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Post by BV on Aug 9, 2009 0:34:40 GMT -5
Hey, I've seen better guys go down to short punches. It just means Silva has serious KO power. You better be acting sarcastic....
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 9, 2009 0:37:05 GMT -5
Well, maybe not "Serious" KO power, but it does certainly mean that he has SOME power in his hands.
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Post by K Dot on Aug 9, 2009 0:40:55 GMT -5
Yeah Silva does. Griffin was moving forward on him and Silva put that punch up. Doesn't matter if he was backing up because Griffin was going towards him. Like seriously, to all you guys who thought Silva didn't actually hurt him, what's your excuse for what happened?
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Post by BV on Aug 9, 2009 0:46:21 GMT -5
Yeah Silva does. Griffin was moving forward on him and Silva put that punch up. Doesn't matter if he was backing up because Griffin was going towards him. Like seriously, to all you guys who thought Silva didn't actually hurt him, what's your excuse for what happened? Silva DOESN'T have serious punch power.. if he did, he would have knocked Griffin out, he DIDN'T. Griffin just gave up, after that hit, that hit was barely anything compared to some of the hits Griffin has took and got up from. Even Rampage couldn't KO Griffin, yet Silva does..? Doesn't add up at all.
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Post by K Dot on Aug 9, 2009 0:49:00 GMT -5
Yeah Silva does. Griffin was moving forward on him and Silva put that punch up. Doesn't matter if he was backing up because Griffin was going towards him. Like seriously, to all you guys who thought Silva didn't actually hurt him, what's your excuse for what happened? Silva DOESN'T have serious punch power.. if he did, he would have knocked Griffin out, he DIDN'T. Griffin just gave up, after that hit, that hit was barely anything compared to some of the hits Griffin has took and got up from. Even Rampage couldn't KO Griffin, yet Silva does..? Doesn't add up at all. Silva doens't have punch power? Okay, have you seen any other fights of his. Maybe in that punch he didn't have the most power but he does have punch power. Griffin lost probably because he knew he wasn't gonna win and was flat out embarrased by Silva. Silva taunted him so much and Griffin probably couldn't take it. Plus don't tell me ANYONE could have serious punch power while backing up.
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Post by *Stunna* on Aug 9, 2009 0:50:05 GMT -5
NOW tell me how the heck does......Silva vs. Forrest get fight of the night that is crap Dana White.....it was one of the worst fights i ever saw thats garbage!
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Post by BV on Aug 9, 2009 0:53:28 GMT -5
Silva DOESN'T have serious punch power.. if he did, he would have knocked Griffin out, he DIDN'T. Griffin just gave up, after that hit, that hit was barely anything compared to some of the hits Griffin has took and got up from. Even Rampage couldn't KO Griffin, yet Silva does..? Doesn't add up at all. Silva doens't have punch power? Okay, have you seen any other fights of his. Maybe in that punch he didn't have the most power but he does have punch power. Griffin lost probably because he knew he wasn't gonna win and was flat out embarrased by Silva. Silva taunted him so much and Griffin probably couldn't take it. Look at Silva vs Irvin, Silva caught his kick and had a straight punch at Irvin, and only took him down with it, didn't KO, and took a good 7 punches to finish him. Yet one of those week ones to Forrest and it's out. Forrest isn't intellectually- disabled, why would he just give up like that if Silva was making him look stupid. Silva has done the same exact stuff before..
