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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 13:45:49 GMT -5
Overall I enjoyed Mania. Taker vs Roman was terrible, but I expected it to be. Taker can't go anymore, and Roman can't carry a match. I don't know why they're so dead set on him being the top guy. Hardyz returning was so awesome, I've always been a huge fan. I would have had JR call Rollins vs Triple or Brock vs Goldberg. Brock and Goldberg had an awesome match, way better than expected. Triple H vs Rollins was MOTN for me though. Really? I thought HHH-Rollins was really weak. I guess that's the beauty of opinions.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Apr 3, 2017 13:46:29 GMT -5
What the hell did you guys watch last night? That was easily one of my favorite manias of all time. Most of you need to let go of the inner creative writer you strive to be and just enjoy a good show.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 13:48:21 GMT -5
Overall I enjoyed Mania. Taker vs Roman was terrible, but I expected it to be. Taker can't go anymore, and Roman can't carry a match. I don't know why they're so dead set on him being the top guy. Hardyz returning was so awesome, I've always been a huge fan. I would have had JR call Rollins vs Triple or Brock vs Goldberg. Brock and Goldberg had an awesome match, way better than expected. Triple H vs Rollins was MOTN for me though. Really? I thought HHH-Rollins was really weak. I guess that's the beauty of opinions. I would have liked it to be more of a street fight and less of a wrestling match, but I enjoyed it still.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Apr 3, 2017 14:00:04 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for many of you. Many of you act like the outcome of a wrestling PPV has just personally ruined your lives. It's quite sad and pathetic. I for one had a blast watching WM last night, instead of tearing apart and ranking every freaking match. Before you call me a noob, I have been watching since 1984 (!) and have seen it all (and yes wrestling has changed ALOT, some I like, some I don't, but can't some of you just try to enjoy yourselves?). If youre trying to be blissfully oblivious then internet forums arent the right place. We come here to share excitement AND concern. Pleasure and displeasure. Also telling fellow PRO wrestling fans theyre sad and pathetic on a site dedicted to pro wrestling is just as dumb
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Post by BCizzle on Apr 3, 2017 14:03:12 GMT -5
If you didn't enjoy it, that's your opinion and that's cool. But don't crap on those who did enjoy it. I enjoyed some of it, but there was too much suck for it to be considered good. Long boring matches aren't good for any wrestling shows. But it seems like we also have people in here who are crapping on those who didn't enjoy it. Enough with the crap!
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Post by tiny04 on Apr 3, 2017 14:17:39 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for many of you. Many of you act like the outcome of a wrestling PPV has just personally ruined your lives. It's quite sad and pathetic. I for one had a blast watching WM last night, instead of tearing apart and ranking every freaking match. Before you call me a noob, I have been watching since 1984 (!) and have seen it all (and yes wrestling has changed ALOT, some I like, some I don't, but can't some of you just try to enjoy yourselves?). If youre trying to be blissfully oblivious then internet forums arent the right place. We come here to share excitement AND concern. Pleasure and displeasure. Also telling fellow PRO wrestling fans theyre sad and pathetic on a site dedicted to pro wrestling is just as dumb Maybe "sad and pathetic" was a poor choice of words from him, but I agree with what he's trying to say here. Some people take this WAY too seriously. Its entertainment, not life or death. If people want to complain, complain away. I have no problem with people complaining about booking decisions, poor matches. I do it myself all the time. But there are certain individuals that go way above and beyond simply complaining. The results of Wrestlemania don't affect your life, but sometimes reading on here makes me question that for some.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Apr 3, 2017 14:22:59 GMT -5
Another thing that doesn't make sense is that this whole situation with Roman Reigns is just to set up a match where he takes the belt off of Brock. So now Reigns and Brock can both say they BOTH beat Undertaker at Wrestlemania and are the only two guys to ever do that, essentially putting them on the same level. Buuuuut WWE wanted us to believe that Roman Reigns was on Brock Lesnar's level 3 years ago when Reigns had not even ever accomplished anything....so was ending The Undertaker's career really necessary? Here's the thing about ending somebody's career. The guy who ends the career needs to be on the same level of respect as the guy who is having their career ended. When Shawn Michaels ended the career of Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels had 20 years to his name. Yeah, nobody wanted to see Ric Flair go, but at least nobody could argue that IF it was going to happen that HBK wasn't the man for the job. Shawn Michaels track record also was strong enough that nobody was going to give him any backlash over it. If somebody like Miz at the time,Jack Swagger or Vladimir Kozlov had retired Ric Flair, they would have been seen as unworthy of that feat and it would have been something they never would have been able to shake. Same thing when The Undertaker ended the career of Shawn Michaels. If