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Post by bobsfedder on Jan 5, 2010 8:16:43 GMT -5
I thought the crowd got annoying. Its not ROH or ECW. The whole crowd chanting concept is old. TNA's crowd sucks. Where old ECW crowds seemed to enhance the matches, the wrestlers, and the segments, TNA crowds seem to serve no purpose other than to put themselves over. I suppose that's what you get for filming in a soundstage, but it's terrible. Most of the same people have been attending TNA shows for years; they're bound to get bored with the event and entertain themselves with their own chants. The "Who needs Bret?" chant was beyond stupid too. It devalues the entire match because instead of cheering for the guys in the ring, you're chanting against someone in a different ring, and in a different company. Seriously look at these fans
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Post by LeighD on Jan 5, 2010 8:32:21 GMT -5
Overall, I loved iMPACT better than RAW, even though I thought Bret's segment were great and I am excited to see where they go with Bre vs. Vince (even though I had a good idea).
I was excited to see surprise appearances/returns in TNA; I was excited to see Hogan boasting about the new talent TNA has; I was excited about the main event. However I wasn't too psyched to see the 'nWo.' There are two stables wrestlign has run into the ground, one is DX and the other is the nWo.
While TNA NEEDED established and powerful names to draw in new fans, they didn't capitalize on the younger, newer talent to mix with those big names. If the big names being signed and brought in do not understand that their sole job is to put over new talent and draw in lost and new fans, TNA will be headed downhill quickly.
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Post by squaredcircleactionfigs on Jan 5, 2010 8:43:34 GMT -5
TNA's crowd sucks. Where old ECW crowds seemed to enhance the matches, the wrestlers, and the segments, TNA crowds seem to serve no purpose other than to put themselves over. I suppose that's what you get for filming in a soundstage, but it's terrible. Most of the same people have been attending TNA shows for years; they're bound to get bored with the event and entertain themselves with their own chants. The "Who needs Bret?" chant was beyond stupid too. It devalues the entire match because instead of cheering for the guys in the ring, you're chanting against someone in a different ring, and in a different company. Seriously look at these fans I did not say the TNA crowd is exactly like the ECW crowd. ECW, both the crowd and product were extremely unique and you may never be able to mimic the sheer energy of those shows ever again. Why do you believe the crowd chanting concept is old? The crowd chanting concept is not old. What do you expect the crowd to do? It baffles me people would argue against having a small energetic crowd which chants. I think most people here argue for the sake of arguing. Which is okay but gets old. I do agree the TNA crowd Bret chant was a little overboard but they had a great Styles - Angle chant. I also like the TNA chant. Also, every time Styles or Angle performed a difficult move there was a huge pop. I am not sure how this would be considered "trying to get over". The Sandman return is great and I think it proves if anything there are similar crowd elements. Once again, I never proclaimed the crowds are the same. I only believe the TNA crowd has taken certain elements from past ECW crowds and I think it enhances the programming.
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Post by shivothecat on Jan 5, 2010 9:02:17 GMT -5
They had me, a person that hasn't watched wrestling in a few years week to week. To watching their show specifically (and I hated TNA) to now..wanting to watch each and every episode to see how things work out. That is not failing at all. And thats you man. Check this out, In the beginning of the TNA show. What was one thing the fans said they want from TNA? WRESTLING. They got Angle/Styles out of a 3 hr show. Thats not wrestling. People tuned tonight to see WRESTLING. They got backstage segment after backstage segment, then a commercial and then another backstage segment. Builds shows? That builds SHYEET. You sound like Allen Iverson
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 5, 2010 9:22:28 GMT -5
Angle/Styles was HORRIBLE... how can anyone call that ADD spotfest a 4 1/2 star match? It was just 20 minutes of kicking out of finishers and Angle using the ankle lock WITHOUT ACTUALLY WEARING DOWN THE ANKLE.
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Post by Hedgehulk on Jan 5, 2010 9:51:57 GMT -5
Both shows were very lackluster. TNA reminded me a lot of WCW during it's last few weeks. It was very confusing and too much talking! They should change thier name to Total Non-stop Talking! WWE was just as boring as it has been for the last year.
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Post by Rant Casey on Jan 5, 2010 11:09:25 GMT -5
I'm watching the rest of Impact right now, and I'll give them credit for putting on a good match with Wolfe and Pope, I wish it was longer, but for the time it had the match was quite good.
I'd love for TNA to give me a few reasons that make me want to watch them and not just read spoilers, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.