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Post by K Dot on Aug 9, 2009 0:54:13 GMT -5
Silva doens't have punch power? Okay, have you seen any other fights of his. Maybe in that punch he didn't have the most power but he does have punch power. Griffin lost probably because he knew he wasn't gonna win and was flat out embarrased by Silva. Silva taunted him so much and Griffin probably couldn't take it. Look at Silva vs Irvin, Silva caught his kick and had a straight punch at Irvin, and only took him down with it, didn't KO, and took a good 7 punches to finish him. Yet one of those week ones to Forrest and it's out. Forrest isn't intellectually- disabled, why would he just give up like that if Silva was making him look stupid. Silva has done the same exact stuff before.. So then what's your excuse that he just ran his ass off like a little bitch
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Post by BV on Aug 9, 2009 0:58:35 GMT -5
Look at Silva vs Irvin, Silva caught his kick and had a straight punch at Irvin, and only took him down with it, didn't KO, and took a good 7 punches to finish him. Yet one of those week ones to Forrest and it's out. Forrest isn't intellectually- disabled, why would he just give up like that if Silva was making him look stupid. Silva has done the same exact stuff before.. So then what's your excuse that he just ran his ass off like a little bitch His chin was exploding I guess from Silva's VICIOUS DEADLY PUNCH lol.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Aug 9, 2009 1:02:49 GMT -5
Guess Mr Old School's 'feeling' was off for this PPV then.. What are you talking about brother? I was picking Penn and Silva the whole time. LOL. ;D Nah man, you are right and so was everyone else. I got a great BIG piece of humble pie coming my way, that's for sure!! My "feeling" was certainly WAY, WAY, off tonight, there's no doubt about that. Man, Forrest got killed. He was done for since the start more or less. He didn't stand a chance really. I have a new-found respect for Anderson Silva's striking power. He's ing deadly and certainly deserves to stay in Light-Heavyweight or at least toggle between divisions for as long as possible or until someone from Light-Heavyweight knocks him off his perch. And Florian was more or less outclassed as well. He thought he was ready, I thought he was ready, but B.J. Penn just isn`t ready to drop his belt yet. It was pretty much complete domination by Penn the whole way through. Ken-Flo didn`t have any answers for B.J. tonight, that`s for sure. I didn`t really see any other fights because I was at a wedding, so I`m not sure how everyone else did. Anyway, my hat is off to Anderson Silva and B.J. Penn for putting on dominant performances and proving exactly how good they truly are. Congrats to both of them.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Aug 9, 2009 1:07:30 GMT -5
Reporter: "Dana, where's Forrest?" Dana: "He's probably in Georgia by now"
Ouch.
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Post by *Stunna* on Aug 9, 2009 1:11:28 GMT -5
Reporter: "Dana, where's Forrest?" Dana: "He's probably in Georgia by now" Ouch. haha yeah man that just doesn't seem like forrest
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2009 1:24:35 GMT -5
I'm not going to go around and say there was conspiracy. But you have to admit there is something not quite right with the fact griffin who lasted and took rampage for 5 rounds. Much harder hits. Infact he was hit HARDER during the fight then the one that KO'd him was knocked out by a back ward jab.
I'm still pretty new to UFC as a whole, and a griffin fan but it just didn't see like forrest. So willingly ready to give up . The PPV left a sour taste in my mouth after that fight anyway.
None the less i really hope he bounces back and can try re-claim the title
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Post by NYdream™ on Aug 9, 2009 1:25:23 GMT -5
Ok uhhm drop all this bullcrap saying Forrest threw it. He didnt throw it Anderson just caught him like any other fighter who catches their opponent. Anderson is just very good at making people look bad at standup and catching them...
