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Post by CampCornette on Feb 17, 2021 14:54:33 GMT -5
Hey for all the scalper apologists, I have a question. If it’s fine and not hurting anyone or against society norm why are major retailers implementing buying limits on products and why did ebay and Amazon ban people from price gouging cleaning products and sanitizers during early covid?
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Post by CampCornette on Feb 17, 2021 14:55:41 GMT -5
Anyone defending someone for purchasing a large stock of a product to resell it for minimal profit just to ruin something for someone else isn’t worth arguing with. How would a rational person react to someone going into the supermarket, buying all the cheese and then attempting to resell it for .35 cents more. Most if not all people would mock and ridicule that so my assumption is the people who say “derp it’s just toys” or “wow can’t believe people get so mad” on a toy forum, are scalpers themselves or their mommies didn’t pay enough attention to them growing up i’m not sure if you’re implying that i was defending scalpers, but you might want to read a little more carefully. No I wasn’t at anyone in particular, just in general. Not harm meant directly
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Feb 17, 2021 14:56:29 GMT -5
i’m not sure if you’re implying that i was defending scalpers, but you might want to read a little more carefully. No I wasn’t at anyone in particular, just in general. Not harm meant directly fair enough
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 17, 2021 14:57:25 GMT -5
Nothing is real boomer. If you can afford what you need doing what you do and it doesn’t actually hurt anyone else, then do it. Selling toys higher than you bought them doesn’t ruin anyone’s life. Calling a 37 year old boomer is possibly the lamest thing I can think of. Does it make you feel like a rebel? Keeping digging in the trash while I work my “real” fake job I call people younger than me boomer and I kinda get offended if they don't do it back.
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Post by CampCornette on Feb 17, 2021 14:57:43 GMT -5
Yes it’s just toys but it’s unnecessary and not in any way profitable or productive so why punish fellow collectors is my point
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Post by CM Tusk on Feb 17, 2021 14:58:02 GMT -5
Nothing is real boomer. If you can afford what you need doing what you do and it doesn’t actually hurt anyone else, then do it. Selling toys higher than you bought them doesn’t ruin anyone’s life. Calling a 37 year old boomer is possibly the lamest thing I can think of. Does it make you feel like a rebel? Keeping digging in the trash while I work my “real” fake job I mean, I make 50k a year “digging in the trash” but yeah you enjoy that. For a 37 year old you’re sure getting bent out of shape about people reselling toys there bud.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 17, 2021 14:59:30 GMT -5
Hey for all the scalper apologists, I have a question. If it’s fine and not hurting anyone or against society norm why are major retailers implementing buying limits on products and why did ebay and Amazon ban people from price gouging cleaning products and sanitizers during early covid? Cleaning products and sanitizers aren't even apples and oranges in the discussion of collectibles. They may as well be Oreo cookies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 15:00:01 GMT -5
I'm very hard pressed right now to think of a hobby where some type of secondary market/scalping/artificial scarcity doesn't exist. I'm sure they must exist, but I can't think of them. I feel like board games are a little better when it comes to scalping, as in, someone buying up stock and forcing people to the secondary market. A lot of the hot items are produced via Kickstarter, so pre-ordering extra copies doesn't take away from anyone, it just leads to more being produced. That being said, those extra copies still go right to eBay, where folks who missed the month-long pre-order window have to pay double for the item. But it feels less scummy, somehow. Slightly. Yeah I'm really into board games too, and you're right. It does feel a bit better. It's not so much scalping there as just being the equivalent of a retail store. I never got into Gloomhaven, but when it was first really hot there wasn't a copy to be found at retail that wasn't spoken for, and the waiting list queue was huge. They could've ordeded more initially, but didn't. So fair play to the ones that invested in more copies to sell. They would have been stuck if the game had been a bust. Similar story with Scythe, which I'm still a big fan of.
