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Post by poindizzle on Dec 6, 2020 13:00:38 GMT -5
I don't find the articulation to be all that jarring at all. I hope Mattel can go pinless like the other companies are starting to, otherwise they look fine. Actually, with the new butterfly joints on Hogan I hope regular elites can eventually have rocker torsos, double elbows, and butterfly shoulders.
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Post by TheLastDude on Dec 6, 2020 15:32:45 GMT -5
Some of ya'll can get really pissy about a differing opinion. Awesome "community." We are a group of people "living" on the same message board, and we (ostensibly) all enjoy wrestling and/or toys. Seems like a community to me. I didn't see where it said we all had to feel the same way about everything every time though.
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Post by ilikekqueen on Dec 6, 2020 15:48:20 GMT -5
I agree, Mattel is years behind Hasbro in the mold department. I don’t collect figures other than WWE & AEW. What’s so special about Hasbro??
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Dec 6, 2020 17:04:29 GMT -5
Don't buy it. Wait for the basic, or even better, maybe Eaglemoss will put out an Otis.
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Post by crashholly2002 on Dec 6, 2020 22:43:45 GMT -5
Don't buy it. Wait for the basic, or even better, maybe Eaglemoss will put out an Otis. or better yet, make one out of twigs, rocks, and modelling clay; that way it would get rid of the abhorrent articulation
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Post by The Madness on Dec 6, 2020 23:23:53 GMT -5
You can never have too much articulation.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Dec 6, 2020 23:32:54 GMT -5
These pretzels are making me thirsty.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Dec 6, 2020 23:33:23 GMT -5
You still have time to delete this
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Post by shanieomaniac on Dec 7, 2020 7:42:17 GMT -5
I'd like to thank the people in this thread for giving me a good laugh on this fine Monday Morning.
That said, while you are absolutely barking up the wrong tree complaining about articulation on action figures, articulation has never been the be all, end all for me. This is why I have no problem buying basics and I'm still fighting a never ending battle with a deep need to start an eaglemoss collection. If the figure stands up and looks good on a shelf, I'm happy.
Of course, as a customizer, I loath pinless joints and parts you can't swap out. But that's an artistic issue, not a problem with the look of the figure.
But yeah. There's no point in complaining about the articulation. They're action figures. Emphasis on the "Action". If you want smoothly molded statues, I recommend basics or, perhaps, Eaglemoss.
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Post by PJ on Dec 7, 2020 8:17:47 GMT -5
I am not a fan of the pinless joints especially on wrestling figures. Because on order to swap parts you have to split the thighs, upper arms or lower legs to swap parts. Give me visible pins because the knee and elbow pads cover them anyway.
Mattel used the hidden pins on their last waves of DCUC and while they looked nice I had a Batman Beyond that the knee wasn’t fastened correctly so Instead of just needing to push the knee pin in more I had to pop the leg off the hip. Then split the thigh. Put the knee onto the post and glue the thigh back together. So that was a pain in the @$$.
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Post by DudeAbides on Dec 7, 2020 11:10:23 GMT -5
I really don't understand the complaints about articulation on elites. Its what we all wished we had on our figures as kids so they could actually do any moves at all besides a dropkick. The ab crunch on elites has literally been there since the beginning, and I for one love the ultimate style torso with the ability to rock the torso on an angle, it really enhances the poseability far beyond having just the crunch.
If you don't and have never liked that, then why are you here talking about elites? Its been a decade. Buy basics. Buy statues. Cut out pictures and glue them to cardboard.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Dec 7, 2020 12:44:40 GMT -5
I really don't understand the complaints about articulation on elites. Its what we all wished we had on our figures as kids so they could actually do any moves at all besides a dropkick. The ab crunch on elites has literally been there since the beginning, and I for one love the ultimate style torso with the ability to rock the torso on an angle, it really enhances the poseability far beyond having just the crunch. If you don't and have never liked that, then why are you here talking about elites? Its been a decade. Buy basics. Buy statues. Cut out pictures and glue them to cardboard. "Articulation like we wished we had as kids"... that might actually be relevant, if we were still kids... The point is, most of us here are not buying these as kids - rather as adult collectors. I stopped actively playing with figures/toys in general when I was a child... now as an adult, who mainly collects MOC, aesthetic is everything - and articulation means all to me. That's why I say JAKKS Unmatched Fury was the best line ever created. I agree. I know articulation is king around here, but excessive articulation joints ruin the look of a figure - that's just a fact. That ugly ab crunch spoils the aesthetic of every elite. Take both elite Blacks for example... the tattoo in the centre of his chest has to be smaller than it should, because the stupid ab joint interferes with its placement... Whereas on the basic, it is the correct size, as there is no joint there to hinder it. On the elite Punks, the 'straight edge' tattoo was always lower down and smaller, compared to the basic versions - again due to the ab crunch. A small price for figures that can actually be played with and posed properly I'm an adult, who keeps these in package... I haven't got the slightest interest in playing with figures - like I said, I grew out of that when I was still a child.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Dec 7, 2020 12:56:16 GMT -5
