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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 27, 2020 11:00:32 GMT -5
But yet, you'll all still watch. Wrong. WWE COVID shows are unwatchable. This isn't even Wrestlemania, its a joke.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 27, 2020 10:56:59 GMT -5
I'm right with you there. I'm not a violent guy, but if anyone came near me in a store, when all I'm trying to do is make sure that I have enough food or supplies to get me through the week, and coughed or sneezed, I'd be going to jail for beating the out of them. With a virus that spreads this easily, and most people have no symptoms, this is no time for jackassery. It's not funny, it's not a prank. As it is I wouldn't feel comfortable going near my 94 year old grandmother unless I've been tested, and I am someone who stays miles away from anyone unless its completely unavoidable (which of course it isn't if you're in a store).
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 26, 2020 22:31:54 GMT -5
Hogan might end up getting that final match afterall... Seriously though when I read that, my initial thought was 'good for you, brother'. Even if Wrestlemania was going on as planned at this point it's not worth compromising health. I'm not a Reigns fan in terms of wrestling, but as a man I'm inspired by his return story. Cancel....the ing......show. Seriously this is going to be the biggest dumpster fire since December to Dismember. The only Wrestlemania moment is the fact that there's nobody there. You can have the matches, but Wrestlemania is D.O.A. Nothing will save it. I haven't gotten through a single WWE COVID show yet. If conditions are so bad that they can't even keep people on the show its a lost cause.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 26, 2020 11:55:06 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat with everyone else, this was not good. I mean, they have a damn good reason, and at least they're trying. The world sucks right now, so wrestling will certainly suffer within those constraints. I also love Cody, but this was not his best night. In the ring his timing was a little off, and he'd be best served to be guest commentator on one match rather than an entire show. Also, Broken Matt in all of its "glory" is a bit too much for me.
Ok that's enough criticism. The criticism is mostly based on the shows that they are legally allowed to have at this point. It kept me engaged, and to be fair there was no following last weeks show, which (constraints and all) will likely go on to be one of the best wrestling programs of the year. All WWE "COVID shows" remain unwatchable, so I'll happily support AEW's efforts. At least all of the matches are live and not from weeks or months ago.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 24, 2020 15:24:01 GMT -5
I work for UPS. Someone started an online petition demanding we get hazard pay. In a way, I agree with it. But it also seems wrong. I'm in favor. You don't have a choice to stay home or isolate yourself in nature. Nothing wrong about it. Everyone should be either rewarded or made whole since people are just getting screwed royally right now, either by being forced to close or being forced to work in these conditions. It won't happen, but if you have the opportunity you shouldn't feel guilty for taking advantage.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 23, 2020 22:09:09 GMT -5
The longer this goes on, the more worried I become, not so much the virus, but society. Today’s society, especially here in America, isn’t built for all of the necessary restrictions. The more events are canceled, the more business are shut down, and the more areas invoking “stay at home” orders, the more society is going to rebel. I hope it doesn’t get to the level of riots and anarchy, but if coronavirus is going to be around for as long as projected we could get there sooner than later, and that’s frightening. When nobody can answer, “when will things be back to normal?” Fear comes to the forefront. The unknown is one of the biggest fears people have. Everyone just be smart and only go out for essentials. Things will get worse before they get better, but they will get better. I said in my first post in this thread everything happening was an overreaction yet a justified one, and I still stand by that statement. However, when it’s all over and we’re back to normal, we’ll know the restrictions were the right call. I have the exact same fears. Even two months is too long. I've not been staying home, I'm going to national parks and trails to social distance because I have severe anxiety associated with being shut in. The chiding and insults of 'stay home, stop killing people, you're so selfish!' may work for some. For these people staying home for 3 or more months may be a minor inconvenience. I get very stir crazy, which leads to suicidal thoughts. I need to get out. I'd break the law to get out, even if the penalty was death. That's just me. Others WILL revolt. There will be riots, looting, and violence if this goes on much longer. Do you think all small business owners who can't feed their families and face evictions are going to lay down and die? What about hospitality workers who live paycheck to paycheck? Society would collapse, but nobody is talking about that. You hear two stories: first is the virus itself, statistics, hospital capacity, and medical supplies....the second is admonishon for people not social distancing well enough. I kind of get the latter, people shouldn't be congregating at beaches, but bitching at people walking in small groups or, worse, even being outside at all is no good. Its not even possible to stay 6 feet away at the store unless only 3 people are allowed in at a time. (which was tried out here. Guess what happened...fights broke out in the long line to get in). Closing all "nonessential" businesses for three or more months is not sustainable. Also, what is "nonessential"? Essential to one person could be nonessential to another. To some, gyms are essential to maintain health and socilization. To others, churches are essential for spirituality and socialization. To others bars are essential for stress relief and socialization. The bottom line is that essential needs are not being met. Yes I get semantics and context. In these cases essential means giving people the bare necessities that will keep their hearts beating while they are isolated from all of their friends and families. Ignoring the social, economic, and mental aspects is extremely dangerous. I'm concerned about the people who might eventually die if this thing turns out as badly as projected, but I'm more concerned about the above, which are happening right now. And just like the virus these will only get worse. The response would ideally be more balanced.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 20, 2020 10:34:51 GMT -5