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 17, 2021 15:03:00 GMT -5
I feel like board games are a little better when it comes to scalping, as in, someone buying up stock and forcing people to the secondary market. A lot of the hot items are produced via Kickstarter, so pre-ordering extra copies doesn't take away from anyone, it just leads to more being produced. That being said, those extra copies still go right to eBay, where folks who missed the month-long pre-order window have to pay double for the item. But it feels less scummy, somehow. Slightly. Yeah I'm really into board games too, and you're right. It does feel a bit better. It's not so much scalping there as just being the equivalent of a retail store. I never got into Gloomhaven, but when it was first really hot there wasn't a copy to be found at retail that wasn't spoken for, and the waiting list queue was huge. They could've ordeded more initially, but didn't. So fair play to the ones that invested in more copies to sell. They would have been stuck if the game had been a bust. Similar story with Scythe, which I'm still a big fan of. I'm not a big board gamer, but my basically-brother-in-law is, and in looking at games he's into, I've always wondered whether that was just retail or I was getting taken for a ride in terms of price.
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Post by CampCornette on Feb 17, 2021 15:05:00 GMT -5
Calling a 37 year old boomer is possibly the lamest thing I can think of. Does it make you feel like a rebel? Keeping digging in the trash while I work my “real” fake job I mean, I make 50k a year “digging in the trash” but yeah you enjoy that. For a 37 year old you’re sure getting bent out of shape about people reselling toys there bud. It’s not even about toys or bent out of shape, I just personally find it hard to condone what I consider unnecessary behavior. In essence stores are middle men who jack up prices to consumer but they have employees and overheard. A person waiting outside a store to buy all of something to make $5-10 on it is lame imo. We are having a conversation that’s all. Everyone can have whatever opinion they want
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Feb 17, 2021 15:06:41 GMT -5
Hey for all the scalper apologists, I have a question. If it’s fine and not hurting anyone or against society norm why are major retailers implementing buying limits on products and why did ebay and Amazon ban people from price gouging cleaning products and sanitizers during early covid? Cleaning products and sanitizers aren't even apples and oranges in the discussion of collectibles. They may as well be Oreo cookies. in his defense, some retail stores have put limits on collectors items. but i do believe that’s more because of the card/hot wheels scalpers that are(from what i’ve read, haven’t actually experienced them) complete trash human beings. i feel like it’s only fairly recently(in the grand scheme) that action figure scalpers have gotten to those levels of bad. but yea, still not comparable to the people hoarding things like masks, hand sanitizer, toilet paper, etc
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Post by PJ on Feb 17, 2021 15:08:50 GMT -5
You want scalping to stop then people need to stop paying the scalpers while making excuses for why they buy from the scalpers. If nobody buys from them then they’ll stop doing it. If it’s something I want bad enough I preorder it. Anything else I will get from Amazon, find locally or have a friend help out. If finding it on Amazon or locally fails then it wasn’t something I need or I would have preordered it. I don’t buy anything on eBay or the secondary market.
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Post by CampCornette on Feb 17, 2021 15:09:25 GMT -5
Cleaning products and sanitizers aren't even apples and oranges in the discussion of collectibles. They may as well be Oreo cookies. in his defense, some retail stores have put limits on collectors items. but i do believe that’s more because of the card/hot wheels scalpers that are(from what i’ve read, haven’t actually experienced them) complete trash human beings. i feel like it’s only fairly recently(in the grand scheme) that action figure scalpers have gotten to those levels of bad. but yea, still not comparable to the people hoarding things like masks, hand sanitizer, toilet paper, etc You guys are right in theory but the point is it’s people doing other people a disservice with little to no real monetary gain
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 17, 2021 15:11:20 GMT -5
Cleaning products and sanitizers aren't even apples and oranges in the discussion of collectibles. They may as well be Oreo cookies. in his defense, some retail stores have put limits on collectors items. but i do believe that’s more because of the card/hot wheels scalpers that are(from what i’ve read, haven’t actually experienced them) complete trash human beings. i feel like it’s only fairly recently(in the grand scheme) that action figure scalpers have gotten to those levels of bad. but yea, still not comparable to the people hoarding things like masks, hand sanitizer, toilet paper, etc Yeah, retailers have been buy-limiting things since forever. It's a complete act of self-preservation on their part, whether it's the toaster oven on sale for $7.99 on Black Friday, the latest video game console produced in short numbers, or the latest Cody Rhodes figure being peddled by Jazwares. If a buy-limit is in place, they have a crutch to lean on whenever anyone tries to lodge a complaint in regard to product availability. I doubt it was the implication, but Target, Wal-Mart, or any other big-box, brick & mortar, retail chain doesn't give a funny f*ck what people are doing with these things once the payment has cleared and its walked out their door.
