That 80s Guy
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Post by That 80s Guy on Apr 6, 2017 21:26:40 GMT -5
-- So on Sunday, we seen the ever prestigious IC strap, defended on the kick-off show, on the biggest day of the year.
Did anyone else feel irked by that...?
This is a title, imo, that has more of a pristine lineage than their own WWE World Championship. A who's who in the business, has been the Intercontinental champion (no need to run down the names we all know whom). And once upon a time, when the belt was first introduced, it was meant to be portrayed as a "silver medal" of sorts; declaring whomever is IC champion, has the right to be the #1 contender for the World title.
I honestly believe that it's possible to restore the "Integrity" of the IC title (say if Dean gets bumped over to RAW):
Angle can talk about the tradition behind the IC title (and it'll be believable coming from him, a former IC champ himself). And while in the ring, unveils the IC title on a green strap with silver plated plates (it's the same "classic style" plates, just now silverized like the Tag titles were "silverized"). Calls for Dean Ambrose to come to the ring and presents the new belt to him, then explains that with the new belt, comes a "Traditional Opportunity". (The IC title in the early 80s was also on a green strap + silver plated would be an appropriate change).
Traditional Opportunity; meaning, at ANY point during an IC Champion's reign, they can be approached and offered a chance to hand in their IC title in exchange for the opportunity to take on the Universal Champion. Kurt could say something like, "SDL and Shane and Daniel, aren't the only ones who can create 'opportunities' around here!"...something along those lines.
Just then and there while Dean holds the updated IC title, Kurt makes that offer to Dean right then and there on the spot, for that particular night's RAW. - Chances are Dean would do it, for a crack Lesnar's title. But regardless of the outcome, the Intercontinental title now has some new life stored into it (classic hybrid look, modern version of the traditional value of what the IC title represented). Part of this idea also stems from TNA's X-Division championship "Option: C" they used to hold at their "Destination X" PPVs, where the X-Division Champ had the choice to relinquish the title and face the World champ, or to continue the reign.
And whenever the title WOULD be relinquished, there could be a fatal 4-way on the following RAW with couple top stars & lower-tier stars. This could also create a storyline for Angle, being a babyface GM, giving those opps to other IC babyface champions, while the heel IC champions get disgruntled over it.
Thoughts?
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Post by Triple S on Apr 6, 2017 21:29:54 GMT -5
Option C was neat the first two times they did it, then it became stale.
Giving the title a new look and a gimmick isn't what it needs to be "more prestigious".
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Post by Mark Martin on Apr 6, 2017 21:34:49 GMT -5
The IC Title doesn't feel prestigious anymore, so I didn't care. Hell, none of the belts on the main roster feel prestigious anymore.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Apr 6, 2017 21:40:17 GMT -5
Well it wasn't even defended 6 years in a row from WrestleMania XIX to XXIV, and when it finally was at 25, the match was like 30 seconds long. So the title being defended on the pre-show doesn't bother me at all. I must say that Miz briefly brought back credibility to the belt as he would make it out to be even bigger than the WWE title, however since dropping the belt to Ambrose (someone who's never had an exciting title reign ever in WWE) would lose all that.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 6, 2017 21:42:40 GMT -5
Nah, i see no point in that idea, and also you'll get the 3 Impact Wrestling going Ugh, WWE steals another TNA idea. I agree the IC Title should have been on the main card, but so did the Cruiserweight Title. Only difference, the Cruiserweights did a great job to prove they should have at least opened the main show while Dean and Baron gave 10 mins of barely anything. All they gotta do to make the IC Title as a title people hunger for as much as the World Title. The Miz and Ziggler in their program did a great job making that title seem important. Ever since that, its been status quo once again
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Post by That 80s Guy on Apr 6, 2017 21:43:22 GMT -5
-- Triple S, that's like the 2nd idea of mine you've $#!t on today, with no constructive input. Criticism is fine, but dude, offer something better or could make it better.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Apr 6, 2017 21:45:47 GMT -5
Well it wasn't even defended 6 years in a row from WrestleMania XIX to XXIV, and when it finally was at 25, the match was like 30 seconds long. So the title being defended on the pre-show doesn't bother me at all. I must say that Miz briefly brought back credibility to the belt as he would make it out to be even bigger than the WWE title, however since dropping the belt to Ambrose (someone who's never had an exciting title reign ever in WWE) would lose all that. -- I took a 10yr break from watching WWE from 2005-2015, so wasn't aware of those WrestleMania's within that time. That's a shame, on their part and for the fans also.