somebody had to do it, Taker was the man for the job. Nobody was going to hold it against Taker and there was no backlash. Roman Reigns is not on the level of The Undertaker in the eyes of anyone other than Vince McMahon. If somebody was going to go out there last night, or ANY night, and pummel the Undertaker into retirement, that man had to be not only WORTHY of that HONOR, but also have a strong enough TRACK RECORD to endure that situation. Roman Reigns has NEITHER. The only man for the job was JOHN CENA. And the stupid part is, if Taker hadn't lost to Brock and Reigns, he could have retired last night 25-0 on a positive note. Brock didn't need the added bonus of breaking the streak to make him mauling John Cena seem believable. And beating Undertaker is going to do more harm than good to the long term development of Roman Reigns. Roman Reigns is now and forever going to be known as the guy who (kayfabe) retired the most respected wrestler in WWE history and the man who had been synonymous with WrestleMania. The only way last night would have made sense is if Roman Reigns had made a full heel turn. Bloodied Undertaker. They could have had the urn ring side and had him dump out the ashes on Taker and spit in the urn....any disrespectful, disgusting, violent and brutal act they could have thought of, THAT is what Roman Reigns should have done and it would have made him the biggest heel in the business. Instead, he's still the most hated man in the business, but WWE acts like he's a good guy. GO BUY THE T-SHIRT OF THE MAN THAT KILLED YOUR CHILDHOOD HERO!
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Post by TurboEddie on Apr 3, 2017 14:33:52 GMT -5
I really am getting sick and tired of being trolled every single time I'm watching this product now. You can't even use the excuse that Vince is just doing this because he knows the kids and women love Reigns.....he just let Roman Reigns retire one of the top 5 performers in the history of the business....whom 80% of the audience he's selling Reigns to have barely an idea of what he's done (Undertaker). And all this while continuing Roman's position as the Top "good guy" in the company. That was an absolute GIGANTIC " you" to every single person that is against this Reigns crap, who pays for the Network, who supports their other favorite wrestlers, who watches the weekly program, and who. They are continuing to just troll everyone at this point. And nothing is ever going to change. I don't even know what to do about this anymore. But I know that it's gone way past the point of humorous. I legitimately cannot stand Reigns anymore. They have absolutely turned my stomach on this guy. They have given him more in the last 3 years than almost anyone ever. They are forcing this guy into the biggest moments and the biggest situations completely going against the fans because they KNOW how pissed off they are. They really are just setting up Reigns to main event his 4th Wrestlemania and take the title from Brock cementing him as the single greatest wrestler in the history of the business, because THAT will make every fan love him. It's the worst thing this company has ever done. And they are close to turning a 30 year fan away from them. Because the way things are going I'm starting to lose interest faster and faster by the day. I can't even get excited for things like The Hardy's coming back, because I'm pretty sure at some point they are gonna turn them heel and just let Roman Reigns beat them both at the same time. I'm getting sick and tired of Roman ing Reigns getting everything. It's not entertaining, it's not interesting, and it's really getting played out at this point Don't watch then. Simple. It's not as easy as that. Especially when you've devoted 30 years of your life to it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 14:38:26 GMT -5
If youre trying to be blissfully oblivious then internet forums arent the right place. We come here to share excitement AND concern. Pleasure and displeasure. Also telling fellow PRO wrestling fans theyre sad and pathetic on a site dedicted to pro wrestling is just as dumb Maybe "sad and pathetic" was a poor choice of words from him, but I agree with what he's trying to say here. Some people take this WAY too seriously. Its entertainment, not life or death. If people want to complain, complain away. I have no problem with people complaining about booking decisions, poor matches. I do it myself all the time. But there are certain individuals that go way above and beyond simply complaining. The results of Wrestlemania don't affect your life, but sometimes reading on here makes me question that for some. Yeah, maybe sad and pathetic was harsh.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Apr 3, 2017 14:40:48 GMT -5
Don't watch then. Simple. It's not as easy as that. Especially when you've devoted 30 years of your life to it. If you're complaining about it as much as he is then yes, it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 14:45:14 GMT -5
It's not as easy as that. Especially when you've devoted 30 years of your life to it. If you're complaining about it as much as he is then yes, it is. Couldn't agree more
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Post by greenjack1992 on Apr 3, 2017 14:46:02 GMT -5
I'm not going to read any of the previous comments because I'm sure loads of you are being negative because you just can't help yourselves. All I want to say is this:
I really enjoyed WrestleMania 33, it was he first time my wife has watched it with me and she was hooked all the way through from beginning to end after being sucked into wrestling by the UK Championship Tournament. I loved sharing this with my wife.