The thing about this - and this won't be popular - is that many people will die of the virus, but many others will not survive the fallout. Yes I know, the ill come first, and they should, but there's a lot more than a pandemic at play here. The economy is already tanking hard, and tens of thousands of businesses will close forever; small and otherwise (large businesses on the cusp of closure like Sears/Kmart and Gamestop won't survive this). Anyone out of work is at a huge risk. I know there are bailout programs, but it's never enough to cover actual work, and millions are ineligible due to loopholes and fine print. Moreover, the social implications are going to be severe. We can all manage a month, maybe even two of no entertainment, no travel, no bars, no restaurant dining, and supply shortages, but stretching to 3 and beyond (some say a year or more of lockdown) is not sustainable. People will start to crack. Suicides will rise, crimes like robberies and home invasions will occur, there will even be riots if we're locked away for 6 months or more. Once summer hits, and the heat rises, things are really going to get bad. There's also going to be a huge spike in births over the next two years since there's litetally nothing else to do. This is what scares me the most, not the virus itself. Life as we knew it is over for a very long time, and many of us who don't even get sick will not make it out. I really wish they'd taken this seriously from the outset (not that I did at first either). I guess this is a PSA to try not to forget the "healthy" who won't make it out of this (of which I am likely one). Be nice when someone freaks out about how this will affect them, because all they're hearing is ' this isn't about you' while their world implodes. It all feels pretty hopeless now, and scolding people for even being outside really doesn't help anyone. Everyone is trying to adapt to the new normal, and some of us (financially, socially, or mentally) won't be able to.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 18, 2020 23:53:26 GMT -5
Damn, AEW brought it tonight. Raw was one of the worst piles of crap I've ever turned off. I was afraid that wrestling wouldn't work in an empty arena, but it turns out that it can. What a show! It wasn't the best, but it was probably up there. I'm actually pretty psyched for next Wednesday's show. I'm severely depressed right now, and pretty much everything WWE has done since we've been placed under house arrest has only made me feel worse and highlighted just how badly everything sucks. AEW actually made me (mostly) forget about it for a couple of hours.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 17, 2020 0:35:53 GMT -5
This was a no win situation. I don't have a better solution either way, but an empty arena show in a 350 capacity building will not feel like Wrestlemania no matter what they do. The show is a lost cause, but it could easily be October before they're allowed to perform in front of fans again. I'd actually rather they suspended all shows until this is over because the empty arena shows are unwatchable.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 16, 2020 22:11:49 GMT -5
They should've just chancelled it.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 13, 2020 11:23:18 GMT -5
I'm personally more annoyed than anything else. I'm not staying home, but I'm concerned enough to wash my hands more and carry hand sanitizer with me. I'm basically approaching this as I do flu season, only with more of a chip on my shoulder because we can't find tp or paper towels.
I think that this is a real illness that needs to be treated with caution, but the media is inducing panic. Canceling everything, while probably not the worst idea, is fueling panic. It is impossible not to panic if you watch the news. They literally say 'this is going to get much worse, the shockwaves will be felt for months and years to come, and there WILL be many more deaths, stay home, don't go anywhere, but don't panic'. F#ck you, you're trying to turn this into a police state. If we go on Italy lockdown that's exactly what this will be. I genuinely worry about the elderly and compromised among us, but I feel like those of us without close family or friends who fall into these categories should be exposed so that our immune systems can have a chance to build up a tolerance, and not be defenseless when this comes around again.
Don't be stupid, don't be a "hero" and go out if you're sick, don't lick doorknobs, wash your goddamn hands and f#cking cover your goddamn mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze for the first time in your misspent life, don't go near the infirm if you think there's even a chance you've been exposed, but don't barricade yourself in your home until the sky stops falling, chicken little. They've taken away most of our entertainment already, don't leave yourself with nothing.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 12, 2020 9:58:41 GMT -5
This is something to take seriously...but not to completely halt life over. There's way too much uncertainty surrounding this for any supposed arm chair medical experts on a wrestling toy forum to chime in on what how serious this is or isn't. Go out and live your life. MAYBE they should postpone the show, maybe they shouldn't. At least a handful of attendees will have been exposed. That doesn't necessarily mean that 100,000 attendees will be infected. I'd be more worried for their parents and grandparents at home than for the vast majority of mostly younger attendees.
