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Post by The American Daydream on Sept 19, 2023 9:23:35 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to win the WHC while Rock dethrones Roman 😆 That isn't happening. I hope to add this to my sig with the others but only time will tell ig
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Post by shanieomaniac on Sept 19, 2023 20:45:28 GMT -5
Ok, so, my thoughts on Cody Rhodes being the one to dethrone Roman. Or rather, not my thoughts. These are the thoughts of someone, or rather TWO people who have IRL lived the situation that Jey Uso (and Sami Zayn) were portrayed in and are viewing the storyline from that perspective. Would it be great for the narcissistic abuser's victims to be the one to topple him? Sure, and what a moment it would be. But the thing about escaping a NPD Abusive environment is that you can NOT base your new life without them on your life with them. You have to fully cut ties and escape, move on, and never look back. That's the only true way to heal from that situation. It would have been awesome to see Sami or Jey be the ones to finish the story. But really, the person to topple Roman needs to be someone who saw them for the abuser they were the whole time and, when they take him down, don't have any baggage attached to that victory. If Jey or Sami were the ones to beat Roman, that's what it would have been. They'd have been "the one to beat Roman" something that from an abuse survivor's perspective isn't the best thing for a person who went through that. Revenge really isn't as cathartic as people think it is and, really, it just leaves you empty. I wanted it to be Jey until I talked with these people about it. Now, I agree. It should be Cody. Cody should be the one to dethrone Roman at whatever their next encounter is and Jey and Sami (and hopefully someday Jimmy and Solo) can go on to build legacies unconnected to Roman Reigns and his NPD bullsh*t. I think another important thing we need to look at it from here is that Roman is also like a crime boss. He's not going down easily while he has his organization still operating. He's Nino Brown from New Jack City, Franklin Saint from Snowfall and EZ Reyes from Mayans MC. All shared similar traits, but also had flaws that eventually led to their downfall. Those that were close to them were driven away or they eventually turned on them because of the decisions they were making. Now, if Jey and Sami were portrayed as more serious heels and all they cared about was power, then dethroning Roman would probably make more sense for them. Kind of like something you would see in crime shows or mafia movies. It's another reason why I believe Cody is perfect to dethrone him because now he's doing something no other competitor has yet to do against Roman. He's targeting the organization first before going after the person in charge and he's using business tactics to do it. (Or so it seems, WWE could change this) But most importantly, he saw the bloodline at their most vulnerable position and took advantage by bringing Jey to Raw while also creating an ally within him. Cody's EVP background could open up room for a lot potential. He's almost like a corrupted politician or government official with mafia ties from a show/movie. And if it's anything I've learned from playing Mafia 3's story is that if you want to bring down the person in charge, you take out the men and the infrastructure they're standing on. Which is why I thought Cody being responsible for Jey coming to Raw was smart writing. Now, long term, whether WWE screw this up remains to be seen, but so far, the momentum is looking good. This also would play right into why he reunited Sami and Kevin to help take the Bloodline down. Cody, being Cody, would have known that you need to take the Usos' belts to remove the Usos from the equation. This was something that was touched on directly by Kevin later in saying that by taking the tag titles off them, they could regain their independence. (Well, basic vibe of what he was getting at anyway.) So it would be really interesting if, down the line, it was revealed that all of these steps that Cody has taken regarding Sami, Kevin, and Jey were specifically designed to remove Roman's supports, especially knowing that his first attempt, it wasn't enough to simply counteract The Usos with Sami and Kevin. He failed his first go because there were still too many pieces in play and to try again, he had to remove The Usos from the playing field entirely and, I'm guessing, at some point will work further to do the same with Solo as well. Basically? Something Something Cody is playing chess Something
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 19, 2023 20:48:50 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to win the WHC while Rock dethrones Roman 😆 I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Sept 19, 2023 22:32:46 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to win the WHC while Rock dethrones Roman 😆 I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41. Oh god don't wish that on us. Reigns does not need to be an absentee champion for another 2 years. It's bad enough that he's been that as long as he has been.
