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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:55:11 GMT -5
Beat me to it.
You do without the figure or be patient and wait for the price to drop or a more affordable listing to show up. If everyone refuses to pay the sky high prices then the seller will be forced to lower them. As kennyw86v2 mentioned, a lot of people nowadays have no patience- they see something and immediately have to have it. As a fellow international collector I feel your pain but honestly if it wasn't for TRU (most of the figures I found at retail have been from here), I likely would not have started collecting at all or I would have stopped shortly after starting. Aside from the difficulty in finding stuff in stores, international collectors also have to contend with exchange rates, shipping and custom fees which IMO make things too expensive. When I first started collected I established a budget for myself ($30) and have stuck to it (except in one instance). I did this not only for financial reasons but also because I placed a value on these figures and decided that its not worth paying $50, $60 or $100 for a mass produced toy. At the end of the day, it all comes down to what you want- if these figs are that important to you and you can afford to pay the higher prices then all the power to you. For me, I stick to my budget and do without figures that are priced too high- I don't have E29 Andre & Legends Steamboat in my collection for that very reason, I couldn't find either at an affordable price. I picked up E60 Andre instead which serves as a substitute singlet Andre in my collection and was hoping to get Flashback Steamboat so I would have an elite Steamboat but now its all up in the air due to the Series 3 not being readily available.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jan 20, 2019 12:58:46 GMT -5
And you know, this whole thing might not be an issue, if we hadn’t been complaining about poor distribution for seven years. And then when Bill finally tried to help out nothing ended up changing. This was not a problem during the Jakks era. TRU, Target, and KB toys always had figures in stock. My Walmart was very hot or miss but the ofher stores made up for it. Then KB Toys went away and Target became unreliable, conveniently at the same time that Mattel took over. Looking back, I got most of my Jakks figures at KB, so maybe Jakks had just as bad distribution but KB was always ordering product. Regardless, this is a years long issue and I’m tired of dealing with it. On the flip side, I’ve never been able to find “new” series at retail. Even during the Jakks Era. I’ve always resorted to RSC and online retailers to get even the most recent figures. I also live right outside of Philadelphia, a hotbed for pro wrestling. So I’ve always assumed that’s why. It’s the same here in Gettysburg and we don’t have wrestling
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Post by Triple S on Jan 20, 2019 13:04:03 GMT -5
They really don’t, though. The overall sales do, but person A saying “I want more Flashbacks in the line” or “My local stores need to have more of this line” isn’t the priority. I feel you’ve never worked a day of retail or sales in your entire life. Either that, or have never been in a role where you’ve done ordering and have dealt with sales representatives/vendors in your job. Many factors go into product being scarce in specific areas that aren’t to be blamed on Mattel’s part. This forum is just full of people who are sometimes too demanding of perfection 24/7. kinda like how it's full of arrogant know-it-alls who really dont know as much as they think they do. Good thing for the "block member"option. It’s not anything about being a “know-it-all”. It’s experience of dealing with these things first hand. Understanding that the Legends/Flashbacks collectors are such a small percentage of Mattel’s market. Same way the Classics were a small percentage of Jakks’ market.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 13:10:26 GMT -5
Why are so many are selling off their collections- did they just collect to have something of perceived value that they could sell off at some point?! I collect for enjoyment, reliving some memories from my childhood and even though my collection is a bit larger then I originally intended it to be I still don't plan to ever sell it.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 20, 2019 13:13:30 GMT -5
Why are so many are selling off their collections- did they just collect to have something of perceived value that they could sell off at some point?! I collect for enjoyment, reliving some memories from my childhood and even though my collection is a bit larger then I originally intended it to be I still don't plan to ever sell it. This is puzzling as well. One poster here was complaining about how rereleases ruin collecting when they are beneficial to collectors and only hurt resellers.