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Aug 9, 2009 1:25:52 GMT -5
Reporter: "Dana, where's Forrest?" Dana: "He's probably in Georgia by now" Ouch. Yeah, that's pretty funny man. He certainly didn't feel like staying around, that's for sure. He took his beating and ran off. Man, what a smoke-show that was. Just a one-sided ass-whooping. The fight arguably could've been stopped after Silva dropped Forrest the first time. He was rocked then too. He didn't last too much longer after that. I feel bad for Forrest. I mean, all that hard training he put into the fight and it was basically all for nothing. I wonder who, if anyone, at Light-Heavyweight will be the man to finally stop Anderson Silva....Lots of great fighters in that division and it looks like its only a matter of time before Anderson tears his way through that division as well.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Aug 9, 2009 1:28:54 GMT -5
Too bad he won't fight Machida. That would be a great fight.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Aug 9, 2009 1:33:59 GMT -5
Reporter: "Dana, where's Forrest?" Dana: "He's probably in Georgia by now" Ouch. haha yeah man that just doesn't seem like forrest He did the exact same thing after Keith Jardine embarrassed him a couple years ago. He threw a temper tantrum and ran to the dressing room. I like Forrest, but to me, that's a sign of a guy that doesn't have *complete* mental toughness. Maybe it's insecurity, or maybe he's just really hyper-sensitive to being beaten, or maybe he's immature or something. Whatever it is, it's happened more than once. It seems as though Griffin can be mentally broken, under the right circumstances. As for why Anderson's jab was the final blow, I think people are reading too much into it. We don't know what condition Griffin was in when that jab landed. Silva could have hurt him badly enough with the earlier punches that Griffin only needed one last jab to be finished. Maybe Griffin broke an orbital bone or something. Maybe Silva's toying with him (in between dodging his punches) mentally defeated Griffin, and he knew it, so he figured he was a sitting duck. I also think it's funny to see people starting to argue that Griffin has an awesome chin, and when Jardine or Evans is brought up, the argument changes to "well, Silva doesn't have punching power." It just seems like people are fishing for reasons to discredit a truly awesome win by Silva over Griffin. My friends, if Keith Jardine can TKO Griffin, so can Anderson Silva. And that's not a knock on Jardine, but come on... people make it sound like it's impossible for a fighter of Silva's skill to knock out a fighter with Griffin's chin. Like we've never seen Griffin get TKO'ed by fighters with less technical striking ability than Anderson freaking Silva. Which brings me to another point: If Griffin was hurt by Silva's earlier punches, a really good jab right on "the button" might be all it took, because technique matters. Silva has great technique (watch the slo-mo of him dodging Griffin twice and then tagging him on a backpedal). Ask anyone that's trained boxing or kickboxing, and they'll tell you that if you hit a guy in just the right spot, it doesn't necessarily have to be a sledgehammer shot to KO the guy. A perfectly-placed fist doesn't have to be super powerful, especially if the opponent has already been rocked two times in a 3-minute span.
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Post by Sam Hain on Aug 9, 2009 1:40:02 GMT -5
Ok, go to youtube right now before they take it down and watch the knock out again. Griffin gave up, he was not knocked out. Watch it really closely and you can see what appears to be Forrest taking his mouth guard out as he hits the ground, thus throwing in the towel.
I am so sick and tired of Forrest "The Cry Baby" Griffin. He had a great fight in TUF1 finals and has been over hyped since then. I'm not saying he's not a good fighter, but he's immature and shows no respect to his opponents. How many fights has he won and his opponent had to stand there and watch him get his hand raised. He didn't have the class to give Silva his moment. That was pure bullshit.
I know a lot of people are going to say that whole line again about how Forrest is just an emotional guy, but that's bs. He's a little whiny cry baby who runs away rather than staying around and respecting his opponent.
RUN, FORREST! RUN!
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 9, 2009 1:42:48 GMT -5
Reporter: "Dana, where's Forrest?" Dana: "He's probably in Georgia by now" Ouch. Yeah, that's pretty funny man. He certainly didn't feel like staying around, that's for sure. He took his beating and ran off. Man, what a smoke-show that was. Just a one-sided ass-whooping. The fight arguably could've been stopped after Silva dropped Forrest the first time. He was rocked then too. He didn't last too much longer after that. I feel bad for Forrest. I mean, all that hard training he put into the fight and it was basically all for nothing. I wonder who, if anyone, at Light-Heavyweight will be the man to finally stop Anderson Silva....Lots of great fighters in that division and it looks like its only a matter of time before Anderson tears his way through that division as well. Anderson doesn't belong at Light-Heavyweight and should stay at his own damn weight division.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Aug 9, 2009 1:47:19 GMT -5
Ok, go to youtube right now before they take it down and watch the knock out again. Griffin gave up, he was not knocked out. Watch it really closely and you can see what appears to be Forrest taking his mouth guard out as he hits the ground, thus throwing in the towel. Yeah, I was thinking the only thing keeping his method of loss a KO instead of a submission due to strikes was the fact that Griffin didn't actually tap out or (that we know of) verbally give up. But his actions sure seemed more like a submission than a TKO. Then again, I guess if you BEHAVE like you've given up, but haven't ACTUALLY given up (via the universally accepted tapout or verbal submission), then you're forcing the referee to call the fight off, which is technically a TKO.
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