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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 16:35:42 GMT -5
If the house show is going to be shown on the Network, why buy a ticket? I'm not disagreeing with you, but this argument has been made about every sport (pro wrestling included) since TV began. I mean, local blackouts absolutely were a thing when the WWF started running PPVs. They still continue in major sports. So obviously there's a strong argument to be made there. That being said, have you ever watched a PPV event on tape/dvd/network/ect that you had been to live? The only WWE event DVDs I have are of ones that I was at live. Interesting point you brought up there man. As far as helping House Shows, I honestly think that they need to do more angles. If one were to look at how the MSG shows were put together month to month back in the day, they'd see a great formula. So like, just do that all over the horn.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 16:17:59 GMT -5
That's not on the workers, that's on the agents and the company for insisting on a sh tty style that includes no more than 4 "types" of matches. Character development is also on the writing team. It's also obvious that you're jesting (trolling) with the "slow paced moves anyone could pull off". Maybe you're talking about your boy, Stroman? But I doubt Dino Bravo could do 1/10 of what Cesaro does. And you know that. Watch a freaking Claudio match from Noah or something and tell me the guy is nothing but slow paced moves with "some signatures sprinkled in"... lol jeesh man, have a little dignity when you offer up a view point. Maybe you don't *like* the characters as much today, but it's borderline libel to say that they're not as good in ring as they've ever been. As far as Star Power goes, it's really going to depend on when you were born/started watching. But I don't think it's quite right to throw Austin in with the 03-04 squad of guys, considering he worked 1 match. And not for nothing, that's a HUGE chunk out of 03's claim. Austin's the biggest ever. Austin's "star power" eclipses around 25 of the 92 Royal Rumble participants combined. So taking him away really hurts. I got a good laugh out of your response. I don't feel like responding again, as it is clear you don't see things the way I do (that is fine). You seem to have a hard time accepting that other people have opinions that don't match your own. I mean, if you're talking about the Star Power thing.. Sure, that's all SUBJECTIVE. I was just sharing my OPINION on that matter. I wouldn't die fighting for either 92 or 03 when it comes to that. I'll flip flop depending on my mood. As far as they agents dictating the style? That's not an opinion? It's not my opinion that the sky is blue? It's not my opinion that ketchup is red? It's not my opinion that grass is green? lol, are you really trying to say that the words "facts" and "opinions" share a definition? 'Cause that's uh... that's strange. Also, know the difference between "I say that is GOOD." and "I like that!". You never have to defend what you like. But if you're confident enough in your opinion, one shouldn't shy away why one thinks something is "good". If you think Dino Bravo was "good" then you should try to back it up with facts. If you say you "like" Dino Bravo, well then, that's all I need! I freaking LOVED Virgil as a kid, but I'm not saying he's better than Dolph Ziggler. And if you'd like to climb a hill and say that Dino Bravo could do half of what Cesaro does, please, climb that hill man, I'd love to see the mental gymnastics! I won't even respond dude, please. PLEASE do that!
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 15:56:43 GMT -5
How you, as a 14 year old boy, didn't sign up just to get in on the "RKO Her" meme is a testament to your character. ? ive been here since late 2002 I meant, "sign up and start posting 'RKO her!'". Your deal says you didn't sign up 'till 2016. That RKO meme was around 2005-06 ish. Which would've mae you 14 around that time, no?
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 15:20:36 GMT -5
That looks great J! Is that plumber tape on his hand?
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 15:16:26 GMT -5
I kind of would be mad to be honest. Savage has had way too many figures in Mattel's tenure. Sherri should have really been made in HOF series 1 instead of Trish. Unless there is a legality issue, Sherri is overdue. I'm not trying to rag on Savage. He's a legend, a hero. But dang there's a point where seeing the same guy three times a year is enough. Especially when there are a lot of great figures that can be made. If Jimmy Hart has been made then Sherri should be made in single form. I would not be opposed to a Battle Pack with Savage as a second figure for her. But as a debut Mattel, Sherri deserves a single packed figure. I agree with all you said about scraping the bottom of the barrel. Tugboat, quake, typhoon, jyd, warlord, berserker... But leave macho alone!! Id take no more warrior, flair, taker...but macho? I dont wanna go white girl...but i just cant even right now If it weren't for the obvious ignorance (which isn't an insult, it just mean 'lack of knowledge'.Ignorant doesn't mean dumb or stupid) I'd climb a hill and star shouting down at you. Instead, I'll just point out that JYD at one point was a regional icon, and is responsible for record setting numbers in Mid-South. Not impressed? He sold out arenas multiple times and packed huge numbers to the Superdome. Your personal hero, D'Lo Brown can't say that, huh? And Earthquake?! How can one say that Warrior deserves 50 figures yet the guy WHO OUTDREW HIM during his WORLD TITLE run doesn't? I'm not saying make 20 versions of the guy, but calling him "bottom of the barrel" is ignoring the fact that he outdrew any heel you can name that was around in that time period. Or after! For like 7 years. So, when you go to make your TIL post, make sure to include "Earthquake was the best drawing WWF heel from 1990-1998".
