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Post by IRS on Jun 3, 2013 22:28:34 GMT -5
RAW should go back to 2 hours. The show quality has only gone downhill since RAW 1000 and it's obvious that WWE can't fill the time properly. I doubt that Vince actually will, but I think the shows would be so much better each week, especially since one hour is basically used to promote Twitter, the WWE App, and a Great Khali match. So is anyone in agreement?
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Post by Jamal on Jun 3, 2013 22:30:24 GMT -5
I think we could have all agreed a week after the 3 hour start.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jun 3, 2013 22:31:16 GMT -5
Stick to 3 hours. What we really NEED, is to kill the supershows. If your exclusiv to Raw or Smackdown, then that's where you stay.
Do a draft if you must, but bring back the brand exclusivness.
Ok, Raw is still 3 hours. What do we do? Oh, Cruiserweight division? Push Tag Teams? Mid Card fueds without belts?
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 3, 2013 22:37:10 GMT -5
Stick to 3 hours. What we really NEED, is to kill the supershows. If your exclusiv to Raw or Smackdown, then that's where you stay. Do a draft if you must, but bring back the brand exclusivness. Ok, Raw is still 3 hours. What do we do? Oh, Cruiserweight division? Push Tag Teams? Mid Card fueds without belts? It's a keen idea, but as long as Raw is three hours, they're still going to spend the first 10 minutes of the second hour recapping the first, and the first 20 minutes of the third hour recapping the first two. Brand exclusivity won't change that part of it. Not to mention they'll still dedicate a half-hour of Smackdown to recapping Raw.
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Post by sideeffect on Jun 3, 2013 22:39:30 GMT -5
I don't think they will move back, there was a statement a while ago from USA that WWE are making money going three hours from ad revenue and sponsorships compared to two.
WWE is a business like any other and the main goal is to make money.
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Post by slappy on Jun 3, 2013 22:39:45 GMT -5
Vince doesn't want Raw to be 3 hours. USA wants it to be 3 hours. I've read in the past that Vince would like Raw to be 90 minutes.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jun 3, 2013 22:40:49 GMT -5
Stick to 3 hours. What we really NEED, is to kill the supershows. If your exclusiv to Raw or Smackdown, then that's where you stay. Do a draft if you must, but bring back the brand exclusivness. Ok, Raw is still 3 hours. What do we do? Oh, Cruiserweight division? Push Tag Teams? Mid Card fueds without belts? It's a keen idea, but as long as Raw is three hours, they're still going to spend the first 10 minutes of the second hour recapping the first, and the first 20 minutes of the third hour recapping the first two. Brand exclusivity won't change that part of it. Not to mention they'll still dedicate a half-hour of Smackdown to recapping Raw. That Raw recap on Smackdown has to ing go! I went to a SD taping in February, and I sat through like an hour of Raw recaps... There were maybe 4 or 5 matches the whole night. I not only felt ripped off, but swore it was my last SD how I would go to.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jun 3, 2013 22:46:02 GMT -5
I say they do a 15 min preshow and 15 min postshow. That takes the actual show down to 2.5 hours (which it really was before, counting the run-over time).
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Post by 5D's on Jun 3, 2013 22:58:28 GMT -5
Stick to 3 hours. What we really NEED, is to kill the supershows. If your exclusiv to Raw or Smackdown, then that's where you stay. Do a draft if you must, but bring back the brand exclusivness. Ok, Raw is still 3 hours. What do we do? Oh, Cruiserweight division? Push Tag Teams? Mid Card fueds without belts? I agree that this is what needs to happen first. The extra hour should go as well, but I'd rather sit through some recap if it means actually having a viable and varied mid/undercard. Also, anyone notice the "WE WANT 2 HOURS" sign tonight? When Stephanie and Vince were in the ring? Good work to whoever had it!
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 3, 2013 23:05:16 GMT -5
All we got was another our of "TWEET", "TOUT", "WWE APP" garbage....I didnt even watch raw tonight and honestly, I know I didnt miss anything of importance.
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Jun 3, 2013 23:20:44 GMT -5
am i the only person who prefers 3 hours?
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jun 3, 2013 23:24:18 GMT -5
All we got was another our of "TWEET", "TOUT", "WWE APP" garbage....I didnt even watch raw tonight and honestly, I know I didnt miss anything of importance. I understand they get paid for mentioning social media. Been in a time where social media controls all, there is no longer a point od mentioning it. Everyone knows it is there. We live in a age where 6 year olds have Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube accounts. We don't need 45 minutes of tv time devoted to be told about things we know of. Thats 2-3 matches we lose out on. We could have had Kaitlyn vs Aj, insuckadactyls vs Bellas, and Brodus/Tensia vs Epico/Primo instead! I understand its a buisness, which the goal is profit. I also understand its main viewership is by kids. BUT, its losing the Adult demographic due to crap like this. That same die hard devoted demographic that may leave, also buys merchandise and PPv's and cable to watch the shows... Thats money aswell! WWE needs to drop the "viewers are mindless" attitude, and give us a 5 minute Social Media spot out if the night, and get on with the show!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 23:53:45 GMT -5
I agree it should go back to two hours and make various changes. I remember trying to watch a Raw on YouTube from not to long ago and I couldn't watch it. It was difficult to watch.
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Post by Jaz on Jun 4, 2013 0:18:16 GMT -5
The show is three hours long, and they still can never end it on time.
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Post by Mofoin' Mizfit on Jun 4, 2013 0:29:33 GMT -5
I think Raw needs to stay at three hours, but only if the brand extension ends and the endless social media plugs do as well. If everyone was completely free to compete on Raw and Smackdown with minimal interruption, I think we could see some quality TV in nearly five hours of programming between the main two shows alone. Not to mention Main Event, Superstars, and all the other shows WWE produces. We could see entire belts and divisions re-introduced in this format too. More TV time for mid-carders, tag teams, storylines. It'd be great, at least I think.
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Post by IRS on Jun 4, 2013 1:24:08 GMT -5
I think Raw needs to stay at three hours, but only if the brand extension ends and the endless social media plugs do as well. If everyone was completely free to compete on Raw and Smackdown with minimal interruption, I think we could see some quality TV in nearly five hours of programming between the main two shows alone. Not to mention Main Event, Superstars, and all the other shows WWE produces. We could see entire belts and divisions re-introduced in this format too. More TV time for mid-carders, tag teams, storylines. It'd be great, at least I think. The brand extension is nonexistent, it essentially is done. Most guys already appear on both shows, except for one person. If the brand extension was enforced again like already suggested, it might help more, especially since we see the same 10-15 guys on both shows.
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Post by pacey on Jun 4, 2013 1:28:17 GMT -5
3 hour raw is great because it gives Daniel Bryan time for his matches. Punk, Jericho, Ziggler, & Shield all gettintime for their matches is a good thing. DVR makes raw much better being able to fast forward through Big E, Albert, Brodus, 3MB, HHH entrances, and Swagger is one of the best features ever. So overall I like the 3 hour raw.
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Post by JuiceWinslow on Jun 4, 2013 1:32:16 GMT -5
I see no problem with it being 3 hours.
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Post by JuiceWinslow on Jun 4, 2013 2:12:10 GMT -5
I see no problem with it being 3 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 3:00:36 GMT -5
am i the only person who prefers 3 hours? I like it too. Everyone focuses on the app stuff and recaps, but we got 9 matches tonight, several that were pretty friggin good. If it was two hours we never would have gotten a great 6 man tag and a great Bryan/Ryback match.
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