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Post by powerfred3k on Jan 20, 2019 13:32:20 GMT -5
All I and others want is a fighting chance when we walk into store "xyz" that we can buy new wwe figures we like. Exclusives where "suppose" to do that but overall that strategy failed because product is still not getting to the stores. For every one store in that gets all the latest and greatest stuff first, there are much more that don't. This flashback Harley Race cluster easily shines a light on what's going on. Since he was shortpacked 1 per case you can easily guesstimate out how many cases went out. Maybe 100-200, the higher number being the best case scenario. If whoever is in charge of the wwe mattel line would own up to this bullcrap and re-release Harley Race as a regular elite that can be ordered anywhere I would be much more forgiving. But it's 2019 now Mattel not 1985, if they as a company want to survive this crap needs to end. No more exclusives, no Chase figures, none of this crap. If I can't find figure "x" in a set that was recently stocked in a retail store I am at and still want to buy it. How awesome would it be if I could order it online at the same retail price plus shipping via walmart, amazon, target, etc. I know right it's just a crazy pipe dream for things to be easier instead of worse. It might also entice people to buy more wwe figures if it's easier to find what you want.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jan 20, 2019 13:49:51 GMT -5
All I and others want is a fighting chance when we walk into store "xyz" that we can buy new wwe figures we like. Exclusives where "suppose" to do that but overall that strategy failed because product is still not getting to the stores. For every one store in that gets all the latest and greatest stuff first, there are much more that don't. This flashback Harley Race cluster easily shines a light on what's going on. Since he was shortpacked 1 per case you can easily guesstimate out how many cases went out. Maybe 100-200, the higher number being the best case scenario. If whoever is in charge of the wwe mattel line would own up to this bullcrap and re-release Harley Race as a regular elite that can be ordered anywhere I would be much more forgiving. But it's 2019 now Mattel not 1985, if they as a company want to survive this crap needs to end. No more exclusives, no Chase figures, none of this crap. If I can't find figure "x" in a set that was recently stocked in a retail store I am at and still want to buy it. How awesome would it be if I could order it online at the same retail price plus shipping via walmart, amazon, target, etc. I know right it's just a crazy pipe dream for things to be easier instead of worse. It might also entice people to buy more wwe figures if it's easier to find what you want. This is my thought exactly. I've only been back into buying currently made figures when the retros came out, first time I've bought anything new since the 90's. It just seems completely ass-backwards the way this operates. Seeing as it's 2019 and you can buy pretty much anything online at retail prices. Why can't you buy figures??? People are so busy these days, there's not time to run around to a dozen stores a week to find this stuff. Why can't we buy online at retail price from Target, Walmart, or just Mattel direct? But, I guess that's just a crazy thought, right? We have money and want product, make that product easy and simple to obtain. Makes sense right?
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Post by Triple S on Jan 20, 2019 13:54:10 GMT -5
All I and others want is a fighting chance when we walk into store "xyz" that we can buy new wwe figures we like. Exclusives where "suppose" to do that but overall that strategy failed because product is still not getting to the stores. For every one store in that gets all the latest and greatest stuff first, there are much more that don't. This flashback Harley Race cluster easily shines a light on what's going on. Since he was shortpacked 1 per case you can easily guesstimate out how many cases went out. Maybe 100-200, the higher number being the best case scenario. If whoever is in charge of the wwe mattel line would own up to this bullcrap and re-release Harley Race as a regular elite that can be ordered anywhere I would be much more forgiving. But it's 2019 now Mattel not 1985, if they as a company want to survive this crap needs to end. No more exclusives, no Chase figures, none of this crap. If I can't find figure "x" in a set that was recently stocked in a retail store I am at and still want to buy it. How awesome would it be if I could order it online at the same retail price plus shipping via walmart, amazon, target, etc. I know right it's just a crazy pipe dream for things to be easier instead of worse. It might also entice people to buy more wwe figures if it's easier to find what you want. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You sound like a whiny child, man. “It’s not fair, I should be able to get whatever I want”. Sorry you won’t be the first to obtain a certain figure. You want it bad enough, pay the secondary market prices. Ever think that these store exclusives come with contracts that the store signs, which guarantees Mattel a certain amount of money upfront? No matter how many are sold. It’s obvious that these exclusives are to drive sales and business into these chains.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 20, 2019 14:00:34 GMT -5
kinda like how it's full of arrogant know-it-alls who really dont know as much as they think they do. Good thing for the "block member"option. It’s not anything about being a “know-it-all”. It’s experience of dealing with these things first hand. Understanding that the Legends/Flashbacks collectors are such a small percentage of Mattel’s market. Same way the Classics were a small percentage of Jakks’ market. Ill agree with you that Flashbacks collectors are a small % for Mattel but I really feel like they were much larger during the Classic days. I tend to remember Jeremy on his site saying the Classic line was the bread & butter for JAKKS but I could be wrong. Regardless, with the exception of the latest Flashback Walmart series, I dont understand why people cant find the figures they need? Who is it that people are having a hard time finding? This board has 11k members and you cant find 1 person to help you out if you live in a hole in the wall town or overseas? You gotta be a real Mcbunghole if out of 11k people nobody will help you out lol
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Post by LA Times on Jan 20, 2019 14:04:32 GMT -5
All I and others want is a fighting chance when we walk into store "xyz" that we can buy new wwe figures we like. Exclusives where "suppose" to do that but overall that strategy failed because product is still not getting to the stores. For every one store in that gets all the latest and greatest stuff first, there are much more that don't. This flashback Harley Race cluster easily shines a light on what's going on. Since he was shortpacked 1 per case you can easily guesstimate out how many cases went out. Maybe 100-200, the higher number being the best case scenario. If whoever is in charge of the wwe mattel line would own up to this bullcrap and re-release Harley Race as a regular elite that can be ordered anywhere I would be much more forgiving. But it's 2019 now Mattel not 1985, if they as a company want to survive this crap needs to end. No more exclusives, no Chase figures, none of this crap. If I can't find figure "x" in a set that was recently stocked in a retail store I am at and still want to buy it. How awesome would it be if I could order it online at the same retail price plus shipping via walmart, amazon, target, etc.