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Sept 19, 2023 23:02:11 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to win the WHC while Rock dethrones Roman 😆 I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41. I am sick to death of seeing Roman Reigns with a title, this mother er doesn't need to be the champion, nobody wants to see a Main Event with two ing part timers. WrestleMania 40 is going to end on a good note, Cody Rhodes winning his first WWE Championship, How many ing times is Roman Reigns going to leave WrestleMania as the champion? He's done it 3 ing years enough is a enough and it's time for a change.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 20, 2023 9:01:05 GMT -5
I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41. Oh god don't wish that on us. Reigns does not need to be an absentee champion for another 2 years. It's bad enough that he's been that as long as he has been. It wouldn’t surprise me tbh… Rock vs Reigns is a must see match and I don’t see Rock beating Reigns. I’d have Reigns beat Rock and then lose to Cody at SummerSlam next year.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 20, 2023 9:02:16 GMT -5
I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41. I am sick to death of seeing Roman Reigns with a title, this mother er doesn't need to be the champion, nobody wants to see a Main Event with two ing part timers. WrestleMania 40 is going to end on a good note, Cody Rhodes winning his first WWE Championship, How many ing times is Roman Reigns going to leave WrestleMania as the champion? He's done it 3 ing years enough is a enough and it's time for a change. Yep it’s about time tbh but I wouldn't be surprised if Reigns stays the Champ for a lil bit longer
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Sept 20, 2023 9:11:24 GMT -5
I am sick to death of seeing Roman Reigns with a title, this mother er doesn't need to be the champion, nobody wants to see a Main Event with two ing part timers. WrestleMania 40 is going to end on a good note, Cody Rhodes winning his first WWE Championship, How many ing times is Roman Reigns going to leave WrestleMania as the champion? He's done it 3 ing years enough is a enough and it's time for a change. Yep it’s about time tbh but I would be surprised if Reigns stays the Champ for a lil bit longer It's time for Cody Rhodes, who is the number one babyface in the company to win his first WWE Championship, Reigns has had the title long enough and it's getting boring. WWE needs a second full time World Champion. Roman Reigns is stale.
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Post by The American Daydream on Sept 20, 2023 10:27:18 GMT -5
I hope to see Reigns crush Brunos initial record. Then he can lose it.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Sept 20, 2023 19:51:19 GMT -5
Suffering succotash
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Post by shanieomaniac on Sept 21, 2023 1:18:27 GMT -5
The only thing I'm legit scared about with the notion of Cody winning is that rumor someone posted about how Roman has been given creative control over the Tribal Chief character and only he can say when he loses the belt. I pray to god that that isn't the truth because that's way too much power to give any wrestler, we know how that story goes. It's pretty obvious that Roman has been put in a position of power behind the scenes that you sort of get the idea that not everyone is keen on but with the new management, who knows? Bottom line is that having a world title of any kind that only gets defended on the big 4 shows a year is garbage, nobody liked it when Brock pulled that crap and it's gotten old with Roman REALL friggin quick. Roman never being around worked decent enough when the Bloodline was a full sized group that could maintain the storyline without him. Now it just feels so empty. The point of the story now should be Roman's struggle with his losing everything, except he's just NOT THERE so without him there's no story left to be told except the story of The Judgement Day being the dollar store bloodline and dominating every single show.
WWE making a big deal about the next "special occasion" that their world champion is bothering to show up to work, I don't think they realize how bad a look that is on them.
Roman needs to lose the belt to Cody at WM40 whether he wants to or not. This needs to not be his choice and I don't care who doesn't like it. He's been champion long enough, he will never be Bruno, stop trying to make him.
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Post by The American Daydream on Sept 21, 2023 8:31:47 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to win the WHC while Rock dethrones Roman 😆 I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41. that works for me but I'm still pushing for another 3-4 years of ROMAN REIGNS baby. The IWC can cry and stomp their feet all they want claiming Roman doesn't draw but he does for the people that matter. The people who go to shows religiously and don't sit online armchair booking instead. Man was never an indy darling that needed to wrestle every week like Orange Cassidy, he's a special attraction. Simple as that.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 21, 2023 8:35:22 GMT -5
I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41. that works for me but I'm still pushing for another 3-4 years of ROMAN REIGNS baby. The IWC can cry and stomp their feet all they want claiming Roman doesn't draw but he does for the people that matter. The people who go to shows religiously and don't sit online armchair booking instead. Man was never an indy darling that needed to wrestle every week like Orange Cassidy, he's a special attraction. Simple as that. Imagine considering the fickle, fairweather casual crowd "people who matter" lulz
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 21, 2023 10:25:48 GMT -5
Yep it’s about time tbh but I would be surprised if Reigns stays the Champ for a lil bit longer It's time for Cody Rhodes, who is the number one babyface in the company to win his first WWE Championship, Reigns has had the title long enough and it's getting boring. WWE needs a second full time World Champion. Roman Reigns is stale. Cody’s time is coming hopefully soon enough
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 21, 2023 10:26:36 GMT -5
I'm thinking Reigns beats Rock at WM40 and then we get Reigns vs Cody at WM41. that works for me but I'm still pushing for another 3-4 years of ROMAN REIGNS baby. The IWC can cry and stomp their feet all they want claiming Roman doesn't draw but he does for the people that matter. The people who go to shows religiously and don't sit online armchair booking instead. Man was never an indy darling that needed to wrestle every week like Orange Cassidy, he's a special attraction. Simple as that. Reigns should be Champ for a few more months… til WM40 or SummerSlam 2024.