From a creative standpoint a postponement could be good or bad. They might have a chance to rethink this whole Goldberg/Reigns abortion, and might find something decent for guys like Ricochet and Aelister Black aside from the Andre Battle Royal.....they also might decide to replace Shayna as has been rumored, which hopefully won't happen. But to people on here just live your lives, wash your hands, and ffs don't wipe your ass any more than necessary. I'm almost out of tp and really don't want to buy it on ebay for Harley Race prices.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 10, 2020 14:07:06 GMT -5
Should've been Taker/Kane/Black vs AJ/Gallows/Anderson. Its more of a Wrestlemania Moment with the Brothers of Destruction, and a good way to sprinkle that Taker dust on Black. I'm wondering what Black will do otherwise. Unless He's going for some sort of belt, which is looking unlikely, I don't know what would be better for him.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 6, 2020 12:02:58 GMT -5
Ugh that spider was so fake. They should've put a sphynx cat in there, it would at least make the terror reaction seem more like shock than having grown men act terrified of a Halloween decoration.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 5, 2020 19:19:25 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Demon Balor still hasn't lost a match actually
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 5, 2020 19:18:39 GMT -5
I'm too old to remember many specifics, but here are the highlights
LJN and Hasbro- Hogan was always champion, and only lost if like 20 people interfered. I do remember he had a match with Earthquake where Hogan (Hulkaplex, best version) broke Quake's jaw with a top rope forearm smash. There was also one where Bossman beat quake by hooking the legs with the nightstick so he couldn't kick out. I used an old tv remote as a chair since it made a nice crack sound. I loved the first Bret figure and the Macho King. Demolition were the top tag team and basically traded the title with LOD back and forth.
BCA/r3 - Michaels, Vader, Taker, and Owen were always the champ until WCW toybiz figs came out. Then it was Hogan again. I had TTL Big Show and Goldberg as an unstoppable tag team for awhile.
RA - Basically Angle ran the place, but Edge, Jeff, HBK, HHH, Kane, and Taker got their time as well. He made everyone tap. I would do Elimination Chamber matches with 6 or 8 man tag teams. Snitsky and Benjamin were top guys. Benjamin might've even been champion once. Regal was used as a henchman to stretch guys before title matches.
I also had a classic Superstar series. This is probably my greatest memory of playing with wrestling figures, even though I was way old to be playing with figures. Gorilla and Jesse at the commentary table, Lou Filipo as the referee it was all of the figures I wanted to play with as a child and more (minus Savage of course, which was the only glaring omission). Hogan, Flair, and Andre were commonly world champions, but guys like Perfect and Dibiase also got it. There was a Dungeon of Doom with Shango, Giant Gonzales, Sullivan, and some of the other freakier guys. I had to crouch the managers so they didn't tower over the wrestlers. I remember loving to use Arn and Tully as a tag team. Demolition (all 3), Powers of Pain, LOD, Hart Foundation, Bushwhackers, Samoans, and other random tandems were the tag teams. Perfect, Honky, Beefcake, and Bulldog were common IC champs. The Heenan Family was infinitely more successful in my fed than in real life.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 5, 2020 18:26:09 GMT -5
He's the Friend now? Damn, they really did pull the plug on the Fiend quickly. I guess it'll be as relevant as a mohawk Sheamus.
I read the whole thread. Top Picks is the series for you.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 2, 2020 18:09:26 GMT -5
The placement really is my only issue with it. I think the design is actually kind of cool. On the neck though? He looks like a criminal as opposed to the white meat babyface that he is. The fact that he has only one other makes it really stick out. I'm assuming he'd get more so that it looks less out of place.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 1, 2020 16:26:02 GMT -5
Good show, I surprisingly loved the tag match even though I'm not a fan of Kenny or the Bucks. Hangman on the other hand is really winning me over big time. They need to book carefully, because we could have a huge breakout star on our hands. I'm intrigued by the story and don't know where it's going, but for now Omega and Hangman are turning into a damn good tag team. I liked MJF vs Cody as a match, Cody is amazing with the emotion and psychology, and MJF is the second coming of Gino Hernandez, HOWEVER....the tattoo ed up the match a bit. It was such a shock - not so much the image but the placement - that the match suffered as a result. I couldn't get over the 'Code, what did you do to yourself?' feeling. Rather than concentrating on the match I was too busy monitoring the tattoo, hoping to see signs of Hakushi flake-away syndrome. Never came. Orange Cassidy surprised me. I love Pac already, but that match was way better than it had any right to be. Jericho/Mox was exactly what it needed to be, a damn good main event. I just wish Jericho was able to screw Mox out of the title once before dropping it. I really hope L'Champion gets it back. They could and should drag this feud out a bit while they build new potential contenders. All in all, I loved it. AEW as a company has some genuine weaknesses that need to be hammered out, but with few exceptions this show was full of strengths. I find myself more excited for Dynamite than any other wrestling show every week, and far more excited for AEW's next ppv than Wrestlemania.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Feb 29, 2020 17:32:42 GMT -5
I always saw him as a potential top guy. For me he was the standout of Legacy. I actually thought DiBiase sucked and everyone else (especially the company) seemed to think he was the guy. In my eyes he proved over and over again that he had the ability to be the guy. Yes he's a little small, but he's great on the mic, and has continued to prove that he can excel at any role. I actually think he's only further proven his capability to be the top guy since AEW began. In my opinion he's so far ahead of all of the other babyface in terms of psychology and emotion that it's not even close, although there are absolutely better in-ring performers. I already think he's an incredible heel, so in my eyes he's one of a very few guys who is as good of a face as he is a heel. In that regard I would compare him to guys like Hogan, Austin, and Rock.
Although THE top guy of AEW is Jericho, he's presented that way and rightfully so. I really think he should retain over Mox, but that's for another thread
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