I know right it's just a crazy pipe dream for things to be easier instead of worse. It might also entice people to buy more wwe figures if it's easier to find what you want. You can. It just sold out quick www.walmart.com/ip/WWE-Flashback-Series-King-Harley-Race-Elite-Collection-Action-Figure/251264387
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Post by Triple S on Jan 20, 2019 14:05:24 GMT -5
It’s not anything about being a “know-it-all”. It’s experience of dealing with these things first hand. Understanding that the Legends/Flashbacks collectors are such a small percentage of Mattel’s market. Same way the Classics were a small percentage of Jakks’ market. Ill agree with you that Flashbacks collectors are a small % for Mattel but I really feel like they were much larger during the Classic days. I tend to remember Jeremy on his site saying the Classic line was the bread & butter for JAKKS but I could be wrong. Regardless, with the exception of the latest Flashback Walmart series, I dont understand why people cant find the figures they need? Who is it that people are having a hard time finding? This board has 11k members and you cant find 1 person to help you out if you live in a hole in the wall town or overseas? You gotta be a real Mcbunghole if out of 11k people nobody will help you out lol That’s the thing with society now, not patience whatsoever. Some guy from California posts on Instagram that he found a new figure and everyone gets bent out of shape when their local store doesn’t have it a week later. Do I want every figure possible for my collection? Yes. Am I going to spend more than I’d like to because I skipped on them for so many years and have to resort to re-sellers? Yup. Is there going to be figures I just don’t end up getting because I can’t justify spending $60+ for a single action figure? Of course. Not gonna sit here and bitch about how it’s not fair or anything though.
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jan 20, 2019 14:39:25 GMT -5
Interesting read for sure. I have bought every flashback from the golden years that I could. I'm still hoping for more, but it seems they've slowed on making them. And furthermore made them very difficult to find. Distribution has been a disaster. Plain and simple. The Harley issue really pissed me off. Backlund and Sherri are two of the top figs I've wanted, but again will be really tough to find. The retros saved me from being done for good, but they managed to screw that up as well. It's shocking to see how poor of a job they have done in making these available to people. Just get Diesel in stores before you finish running the line into the ground.
I've been into wrestling figures for 30 years and have never been this frustrated.
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Post by powerfred3k on Jan 20, 2019 14:40:14 GMT -5
It's not about being a "whiny child" or having "no patience" dude.
It's being a wrestling fan and the company that makes wrestling figures for wwe is failing us. I actually thought things where turning around when the flashback series 2 sets started popping up. Then this flashback series 3 crap happened.
Then when I saw and ordered the bob backlund off of wweshop I was again hopeful that maybe mattel was turning the situation around and trying to do better. Nope it was a "mistake" they made.
Meanwhile I can easily say it's still much easier to buy figures that neca and hasbro make and sell at the same retail stores.
So yes collecting mattel wwe figures is becoming too hard and these Chase figures are going to be impossible to find because they are clear scalper bait.
I have absolutely no confidence in mattel anymore and they need to go.
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Post by Triple S on Jan 20, 2019 14:57:11 GMT -5
Good. Stop collecting, if it’s so unbearable.
I’ll continue waiting to obtain the figures that I want at a reasonable price.
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Post by powerfred3k on Jan 20, 2019 15:07:03 GMT -5
Good. Stop collecting, if it’s so unbearable. I’ll continue waiting to obtain the figures that I want at a reasonable price. See again you misunderstand, I'm not a mattel fan. I am a wrestling fan, I was a fan before mattel got the license and will be after they eventually lose the license.
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Post by Gorilla on Jan 20, 2019 15:34:56 GMT -5
Good. Stop collecting, if it’s so unbearable. I’ll continue waiting to obtain the figures that I want at a reasonable price. You're unbearable. I can't believe your attitude.
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Post by Triple S on Jan 20, 2019 16:31:47 GMT -5
Good. Stop collecting, if it’s so unbearable. I’ll continue waiting to obtain the figures that I want at a reasonable price. You're unbearable. I can't believe your attitude. And I cant believe grown men come on these forums to complain about action figures on a daily basis. Then complain even more that the Mattel employees don’t actively post here and give the answers to the questions asked. Are Marvel Legends and Star Wars Black collector’s this pathetic... or just WWE Flashback/Legend collectors?
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Post by suddenlyrichie on Jan 20, 2019 17:28:18 GMT -5
Man, this place can be a lot of fun, but childish bickering like this on both sides of the arguement has turned me off to really spending a lot of time on here.
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Post by Chicago on Jan 20, 2019 17:33:10 GMT -5
Man, this place can be a lot of fun, but childish bickering like this on both sides of the arguement has turned me off to really spending a lot of time on here. Come with me if you want to live.
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