of c.£120m they wont be able to sign him. I don't understand how, or why presidents/chairmen/managers of other clubs can still think they can outfox Levy, especially when he holds all the cards like he does with the Bale deal. We're talking about a man who missed out on Joao Moutinho because he refused to pay an extra £1.5m on a £21m agreed deal to cover third party ownership fees. Levy is a businessman first and a Spurs fan second.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 11:05:13 GMT -5
And just to keep this on topic, predictions for next year;
PL Standings:
1. City ------------------ 2. Chelsea 3. United 4. Arsenal ------------------ 5. Spurs ------------------ 18. Stoke 19. Palace 20. Hull
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Aug 4, 2013 11:44:43 GMT -5
Sky Sports are saying Real Madrid have made an official offer of £85m for Bale. .....I'd accept it tbh if I were Spurs. Why would you? We're not in a position where we need to sell Bale. Financially we're stable. We have a lot of players that aren't in our plans for next season that we can sell for reasonable amounts of cash to make further signings to actually strengthen our squad. The way I see the Bale saga; we're in an incredibly strong position, one which very few selling teams will ever find themselves in. Bale still has 3 years left on his contract, there is absolutely no evidence apart from a few regurgitated Marca articles (with no quotes, I might add) that he's actually said he wants to leave. There is nothing to indicate that when he's back from injury he wont train and play as normal, and be back to his best. It's simple really, Real can tap him up through Ancelotti, Zidane, Marcelo, Modric, Cassilas, Perez, The King of Spain, Salvador Dali, the Spanish '88 Olympic Beach Volleyball team, Enrique Inglesias, Sergio Garcia, or Dora the Explorer all they ing want, but until they top a bid of c.£120m they wont be able to sign him. I don't understand how, or why presidents/chairmen/managers of other clubs can still think they can outfox Levy, especially when he holds all the cards like he does with the Bale deal. We're talking about a man who missed out on Joao Moutinho because he refused to pay an extra £1.5m on a £21m agreed deal to cover third party ownership fees. Levy is a businessman first and a Spurs fan second. Because he's not worth half of the £105m offered. If Ronaldo, who had done everything and was the best player in the world when he left, was worth £80m, there's no way Bale, who has had a couple of good seasons and one fantastic one, is worth more than £50m. Regardless of his age, there's no proof he can keep this up. With the £100m you could buy 3 world class players and make your team far stronger overall, instead of gambling that Bale will be even better than last year (because if he stays the same his value will fall, as he has less time left on his contract). If I were Spurs I'd take the money and run. You'd be a stronger team overall, and more likely to get 4th, if you reinvested it.
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Post by Y2J13 on Aug 4, 2013 12:33:15 GMT -5
Sky Sports are saying Real Madrid have made an official offer of £85m for Bale. .....I'd accept it tbh if I were Spurs. Why would you? We're not in a position where we need to sell Bale. Financially we're stable. We have a lot of players that aren't in our plans for next season that we can sell for reasonable amounts of cash to make further signings to actually strengthen our squad. The way I see the Bale saga; we're in an incredibly strong position, one which very few selling teams will ever find themselves in. Bale still has 3 years left on his contract, there is absolutely no evidence apart from a few regurgitated Marca articles (with no quotes, I might add) that he's actually said he wants to leave. There is nothing to indicate that when he's back from injury he wont train and play as normal, and be back to his best. It's simple really, Real can tap him up through Ancelotti, Zidane, Marcelo, Modric, Cassilas, Perez, The King of Spain, Salvador Dali, the Spanish '88 Olympic Beach Volleyball team, Enrique Inglesias, Sergio Garcia, or Dora the Explorer all they ing want, but until they top a bid of c.£120m they wont be able to sign him. I don't understand how, or why presidents/chairmen/managers of other clubs can still think they can outfox Levy, especially when he holds all the cards like he does with the Bale deal. We're talking about a man who missed out on Joao Moutinho because he refused to pay an extra £1.5m on a £21m agreed deal to cover third party ownership fees. Levy is a businessman first and a Spurs fan second. Because by all accounts, he wants to go. Why would you want to keep an unhappy player, especially when you can get such a fantastic deal on him and bring in players just as good as him with the money? Also it's kinda crazy @hughy that you are a Spurs supporter but you don't even back them to finish above Arsenal this season even though Spurs have signed several good players (and still have Bale atm) while Arsenal haven't signed anyone. Very strange indeed.