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Post by kiloinnorcal on Feb 17, 2021 15:13:29 GMT -5
In my experience, if you're defending scalper tactics, then most likely you're a scalper as well.
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Post by CampCornette on Feb 17, 2021 15:18:30 GMT -5
In my experience, if you're defending scalper tactics, then most likely you're a scalper as well. It’s hard to argue this, on a toy forum, full of toy collectors, all of which have trouble getting product, when someone complains about people scalping I would assume the overwhelming response would be agreement and not “pay extra baby crying about toys”
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Feb 17, 2021 15:18:37 GMT -5
Man you should really chill. Those prices mean the seller is making a whopping $10 - $12 on that figure after the fees and shipping costs. You act as though u are being upcharged hundreds when ur losing your mind over $10 How pathetic. Maybe do something useful with their time? I refuse to give them any extra money for being useless globs of cells who flip action figures because they’re too dumb to be useful members in society.Theyre hustling and making money while you are mad at how and why they do it....while calling them dumb its called playing the game and winning See opportunity, take opportunity 100% legal money. You're stupid if you wouldn't do it.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Feb 17, 2021 15:20:15 GMT -5
In my experience, if you're defending scalper tactics, then most likely you're a scalper as well. out of curiosity, where is the line for you? obviously there’s scalpers out there that buy up all of a stock to resell. but at the same time, there’s also people out there that will resell just to help get it into someone else’s hands
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Post by CM Poor on Feb 17, 2021 15:20:53 GMT -5
in his defense, some retail stores have put limits on collectors items. but i do believe that’s more because of the card/hot wheels scalpers that are(from what i’ve read, haven’t actually experienced them) complete trash human beings. i feel like it’s only fairly recently(in the grand scheme) that action figure scalpers have gotten to those levels of bad. but yea, still not comparable to the people hoarding things like masks, hand sanitizer, toilet paper, etc You guys are right in theory but the point is it’s people doing other people a disservice with little to no real monetary gain I guess if you buy into the "collectors are a community, all for one and one for all" mantra, that could be perceived as a bad thing. I don't. I don't go out of my way to find things to flip, but if something happens across my path and the opportunity is there to pocket a bit of side profit, sure, why not? I'll break out the torches and try and drive out the folks that'll accost you in a store and track your movements because you got to something they wanted first or swap figures out to try and get a quick freebie, but I'm not gonna look at someone sideways for seizing the opportunity to do what they want with something they purchased legally.
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Post by airbud on Feb 17, 2021 15:36:47 GMT -5
How pathetic. Maybe do something useful with their time? I refuse to give them any extra money for being useless globs of cells who flip action figures because they’re too dumb to be useful members in society.Theyre hustling and making money while you are mad at how and why they do it.... its called playing the game and winning. Buying up collectibles or concert tickets to scalp is not “winning” in my mind. It’s parasitical. They are like human mosquitoes and they’re annoying everyone else doing their “hustle.” But whatever, it’s not illegal, and if it’s all people with IQ’s below freezing can do in a society; it is what it is.
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