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 15:02:54 GMT -5
I think current fans like to say that because wrestling is so unpopular right now compared to what it once was, that they just want something to brag about. I was far more entertained as a viewer watching 80's, 90's and early to mid 00's than I am now. I see the same moves performed week in and week out on current WWE, and the matches all feel like spot fests now that have clearly been rehearsed. You had a more natural flow back in the day with the in ring action, and when you would get a long technical match, it meant something. The characters they have now are all pretty dry, considering most character development is just give this person a nickname and repeat it 25 times during their match. And back to in ring talent.....I just don't see this roster being super by any means. What do they do that is so amazing? Have 30 minute matches full of slow paced moves that any wrestler could pull off and just sprinkle in some signature moves here and there? I just don't see it, mic skills seem to be a very big weakness to most of the current roster so they don't have a lot of talent there. I think this is one of the weakest rosters in the history of WWE to be honest. That's not on the workers, that's on the agents and the company for insisting on a sh tty style that includes no more than 4 "types" of matches. Character development is also on the writing team. It's also obvious that you're jesting (trolling) with the "slow paced moves anyone could pull off". Maybe you're talking about your boy, Stroman? But I doubt Dino Bravo could do 1/10 of what Cesaro does. And you know that. Watch a freaking Claudio match from Noah or something and tell me the guy is nothing but slow paced moves with "some signatures sprinkled in"... lol jeesh man, have a little dignity when you offer up a view point. Maybe you don't *like* the characters as much today, but it's borderline libel to say that they're not as good in ring as they've ever been. As far as Star Power goes, it's really going to depend on when you were born/started watching. But I don't think it's quite right to throw Austin in with the 03-04 squad of guys, considering he worked 1 match. And not for nothing, that's a HUGE chunk out of 03's claim. Austin's the biggest ever. Austin's "star power" eclipses around 25 of the 92 Royal Rumble participants combined. So taking him away really hurts.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 14:48:51 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the "You can't have a great match because HHH has to have the great match in the main event" style. That wasn't even a thing until recently (like, last 15 years). That's why, back way back when, Hogan would go on right before intermission (or right after) and let the Harts and the Bulldogs go last... Because if you don't let Bret and Dynamite and Davey go out there and show what they bring to the table, they never get over.
And I'm of the belief that if they'd let guys go out and do what they do, matches would get better and more people would start to care. Ratings would go up. Maybe it's a different world, but TNA worked this way from November 2004- September 2006 and was second only to Noah in terms of being the best company to watch. They also saw growth during that period...
So, maybe it's not just great matches? Maybe you have to get the sh tty writers out of there too, and let D'Amore book.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 14:34:04 GMT -5
I've lurked/had accounts since I was like 9. I'm 24 now. I was 11 when i found the site, im 26 now lol How you, as a 14 year old boy, didn't sign up just to get in on the "RKO Her" meme is a testament to your character.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 13:54:18 GMT -5
Plus I just saw Zack Ryder's post and he's got the Macho Man NWO why is it still up for pre-order but Zack Ryder has his I'm literally waiting on a huge order for macho man come on ringside LOL The dude literally spent part of his WRESTLEMANIA paycheck on the elusive "Rhythm and Blues" Valentine proto. He should get ALL THE FIGURES early.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 13:43:33 GMT -5
I'm not too mad at the Mattel legends set. I mean, they are miles better than Jakks. And they have given us some pretty well desired names like Savage, Miss Elizabeth and DLo Brown. My only gripe is with some of the newer ones coming out. Warlord? Berzerker? Tatanka? Tugboat? They're kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel now. I'd like to see some newer and more popular names come out. And NO MORE Savages! We don't need 1000 Savages out there. He's about the equivalent of John Cena. Except kids actually know who Cena is. I'm really tired of seeing Savage in every outfit he's ever worn. He's been done to death. I'd really love to see Sherri made. The fact that Berzeker and Warlord made it in before her is just sad. I understand your point, but you also have to understand that Bill's fandom comes from a certain vintage, which in this case is 90-95. You also have to think about the way nostalgia has always been sold - On a 20-25 year delay. It's like that because you figure that a kid who was 10 years old in 1992 is a parent/has disposable income now that they are in their late 20s/Early 30s. It's why we're getting "Rocko's Modern Life" and "Hey! Arnold" this winter. It's why we got MMPR this summer. It's why 10 years ago there was a giant push for GI Joe. Watch, in the next 5-10 years we'll be seeing those weird, translucent colored computer monitors re-released by Apple. And as far as Savage is concerned, sh t kiddo, Macho had more iconic, colorful outfits than anyone else in history. Add that with the fact that the Savage "brand" wasn't released 100x by Jakks (like Cena) and it makes total sense to keep releasing him. Mojo has NOTHING on Savage. All of that being said, Yes, Sherri ABSOLUTELY fits into the timeline, and yes, she totally deserves her own Mattel release. HUSS HUSS HUSS
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 13:17:53 GMT -5
It's where it belongs man. Viva La Personalizado Foro!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 13:16:08 GMT -5
Sweet. It's now my new home page!