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Post by Noza on Aug 4, 2013 13:11:07 GMT -5
In the modern climate (values have gone insane since Ronaldo went to Real Madrid), Gareth Bale is worth about £75 million. He's only had one amazing season, and I'm sure he can replicate it, but if Tottenham get an offer of £80 million plus, they would be mad not to take it. Only thing that's gunna potentially put them off is, whilst they can replace him, they are going to get absolutely ripped off by all teams they try and buy players from as the club know Spurs will have money to burn.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 15:11:31 GMT -5
Why would you? We're not in a position where we need to sell Bale. Financially we're stable. We have a lot of players that aren't in our plans for next season that we can sell for reasonable amounts of cash to make further signings to actually strengthen our squad. The way I see the Bale saga; we're in an incredibly strong position, one which very few selling teams will ever find themselves in. Bale still has 3 years left on his contract, there is absolutely no evidence apart from a few regurgitated Marca articles (with no quotes, I might add) that he's actually said he wants to leave. There is nothing to indicate that when he's back from injury he wont train and play as normal, and be back to his best. It's simple really, Real can tap him up through Ancelotti, Zidane, Marcelo, Modric, Cassilas, Perez, The King of Spain, Salvador Dali, the Spanish '88 Olympic Beach Volleyball team, Enrique Inglesias, Sergio Garcia, or Dora the Explorer all they ing want, but until they top a bid of c.£120m they wont be able to sign him. I don't understand how, or why presidents/chairmen/managers of other clubs can still think they can outfox Levy, especially when he holds all the cards like he does with the Bale deal. We're talking about a man who missed out on Joao Moutinho because he refused to pay an extra £1.5m on a £21m agreed deal to cover third party ownership fees. Levy is a businessman first and a Spurs fan second. Because he's not worth half of the £105m offered. If Ronaldo, who had done everything and was the best player in the world when he left, was worth £80m, there's no way Bale, who has had a couple of good seasons and one fantastic one, is worth more than £50m. Regardless of his age, there's no proof he can keep this up. With the £100m you could buy 3 world class players and make your team far stronger overall, instead of gambling that Bale will be even better than last year (because if he stays the same his value will fall, as he has less time left on his contract). If I were Spurs I'd take the money and run. You'd be a stronger team overall, and more likely to get 4th, if you reinvested it. With 3 world class players comes three sets of world class player wages. What you may or may not be aware is we're a club that still operates on a relatively small wage budget, for example Jan Vertonghen being on £60k per week, whilst his Belgian CB partner Vincent Kompany is on treble that at City. As soon as you start paying players £100k a week (which is reportedly what we're paying Soldado), it automatically drives up their colleagues wages when it's time to offer them a new contract. We simply don't have the backing to do this. Besides, what I've just typed is wholly irrelevant, because there is absolutely no way on earth Real would EVER offer us over about £40m up front for Bale. The offer that they made last week was 100m Euros, in 5 annual installments of 20m Euros. Now, let me ask you, if you were Daniel Levy would you take this?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 15:18:28 GMT -5
Why would you? We're not in a position where we need to sell Bale. Financially we're stable. We have a lot of players that aren't in our plans for next season that we can sell for reasonable amounts of cash to make further signings to actually strengthen our squad. The way I see the Bale saga; we're in an incredibly strong position, one which very few selling teams will ever find themselves in. Bale still has 3 years left on his contract, there is absolutely no evidence apart from a few regurgitated Marca articles (with no quotes, I might add) that he's actually said he wants to leave. There is nothing to indicate that when he's back from injury he wont train and play as normal, and be back to his best. It's simple really, Real can tap him up through Ancelotti, Zidane, Marcelo, Modric, Cassilas, Perez, The King of Spain, Salvador Dali, the Spanish '88 Olympic Beach Volleyball team, Enrique Inglesias, Sergio Garcia, or Dora the Explorer all they ing want, but until they top a bid of c.