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Post by fautbox on Jan 5, 2010 11:41:04 GMT -5
Last night was interesting. Good things went down on both shows. I'm totally a sucker for nostalgia, and I'm the first to admit it. To say I wasn't waiting in anticipation for weeks at the thought of Bret Hart on TV again was an understatement. Like many of you, I was back and forth between TNA and WWE, because let's face it, for the past few years, there really has been nothing that has made my jaw drop in wrestling. Now, to clarify, my jaw did not drop last night, but I was sitting on the edge of my seat to see where they went with Bret. And, on the flip side, I was also aching to see what Hogan, Hall and Waltman had to offer. Also, Bischoff is just plain excellent, I don't care what anyone says, he is awesome. As far as what went down, it was expected that Michaels and Hart would have a meeting of sorts, and it went down well. Good to see. The rest of RAW was lackluster for me. I love Orton, so any chance at having him on the show is good. The rest, however was sub-par. The only reason I was tuned in at all was to see Bret Hart. That's it. iMPACT! however, had some draws. Exciting to see familiar faces. The main event was ridiculous. Loved it. However, the randomness of some appearances was a deterrent. Orlando Jordan? I mean, I know he's Hogan's friend and all, but come on... Nasty Boys? Seriously? The lack of homegrown kinda sucked, but like a few of you've said, it was about drawing the crowd last night, and with big names, they sure did. Also, on a small personal note, the Pope is awesome. I loved his promo. That's all I have to say about that.
Overall, exciting night. Good to see some old faces. The draw had me watching all night, so I guess it worked.
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Post by Oskanowski on Jan 5, 2010 11:43:14 GMT -5
Last night was both just awesome way to start off 2010. If this is going to be a war between the companys, they both did an excellent job being Live and starting off a war. WWE having Bret Hart return is good, makes a story start. TNA with all it's returns makes it look like good competition to WWE, I think TNA is going to have plenty of story lines coming up.
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Post by bobsfedder on Jan 5, 2010 12:05:33 GMT -5
Their is no war, it was a battle. This we are going back into routine, tna tapings on thursday, WWE dominates the week. I still like TNA how-ever last night was teh sloppy
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Post by BlackSwagger on Jan 5, 2010 12:14:09 GMT -5
I enjoyed TNA last night for it's complete randomness. That's it. As soon as another old guy showed up I would laugh like a little kid, then change back to RAW. A million commercials plus 65% backstage drama/promos doesn't make a good show. There was no wrestling other than the main event, although Earl Hebner kept giving away the false victories with his trade mark slow-jerking-third count.
RAW is definitely a more polished product. I only had gripes w/ Hornswoggle, Michael Cole, and the Sheamus v Bourne squash match.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 5, 2010 14:23:32 GMT -5
TNA wasn't all that great. If you enjoyed it then I'm glad for you, but for me it was just okay at best. Hogan needs to realize you need to crawl before you can run. He should have waited a couple of months before going head to head.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 5, 2010 14:45:47 GMT -5
I thought RAW was just like any other RAW show, but this time with Bret Hart there too, and iMPACT was a total mess and TNA trying too hard.
TNA did bring in a lot of new faces (well, OLD faces), but to be honest none of them surprise me because TNA takes whoever they can get their hands on. In conclusion, I still don't care about TNA that much more than I did before. And as for WWE, I don't care about that much more than I did before either. I was hoping for a bit more of a shake-up in both companies for 2010, but I guess I'm wanting too much to change too drastically.
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Post by HugoOne on Jan 5, 2010 15:03:49 GMT -5
Here's the thing. What TNA did right and wrong was AJ vs. Angle. They gave a great match away on free TV, and after seeing it, I have no desire to see the match again in a couple weeks on PPV.
Other than that, the main focus is the original nWo (minus DiBiase) taking down Foley? Pass.
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Post by alexgg on Jan 5, 2010 16:45:45 GMT -5
To me... TNA sounded terrible.
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Post by Brankind on Jan 5, 2010 16:58:40 GMT -5
yeah , I should watch TNA follow WCW's playbook of using old washed up WWE guys like Scott Hall, Ric Flair , Hulk Hogan , The Nasty Boys, Val Venis and Orlando Jones. NOPE. Bret vs Shawn was too epic not to miss. That was one of the best moments in wrestling in the century to date.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jan 5, 2010 17:33:33 GMT -5
As I said in the Raw thread...Raw was too little too late, and Impact was too much too soon.
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 5, 2010 17:46:48 GMT -5
I thought TNA was a horrible cluster with a nostalgia tour that will not last too long and get stale very quick. There was basically no emphasis on new talent and the ones who were there...basically its gonna go downhill fast. Sums it up perfectly
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Post by gravedigger3 on Jan 5, 2010 17:57:10 GMT -5
The only thing from TNA i liked was the a.j angle match and i didnt evemn see the finish who won?
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Post by Wrestlaholic on Jan 5, 2010 18:00:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry... I like Bret Hart & all and I'm glad he's back, but TNA totally killed them tonight. I freakin' LOVE the idea of Bischoff using Hall, Nash and X-Pac as his henchmen. Another thing, seeing Angle/AJ giving it everything they've got... then to flip the channel and see Randy Orton have Kofi Kingston in a headlock really sealed the deal for me. It's just boring to me. It's called wrestling - what do you expect?
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