I really don't understand the complaints about articulation on elites. Its what we all wished we had on our figures as kids so they could actually do any moves at all besides a dropkick. The ab crunch on elites has literally been there since the beginning, and I for one love the ultimate style torso with the ability to rock the torso on an angle, it really enhances the poseability far beyond having just the crunch. If you don't and have never liked that, then why are you here talking about elites? Its been a decade. Buy basics. Buy statues. Cut out pictures and glue them to cardboard. "Articulation like we wished we had as kids"... that would hold true, if we were still kids... but the point is, most of us here are not buying these as kids - rather as adult collectors. I stopped actively playing with figures/toys in general when I was a child... now as an adult, who mainly collects MOC, aesthetic is everything - and articulation means all to me. That's why I say JAKKS Unmatched Fury was the best line ever created. Haha toy articulation go brrr
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Post by TheChamp420 on Dec 7, 2020 13:39:25 GMT -5
I’m cool with the way they are
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Post by DudeAbides on Dec 7, 2020 14:01:29 GMT -5
I really don't understand the complaints about articulation on elites. Its what we all wished we had on our figures as kids so they could actually do any moves at all besides a dropkick. The ab crunch on elites has literally been there since the beginning, and I for one love the ultimate style torso with the ability to rock the torso on an angle, it really enhances the poseability far beyond having just the crunch. If you don't and have never liked that, then why are you here talking about elites? Its been a decade. Buy basics. Buy statues. Cut out pictures and glue them to cardboard. "Articulation like we wished we had as kids"... that might actually be relevant, if we were still kids... The point is, most of us here are not buying these as kids - rather as adult collectors. I stopped actively playing with figures/toys in general when I was a child... now as an adult, who mainly collects MOC, aesthetic is everything - and articulation means all to me. That's why I say JAKKS Unmatched Fury was the best line ever created. A small price for figures that can actually be played with and posed properly I'm an adult, who keeps these in package... I haven't got the slightest interest in playing with figures - like I said, I grew out of that when I was still a child. No, thats not the point. I'm also an adult, and I enjoy setting up dios and scenes representing my favorite moments in figure form on my shelves. Articulation is a huge part of that in making the pose look realistic. Everyone who does figure photography, its a huge part of that. Anyone who does buy them for their kids to play with its a part of that too. It's sad that as an "adult" you only see things how you want them and assume you're the majority, and who cares about anyone else. You should know that this board is largely split between people who collect MOC and people who collect loose. And just because you're a big grown up and "stopped playing with figures when you were a child" that doesn't mean that's how everyone else collects. There are many great statues made by other companies. Elites have been this way since the beginning. Complaining about their articulation is like walking into Target and being super mad that everything is red.
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Post by crush on Dec 7, 2020 14:41:55 GMT -5
I really don't understand the complaints about articulation on elites. Its what we all wished we had on our figures as kids so they could actually do any moves at all besides a dropkick. The ab crunch on elites has literally been there since the beginning, and I for one love the ultimate style torso with the ability to rock the torso on an angle, it really enhances the poseability far beyond having just the crunch. If you don't and have never liked that, then why are you here talking about elites? Its been a decade. Buy basics. Buy statues. Cut out pictures and glue them to cardboard. "Articulation like we wished we had as kids"... that might actually be relevant, if we were still kids... The point is, most of us here are not buying these as kids - rather as adult collectors. I stopped actively playing with figures/toys in general when I was a child... now as an adult, who mainly collects MOC, aesthetic is everything - and articulation means all to me. That's why I say JAKKS Unmatched Fury was the best line ever created. A small price for figures that can actually be played with and posed properly I'm an adult, who keeps these in package... I haven't got the slightest interest in playing with figures - like I said, I grew out of that when I was still a child. I realize this can be a cliche line around there, but you do realize these are on the whole a toy line for children right? Like we can discuss Mattel reaching out to adult collectors, having certain figures that are more targets to their interests or etc., but at the end of the day Mattel are making WWE toy who mainly exist to be played with and desired by children, whose parents in turn spend money on them.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Dec 7, 2020 15:06:22 GMT -5
Yeah, but the people in this thread, crucifying the OP, for daring to voice his displeasure over articulation joints, are not children, they're full-grown, adults.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Dec 7, 2020 15:25:26 GMT -5
Yeah, but the people in this thread, crucifying the OP, for daring to voice his displeasure over articulation joints, are not children, they're full-grown, adults. Some opinions are just wrong, pal
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Post by DudeAbides on Dec 7, 2020 16:12:32 GMT -5
Yeah, but the people in this thread, crucifying the OP, for daring to voice his displeasure over articulation joints, are not children, they're full-grown, adults. Coming onto this board and hardcore complaining about the main product we all purchase and enjoy that's been largely the same since day 1, that's not daring. It's daring to not expect blowback from such complaints. At least the OP asked for a middle ground, and I would be all for improving the look of the articulation and making joints more seamless (I think NECA does a good job of this) just as long as we don't lose any movement. You, however, seemed to just want to say all articulation make the elites statues like Unmatched Fury. Perhaps you would be happier collecting something else.
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Post by CM Poor on Dec 7, 2020 16:18:07 GMT -5
There's always that one guy who tries to posture his maturity by talking about how he's a collector and hasn't felt compelled to play with his toys since he was a child. Even Billy Graham is marked "8+" and is going to be found in the...*gasp*... toy department.
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