£120m they wont be able to sign him. I don't understand how, or why presidents/chairmen/managers of other clubs can still think they can outfox Levy, especially when he holds all the cards like he does with the Bale deal. We're talking about a man who missed out on Joao Moutinho because he refused to pay an extra £1.5m on a £21m agreed deal to cover third party ownership fees. Levy is a businessman first and a Spurs fan second. Because by all accounts, he wants to go. Why would you want to keep an unhappy player, especially when you can get such a fantastic deal on him and bring in players just as good as him with the money? Also it's kinda crazy @hughy that you are a Spurs supporter but you don't even back them to finish above Arsenal this season even though Spurs have signed several good players (and still have Bale atm) while Arsenal haven't signed anyone. Very strange indeed. Because Arsenal will sign players. I think they'll come in to their own this season. Don't get me wrong, I hate them and everything they stand for, but pound-for-pound they're still ahead of us. They'll have a settled squad, a manager who is quite frankly a genius, and a midfield trio of Arteta, Wilshere and Cazorla who I actually rate as being one of the best, if not the best in the league at the moment. Underestimate them at your peril.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Aug 4, 2013 15:19:03 GMT -5
Because he's not worth half of the £105m offered. If Ronaldo, who had done everything and was the best player in the world when he left, was worth £80m, there's no way Bale, who has had a couple of good seasons and one fantastic one, is worth more than £50m. Regardless of his age, there's no proof he can keep this up. With the £100m you could buy 3 world class players and make your team far stronger overall, instead of gambling that Bale will be even better than last year (because if he stays the same his value will fall, as he has less time left on his contract). If I were Spurs I'd take the money and run. You'd be a stronger team overall, and more likely to get 4th, if you reinvested it. With 3 world class players comes three sets of world class player wages. What you may or may not be aware is we're a club that still operates on a relatively small wage budget, for example Jan Vertonghen being on £60k per week, whilst his Belgian CB partner Vincent Kompany is on treble that at City. As soon as you start paying players £100k a week (which is reportedly what we're paying Soldado), it automatically drives up their colleagues wages when it's time to offer them a new contract. We simply don't have the backing to do this. Besides, what I've just typed is wholly irrelevant, because there is absolutely no way on earth Real would EVER offer us over about £40m up front for Bale. The offer that they made last week was 100m Euros, in 5 annual installments of 20m Euros. Now, let me ask you, if you were Daniel Levy would you take this? Part of the reason Kompany gets more is because he's at City, but he's also a better defender. To make Bale stay he would probably need to be on 150k p/w, but if you buy 3 players for £30m you could use Bale's wages plus the remaining £15m from the reported £105m fee to pay off a good chunk of their contracts. I'm sure if Levy bargained hard enough they would pay more up front. Perez recently revealed that we insisted all £80m was paid up front, and that's what they did.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 15:29:51 GMT -5
With 3 world class players comes three sets of world class player wages. What you may or may not be aware is we're a club that still operates on a relatively small wage budget, for example Jan Vertonghen being on £60k per week, whilst his Belgian CB partner Vincent Kompany is on treble that at City. As soon as you start paying players £100k a week (which is reportedly what we're paying Soldado), it automatically drives up their colleagues wages when it's time to offer them a new contract. We simply don't have the backing to do this. Besides, what I've just typed is wholly irrelevant, because there is absolutely no way on earth Real would EVER offer us over about £40m up front for Bale. The offer that they made last week was 100m Euros, in 5 annual installments of 20m Euros. Now, let me ask you, if you were Daniel Levy would you take this? Part of the reason Kompany gets more is because he's at City, but he's also a better defender. To make Bale stay he would probably need to be on 150k p/w, but if you buy 3 players for £30m you could use Bale's wages plus the remaining £15m from the reported £105m fee to pay off a good chunk of their contracts. I'm sure if Levy bargained hard enough they would pay more up front. Perez recently revealed that we insisted all £80m was paid up front, and that's what they did. Considering Vertonghen played large chunks of last season at LB and still got in the PL team of the year, I wouldn't say there is much in it at all in terms of defensive qualities between them. But it proves my point that teams like City can afford to splurge £30m and £150k/p on wages on a single player if they lose one suddenly and we can't. It's a known fact, and it's silly to say we could just re-invest the cash straight away. Real apparently haven't even paid us off for Modric yet. Add that to the 70m Euros they've already spent this window and I think it's fair to say they wont be coughing up anything near what we want in an initial payment anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 15:33:49 GMT -5
Ohh, and if you can find me 3 world class players for £10m a pop I'll suck you off every day for the rest of the year.
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