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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 16, 2008 11:30:17 GMT -5
I figured this win would get Brock a little respect from the so-called real mma fans that are on alot of chat broads, but some try to think that he is now less legit then before the fight. Now Randy is just some 45 year old guy who hasn't had a fight in over a year and shouldn't have been in a fight with a guy that big and not Randy Couture one of the best mma fighters in the sports history. But what can you expect of people just started really watching UFC maybe in the last two or three years but says they have been watching since UFC 1 and only hate on Brock for being a former pro wrestler. It's the whole pro wrestling thing, it really is. It drives some people insane to think that any former pro wrestler might actually be legit enough to compete in MMA. I don't know why people get so livid at the idea, but they do. It doesn't fit into their cookie-cutter idea of all pro wrestlers as jokes, frauds, and laughing stocks. When they're confronted with the idea that they might owe a former WWE champion a little respect as an athlete, it breaks their brains. They just can't process it. I find that funny also, lol. But I didnt know who Brock even was until he debuted in UFC. So my opinion is not like that. I started watching wrestling in like 05-06. I knew of Brock but hadnt seen much of anything of his matches. |
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Post by abyss on Nov 16, 2008 12:30:02 GMT -5
On a totally random note, does anyone have a picture of Lesnar with the title belt?
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Post by ajstyles888 on Nov 16, 2008 12:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by K5 on Nov 16, 2008 12:42:59 GMT -5
couture's age is definetly a factor, but it is not an excuse for a loss. brock was simply the better man in this instance. i feel bad for randy, though
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Nov 16, 2008 12:43:23 GMT -5
Lesnar is a piece of garbage and an arrogant ass. I hope he never comes back and I know he will lose the title in his next match. Noguiera will kick the crap out of him. And I will laugh......and laugh....and laugh...
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Nov 16, 2008 13:06:35 GMT -5
Lesnar is a piece of garbage and an arrogant ass. I hope he never comes back and I know he will lose the title in his next match. Noguiera will kick the crap out of him. And I will laugh......and laugh....and laugh... Just go back to the wrestling board, please. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Nov 16, 2008 13:09:29 GMT -5
couture's age is definetly a factor, but it is not an excuse for a loss. brock was simply the better man in this instance. i feel bad for randy, though Age wasn't a factor in this fight at all. |
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Post by abyss on Nov 16, 2008 13:24:00 GMT -5
Thanks man, appreciated. +1 |
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Post by K5 on Nov 16, 2008 13:32:49 GMT -5
couture's age is definetly a factor, but it is not an excuse for a loss. brock was simply the better man in this instance. i feel bad for randy, though Age wasn't a factor in this fight at all. maybe not a deciding factor, as i said, but i'd hardly say lesnar and couture having an over 10 year age difference isn't going to affect what match was held. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Nov 16, 2008 13:34:49 GMT -5
Well I'm saying, his age had nothing to do with his loss. The loss came about because of timing.
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Post by NYdream™ on Nov 16, 2008 13:41:09 GMT -5
Lesnar is a piece of garbage and an arrogant ass. I hope he never comes back and I know he will lose the title in his next match. Noguiera will kick the crap out of him. And I will laugh......and laugh....and laugh... GTFO... NOW |
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Post by Terrys Wrestling Figures on Nov 16, 2008 13:53:56 GMT -5
it didn't take him long in WWE to get [given, worked come on] the title & now its hasn't taken him long to get the UFC title
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Post by PdW2kX on Nov 16, 2008 13:55:18 GMT -5
I figured this win would get Brock a little respect from the so-called real mma fans that are on alot of chat broads, but some try to think that he is now less legit then before the fight. Now Randy is just some 45 year old guy who hasn't had a fight in over a year and shouldn't have been in a fight with a guy that big and not Randy Couture one of the best mma fighters in the sports history. But what can you expect of people just started really watching UFC maybe in the last two or three years but says they have been watching since UFC 1 and only hate on Brock for being a former pro wrestler. It's the whole pro wrestling thing, it really is. It drives some people insane to think that any former pro wrestler might actually be legit enough to compete in MMA. I don't know why people get so livid at the idea, but they do. It doesn't fit into their cookie-cutter idea of all pro wrestlers as jokes, frauds, and laughing stocks. When they're confronted with the idea that they might owe a former WWE champion a little respect as an athlete, it breaks their brains. They just can't process it. This X1,000,000. Brock is no saint, but the way some of his detractors villify him is just mesmerizing. He's confident and cocky, but what else is new in the fight game? The guy believes in his ability and loves to prove people wrong. You think you can push Lesnar's buttons by calling him a joke or an arrogant ass or not ready or not credible, but in fact he's the one pushing yours when he takes all that abuse and still goes out there and beats some ass. In this latest fight, the harshest comment Brock made directly at Randy Couture was that he was too old. There are pre-fight interviews of his filled with him praising Randy Couture as a legend and saying how incredibly grateful Brock is for the opportunity, but the second he mentions something everyone else is thinking anyway people pounce on him for being arrogant and selfish. No way am I a huge Brock fan, my level of fandom of him doesn't even approach say Fedor or Anderson, but my mind can barely rap around all this hypocrisy when it comes to him. Is Brock going to make a career out of proving people wrong? Because he's on track to do just that. Well Dana got what he wanted. The belt off Randy. - SouthPaw Unfortunately, this I really agree with too. While I don't villify Dana as much as I used to, I have to admit that this thought was at the forefront of my mind when I heard that Randy was returning. I think Randy can still go out with a bang if he fulfills the last three fights of his contract, but part of me thinks that him re-quitting in a huff and Dana saying "Fine, GTFO and STFU, because I got what I wanted: my damn belt back" is a real possibility. |
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Post by moogie101 on Nov 16, 2008 14:07:47 GMT -5
We'll I've not been the biggest Brock fan, see the No Editing thread for further details, especially my claim that Randy would win & that Lesnar MIGHT not have KO power.