I wasn't prepared for what happened with Undertaker after his match. I cried and cried and cried.
I don't care what anyone has to say about this Pay-Per-View, Undertaker's last ride makes this the most important night for a generation.
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Post by theafricandream on Apr 3, 2017 14:56:28 GMT -5
Triple H vs. Rollins was the clear cut match of the night for me. I thought the pacing, psychology, and finish was masterful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 14:57:54 GMT -5
Wasn't actually as bad as I thought it'd be.
I didn't watch every match, but:
AJ/Shane was fine. Goldberg/Lesnar was better than it had any right to be (MOTN by far). HHH/Rollins was dreadful. Pedigree city and another typical HHH match. Cena proposal was the cheesiest thing I'd ever seen. Taker/Reigns will always be bitter. Didn't help that Reigns botched the finish and the tombstone reversal spot.
More than anything I'm just pissed off Undertaker wasted some of his last few matches on HHH, Wyatt, Shane and Reigns.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Apr 3, 2017 14:59:20 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for many of you. Many of you act like the outcome of a wrestling PPV has just personally ruined your lives. It's quite sad and pathetic. I for one had a blast watching WM last night, instead of tearing apart and ranking every freaking match. Before you call me a noob, I have been watching since 1984 (!) and have seen it all (and yes wrestling has changed ALOT, some I like, some I don't, but can't some of you just try to enjoy yourselves?). Nah. This is a wrestling forum, pal.. people discuss wrestling here. Maybe you'd have a point if this was a gardening discussion board and we were crying about the wrestling PPV. But the best place to vent (be it positively or negatively) about wrestling is... a wrestling board.
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Post by DC:UK on Apr 3, 2017 15:37:52 GMT -5
Obviously I am biased as I was there, but it was easily in the top 5 Mania's of all time for me.
Shane and AJ was a great opening, HHH v Rollins was great, Goldberg and Lesnar did what it needed to do, Hardy's return was incredible, and I witnessed the Undertaker's last match in person (although I didn't appreciate the fact it was Reigns). The show felt rather rushed as it went on which is a shame, but other than Balor and Joe we got everyone that we could have possibly wanted to see, even if the match card was up for debate.
Plenty of intrigue going into Raw tonight, I am guessing we see Balor come out to challenge Brock but not sure what else to expect. Bring it on.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Apr 3, 2017 16:07:06 GMT -5
OK my main issue was Randy Orton winning the title and whoever made that decision should to be fired. Undertaker is gone and the WWE now need to start focusing on their future and I am sorry but sacrificing a young guy like Wyatt for Orton is beyond stupid.
Orton passed his prime years and has been dull ever since and ratings proved that he wasn't a drawing champion during his last reign so who benefits from this title win?
LOL he didn't even get a good reaction last night either.
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Post by Ember's Flame on Apr 3, 2017 16:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by J12 on Apr 3, 2017 16:40:09 GMT -5
I was at the show. I'm interested to see how watching it back changes or affirms my opinions.
I thought the first half was really outstanding. The crowd was on fire, the matches were good, the Hardy return was incredible.
The second half hit a pretty big lull for me, sometime after H/Rollins. Goldberg/Lesnar was good for what it was, and I liked what they did. Orton/Wyatt was absolutely terrible in person and I'm done giving Randy Orton a pass. The guy is a flat out chore to watch. The angle was horrible, the match was worse.
Taker/Reigns was a disaster in person. With no emotion coming from the commentators, it was just a tired crowd watching a guy who stayed around one year too long struggle to piece together a match against a guy who still very clearly needs the right opponent to have a good match. Reigns looked bad. Taker looked worse.
Taker's goodbye was surreal and moving, and I'm definitely happy I was there to witness it.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 3, 2017 16:40:45 GMT -5
Don't watch then. Simple. It's not as easy as that. Especially when you've devoted 30 years of your life to it. Ive devoted 17 years into watching, but there were times i stopped watching when i wasnt enjoying it. Example, after Fastlane, i stopped watching for a couple of weeks cause i did not want to frustrate myself. So yes, it is very easy to not watch despite being a long time wrestling fan. Its called self control and finding better things to waste 3 hours on. I feel some people here just like to complain about anything and everything when they could just not watch. Like, i dislike reality shows, but i dont complain about the Kardashians or Duck Dynasty and continue watching.
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