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Post by The American Daydream on Sept 21, 2023 10:44:58 GMT -5
that works for me but I'm still pushing for another 3-4 years of ROMAN REIGNS baby. The IWC can cry and stomp their feet all they want claiming Roman doesn't draw but he does for the people that matter. The people who go to shows religiously and don't sit online armchair booking instead. Man was never an indy darling that needed to wrestle every week like Orange Cassidy, he's a special attraction. Simple as that. Imagine considering the fickle, fairweather casual crowd "people who matter" lulz They are the vast majority and they pay actual money to see the product so yes they matter a lot more to executives than people whining on the internet like you mate. This is common knowledge. Imagine using lulz in 2023 😂 that's the real offense here
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 14:01:56 GMT -5
Meh. It’s decent at best
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Post by Dan on Sept 21, 2023 16:16:17 GMT -5
There is no way whatsoever that they are going to pass on Roman Reigns vs The Rock in favour of having Cody win the Title. I think that's the end goal regardless (since there's nobody else realistically ready for it), so it's only delaying it. I'm not the biggest Cody fan, and I do think it will be the most predictable Wrestlemania Main Event there could be when the Rematch does happen, but they've shown they can hold off and find temporary filler feuds to put him in whilst ensuring his stock doesn't fall.
The real question is what they do with Cody at Wrestlemania if he doesn't get it this time around. John Cena, potentially? He'd need a Brock Lesnar esque consolation prize as a grudge match feud that's for sure, to avoid the fans souring on Rock. Whatever happens, I hope they don't insert him as the third piece in a Triple Threat. Reigns vs Rock, despite that it should've gone down at '39, is still the biggest money match possible.
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Sept 25, 2023 10:30:49 GMT -5
There is no way whatsoever that they are going to pass on Roman Reigns vs The Rock in favour of having Cody win the Title. I think that's the end goal regardless (since there's nobody else realistically ready for it), so it's only delaying it. I'm not the biggest Cody fan, and I do think it will be the most predictable Wrestlemania Main Event there could be when the Rematch does happen, but they've shown they can hold off and find temporary filler feuds to put him in whilst ensuring his stock doesn't fall. The real question is what they do with Cody at Wrestlemania if he doesn't get it this time around. John Cena, potentially? He'd need a Brock Lesnar esque consolation prize as a grudge match feud that's for sure, to avoid the fans souring on Rock. Whatever happens, I hope they don't insert him as the third piece in a Triple Threat. Reigns vs Rock, despite that it should've gone down at '39, is still the biggest money match possible. I am sorry to tell you but Roman Reigns Vs. The Rock is never going to happen at this point, Rock hasn't had a full match since the second Cena match, and he got injured in that match. Cody Rhodes is the number one babyface in WWE and he is their priority right now and is the one to take the titles off Roman Reigns especially at WrestleMania 40. Let say they do Roman Reigns Vs. The Rock, either of these two outcomes happen A. Rock wins the title then what or B. Roman wins and keeps the title for the 4 year in a row. I have no interest in seeing Roman Reigns Vs. The Rock.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 25, 2023 10:38:21 GMT -5
There is no way whatsoever that they are going to pass on Roman Reigns vs The Rock in favour of having Cody win the Title. I think that's the end goal regardless (since there's nobody else realistically ready for it), so it's only delaying it. I'm not the biggest Cody fan, and I do think it will be the most predictable Wrestlemania Main Event there could be when the Rematch does happen, but they've shown they can hold off and find temporary filler feuds to put him in whilst ensuring his stock doesn't fall. The real question is what they do with Cody at Wrestlemania if he doesn't get it this time around. John Cena, potentially? He'd need a Brock Lesnar esque consolation prize as a grudge match feud that's for sure, to avoid the fans souring on Rock. Whatever happens, I hope they don't insert him as the third piece in a Triple Threat. Reigns vs Rock, despite that it should've gone down at '39, is still the biggest money match possible. I am sorry to tell you but Roman Reigns Vs. The Rock is never going to happen at this point, Rock hasn't had a full match since the second Cena match, and he got injured in that match. Cody Rhodes is the number one babyface in WWE and he is their priority right now and is the one to take the titles off Roman Reigns especially at WrestleMania 40. Let say they do Roman Reigns Vs. The Rock, either of these two outcomes happen A. Rock wins the title then what or B. Roman wins and keeps the title for the 4 year in a row. I have no interest in seeing Roman Reigns Vs. The Rock. Hasn't stopped WWE before.
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