Fair to say Brock shut me up.
However I didn't see Brock dominating, I actually saw Randy pulling ahead in the fight.
He stuffed a few takedowns, used strong greco to keep it standing 7 landed some good shots. When Brock was on top Randy got out & up, several times Lesnar looked frustrated to me.
However the end is Brock's strength won him the fight & he looked far more patient & a far better fighter than the guy who tapped to mir.
Still think submissions are goiing to be his kryptonite, but I thought Randy would win so who knows. He certainly deserves a lot more respect than I had previously been giving him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2008 14:31:01 GMT -5
Lesnar is a piece of garbage and an arrogant ass. I hope he never comes back and I know he will lose the title in his next match. Noguiera will kick the crap out of him. And I will laugh......and laugh....and laugh... That drawing of Batista in your sig is awesome. |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Nov 16, 2008 14:56:52 GMT -5
Lesnar is at (or near) the point where the skills he does have, along with his pure athletic gifts (not just the power, but also the speed) will make it more difficult for people to exploit his shortcomings.
I think everyone would agree Brock is still prone to even an average submission fighter, let alone a guy of Nogueira or Mir's ability. But the problem is that Brock is getting better at using his wrestling, striking, and strength to make it harder for someone to "catch" him. I think the loss to Mir taught him a valuable lesson about positioning too, because he left that leg wide open for Mir... practically giftwrapped it for him. Against Herring and Couture, you could see Brock was paying a lot more attention to his positioning.
It's at the point now where Brock has established himself as almost impossible to take down, a pretty difficult guy to keep up with on the ground if he's on top (bottom is still a ?), and hard to go toe to toe with. He's not a great boxer, but he's fast enough to connect, and strong enough to put someone's lights out with relatively few good punches. That's enough to win fights.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Nov 16, 2008 16:58:34 GMT -5
That match was incredible. i watched it at buffalo wild wings last night, it was awesome. The majority of people though was behind couture.
The fact that Lesnar gets so tired so fact kept scaring me, and Couture looked like his tank was on full till the end.
There were times when they were on the ground when i thought it was over, but Lesnar deffinitly showed the fact hat he improved his ground game. He was too strong to Randy lock in a submission, and He learned how to get out of situations and back on top.
Lesnar is definitly a force to be reckoned with.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 16, 2008 17:01:08 GMT -5
Man, what an awesome PPV last night!! So damn glad Brock won, just like I knew he would. I had total faith in Brock's ability to win. However, it scared the hell out of me because I had thought by the end of the 1st round, that Brock was gassed. That's what it appeared to me anyway.
And then Brock proved to be too big and too strong for Randy and pounded him until referee Mario Yamazaki had no other choice but to step in and stop the fight.
Alot of other good fights like the Gurgel fight and the Bocek fight were great, as well as the Florian/Joe "Daddy" fight too.
Can't wait until next month's UFC event. Should be awesome!! And here's to Brock Lesnar for capturing the REAL UFC Heavyweight championship!! Well done Brock, you deserve it.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Nov 16, 2008 17:07:26 GMT -5
I figured this win would get Brock a little respect from the so-called real mma fans that are on alot of chat broads, but some try to think that he is now less legit then before the fight. Now Randy is just some 45 year old guy who hasn't had a fight in over a year and shouldn't have been in a fight with a guy that big and not Randy Couture one of the best mma fighters in the sports history. But what can you expect of people just started really watching UFC maybe in the last two or three years but says they have been watching since UFC 1 and only hate on Brock for being a former pro wrestler. It's the whole pro wrestling thing, it really is. It drives some people insane to think that any former pro wrestler might actually be legit enough to compete in MMA. I don't know why people get so livid at the idea, but they do. It doesn't fit into their cookie-cutter idea of all pro wrestlers as jokes, frauds, and laughing stocks. When they're confronted with the idea that they might owe a former WWE champion a little respect as an athlete, it breaks their brains. They just can't process it. Thats so true its rediculous. Im a Junior in high school, and The UFC fad came and went where everyone was in Tapout gear, having fightnights and bullcrap. Its still around, but nowhere as big as last year. TBH, UFC runied streetfighting because now if most people get into fights, they think they know UFC and Jui Jitsu and now you gotta look out for more when fighting. I know i had to go through BS like that last year when some queer tried slammed me and tried to ground and pound. But anyways yeah with that UFC fad, they all think WWE is garbage, fake athletes, and now one of WWE's best has now taken over UFC. Now comes the people like already, who say so what, he fought an old guy? Well guess what he stopmed that old guy cuz he had what Brock wanted. Its just a matter of who had the belt. Brock want belt, Brock get belt. so whens Brock's next fight? |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 16, 2008 17:12:14 GMT -5
^ Brock's next fight will probably be in March or April of next year and it will be against either Nogueira or Frank Mir.
So, he's got alot of time to train and get ready for it. And I'm sure he'll be more than ready for either of them by that point.
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