Thanks.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 12:12:09 GMT -5
As far as smooth moves go, yeah, it's not even close.
But if NJPW's growth has shown us anything these past few years, it's that WWE's "Punch,Chop,Punch," style is very prohibiting. It's like, yeah, they have the best roster ever, but it's not like they're letting them hang it all out there every night.
SEE: Máscara Dorada
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 21, 2017 2:48:31 GMT -5
I used just plain old testors gloss spray paint when I made my WCW Hasbro ring. Everything came out really smooth looking including the turnbuckles. Not something you could use to play with but nice for display. I uh, do you have pictures of this WCW Hasbro ring? Sounds intriguing.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 20, 2017 22:38:52 GMT -5
This made me think of my buddy Terry, who, about 6 months ago sent me a text saying "Come over right now!". I get there and see that he has downloaded a SPOT ON version of Harvey in BMTAS form on 2K17. Naturally, he started managing all the heels like it was 1984 WWF.
The answer is obviously White/Shiny, but I think you knew that!
Fun thread idea dude!
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 20, 2017 22:15:19 GMT -5
... Was it good enough NOT to list as a custom? lol
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 20, 2017 21:55:23 GMT -5
I'm not saying I didn't enjoy it, I was just expecting more "Horror" and less "OMG did you see Stranger Things? Let's do that!".
Speaking of which, that Stranger Things kid was *almost* as bad as Robin in Lego Batman. Like, one or two more Michael Scott jokes from him would've killed the whole thing for me.
But seriously, lovely film for what it was. Just don't do what I did and have a pre-set tone in mind, 'cause it's not that kind of movie at all.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 20, 2017 21:48:35 GMT -5
As Much as Everyone Knows I am a diehard U2 fan, And they just have a 15-second clip of a new song called "The Blackout". I should know this, because they recorded and shot this before their Joshua Tree 2017 Tour in Paris. And U2 also has teased that their first single might be "The Best Thing" on Songs of Experience. But either way, it's just like they said in Christmas 2016, "2017 is going to be the year of U2" and with the Joshua Tree 30th Anniversary and the potential Songs of Experience on the way. It is. Here is the clip of The Blackout. Oh man, never saw this post but have been keeping up! Seriously, with this AND THE KILLERS putting new albums out (not to mention MARK MULCAHY put out a record this year!), 2017 is going to be a banner year in my music fandom. Which... leads me to this; I'm right in the middle of Missouri, and when I saw they were swinging through I planned on hitting both shows. Stuff got in the way and I was busy Tuesday, so I settled on the St Louis show. Me and the group head out EARLY Saturday morning (3 hour drive to St Louis) and were going to spend the morning hitting up the outlet mall. As soon as we get to the place, news hits about the cancellation. Obviously, it sucks. But, y'know, being a lifelong U2 fan, I didn't feel cheated or mad (at the band), I felt proud. I was proud of my fellow statesman for standing up to injustice. I was proud of myself for not feeling like an entitled b tch by getting upset. I was proud when I saw what Bono had said about the situation. Not happy, you see. I hate that murderers who happen to have a badge keep getting away with wanton killing. But I'm proud to be part of something that not only is disgusted by it, but willing to put in the work to change things. It's like, look. If this were "Generic Nu Metal Band #17" (y'know, the guys who did all WWE themes 2002-2011) and I were a lifelong fan of them, I wouldn't have had the proper tool set to react accordingly in this situation. I wouldn't understand the importance of being heard, or "Living out loud". Haha, I know there are some who think it's 2014 and it's "cool" to hate on them, but it's stuff like this that makes me realize how damn lucky I am that U2's music resonated with me at an early age. You uh, you heard "YTBTAM" yet?
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 20, 2017 21:26:51 GMT -5
I don't have a dog in this race, but I'm pretty sure this entire thread IS an argument against your position... Saying "No argument" doesn't magically make all the facts (ropes are too short for some tastes) go away. It's like the weirdos who hear a real news story they disagree with and say "fake news". Saying "blue is red" doesn't make it magically true... Just some friendly advice. But it is awesome that you're happy with your purchase. I'll for sure be picking it up once it hits Big Lots in 2019. For $30. Do you own the ring ? It's way better than the ASR imo. Unless you're using this thing strictly for display , that rope thing makes no difference. I love his ring and it's only second to the Jakks Hardcore Ring imo. Nah, I haven't seen the thing first hand. Actually, I haven't gotten around to picking an ASR ring yet either, as I've been content with the RSR and Mattel's Ring. I'm going to break down here soon and pick up an NXT ASR though, and I fully plan on picking up this one at some point. It'll be interesting to see if they fix this with the eventual Smackdown/Wrestlemania Main Event Ring. And again, $100 is a lot to pay for this sort of thing, so I'm really happy that plenty of you feel like you got your money's worth.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Sept 20, 2017 18:49:49 GMT -5
Big fan of your set up/collection room. I'm not surprised to see you churn out a great looking custom. Great job.
I was going to hold off picking up a Brutus and wait for a release in his Mega Maniacs gear, but went ahead and pulled the trigger after seeing him drop to $14 a couple of weeks ago. This custom is making me regret that!
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