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Post by mfunston20 on Apr 6, 2017 21:47:47 GMT -5
Nah, IMO, WWE just needs to be better with storylines and not rush into storylines because we have a PPV every 3 weeks. Tone down the PPVs and we can see better buildup for matches and titles meaning more IMO.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Apr 6, 2017 21:49:26 GMT -5
Nah, i see no point in that idea, and also you'll get the 3 Impact Wrestling going Ugh, WWE steals another TNA idea. I agree the IC Title should have been on the main card, but so did the Cruiserweight Title. Only difference, the Cruiserweights did a great job to prove they should have at least opened the main show while Dean and Baron gave 10 mins of barely anything. All they gotta do to make the IC Title as a title people hunger for as much as the World Title. The Miz and Ziggler in their program did a great job making that title seem important. Ever since that, its been status quo once again -- I absolutely agree, Miz & DZ tore it up and the strap meant something great again. But being as we're sort of in a "new season", it's just irritating that that particular belt is not really an after-thought, but not a priority either. Maybe making guys hunger for it, is the way to go.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Apr 6, 2017 21:52:36 GMT -5
Well it wasn't even defended 6 years in a row from WrestleMania XIX to XXIV, and when it finally was at 25, the match was like 30 seconds long. So the title being defended on the pre-show doesn't bother me at all. I must say that Miz briefly brought back credibility to the belt as he would make it out to be even bigger than the WWE title, however since dropping the belt to Ambrose (someone who's never had an exciting title reign ever in WWE) would lose all that. -- I took a 10yr break from watching WWE from 2005-2015, so wasn't aware of those WrestleMania's within that time. That's a shame, on their part and for the fans also. Meh, it wasn't that bad... WrestleMania's 19 & 20 were perfect the way they were. WrestleMania's 21 & 22 Shelton Benjamin went into Money in the Bank as IC champ. I can't remember who was the champ during WrestleMania 23 but Jericho went into Money in the Bank as champ at 24.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 21:53:11 GMT -5
Maybe if they stopped putting secondary titles on Dean who treats them like props and hardly defends them, then they might actually build prestige.
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Post by TheChamp420 on Apr 6, 2017 22:14:44 GMT -5
I feel more strongly that Ambrose wasn't on the main card
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Post by IRS on Apr 6, 2017 22:40:20 GMT -5
Maybe if they stopped putting secondary titles on Dean who treats them like props and hardly defends them, then they might actually build prestige. I wasn't aware that Ambrose booked his own title matches? And they say Cena has all the stroke!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 22:46:49 GMT -5
Maybe if they stopped putting secondary titles on Dean who treats them like props and hardly defends them, then they might actually build prestige. I wasn't aware that Ambrose booked his own title matches? And they say Cena has all the stroke! Obvious I know it's his booking. But every time he is booked with a secondary title he hardly ever defends the damn thing. Non booking wise, they guy usually just throws the damn belt about like a prop.
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Post by IRS on Apr 6, 2017 22:49:28 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that Ambrose booked his own title matches? And they say Cena has all the stroke! Obvious I know it's his booking. But every time he is booked with a secondary title he hardly ever defends the damn thing. Non booking wise, they guy usually just throws the damn belt about like a prop. Well, he is a lunatic. Lunatics like to throw things.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 6, 2017 23:57:40 GMT -5
The title doesn't need any TNA style gimmicks. It just needs to be used in stories that people care about, with characters that people care about. The Miz and Ziggler was a great example of it. Title lost momentum with Ambrose, his character as it is just isn't that well suited to making titles matter. Maybe with some tweaks, he will be. Or maybe Corbin will have a great reign.
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Post by FBtagteamsrule on Apr 7, 2017 0:28:57 GMT -5
Despite what WWE actually says, I saw it more that Smackdown is the B show. I-C title on the pre-show, Smackdown tag titles not defended, Smackdown having half the matches Raw had. And its been similar for all joint PPV's since the draft last year.
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Post by PJ on Apr 7, 2017 4:11:58 GMT -5
I personally say take the title off Ambrose if you want it to be prestigious. I know he is many people's golden boy, but I don't see it. The guy is horrible. He needs to work on his beatdowns so it doesn't look like he is beating up the air. Quit with the goofy expressions when he is overselling and for God sake stop using that slingshot clothesline. But back to WrestleMania...maybe it was the Florida heat from the outside venue but he looked like he was just going through the motions last Sunday. And that was something I never saw from him before. As much as despise his in ring work I will never say he didn't look like he was giving it all until that match.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Apr 7, 2017 5:07:56 GMT -5
I'm more upset that someone like Ambrose was on the pre show. FGS he is on the same level as KO, Rollins, Reigns etc and he deserved much better. He shouldn't even have the IC title either because he's beyond that title and should be in the main event.
Finally the only reason why the match was on the pre show was because people cried anout the SD women's title. A match that sucked so I hope everyone who cried was satisfied.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 7:40:22 GMT -5
I'm going to get hate for this - but Ambrose didn't deserve a spot on the main card after that clusterf**k of a match he had with Brock at 32. Plus, I wanted to see the SD Women's match more.
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