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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 20:35:17 GMT -5
The fact Orton has multiple World title reigns and Ken has zero just goes to show how much better Orton is.. maybe if Ken could stay healthy long enough to get a fan base or get a lot of heat, he'd be a former or current WWE World Champ, but the guy can't even do that. For the last ing time, that logic says that Orton is better than everybody who had no world titles... Mr. Perfect, Ted Dibiase, Owen Hart, Jake Roberts, Rick Rude, those guys are by FAR superior to Orton. And be my guest locking this, I've wasted too much time arguing with sheep who can't put up a good debate other than "Well, WWE pushed him and he has a number of world titles." Just cause he has a finishing move that can come out of nowhere doesn't mean he's a better wrestler either. But whatever, I'm done. He must be the current flavor of the month here, since he just turned face and all. If I said this while he was in robot mode a couple of months ago, nobody would be saying sh*t.
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Post by Joey Cush on Mar 30, 2010 20:36:50 GMT -5
The fact Orton has multiple World title reigns and Ken has zero just goes to show how much better Orton is.. maybe if Ken could stay healthy long enough to get a fan base or get a lot of heat, he'd be a former or current WWE World Champ, but the guy can't even do that. For the last ing time, that logic says that Orton is better than everybody who had no world titles... Mr. Perfect, Ted Dibiase, Owen Hart, Jake Roberts, Rick Rude, those guys are by FAR superior to Orton. And be my guest locking this, I've wasted too much time arguing with sheep who can't put up a good debate other than "Well, WWE pushed him and he has a number of world titles." Just cause he has a finishing move that can come out of nowhere doesn't mean he's a better wrestler either. But whatever, I'm done. He must be the current flavor of the month here, since he just turned face and all. If I said this while he was in robot mode a couple of months ago, nobody would be saying sh*t. Read sean's post and then for the love of God, SHUT THE UP.
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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 20:39:47 GMT -5
For the last ing time, that logic says that Orton is better than everybody who had no world titles... Mr. Perfect, Ted Dibiase, Owen Hart, Jake Roberts, Rick Rude, those guys are by FAR superior to Orton. And be my guest locking this, I've wasted too much time arguing with sheep who can't put up a good debate other than "Well, WWE pushed him and he has a number of world titles." Just cause he has a finishing move that can come out of nowhere doesn't mean he's a better wrestler either. But whatever, I'm done. He must be the current flavor of the month here, since he just turned face and all. If I said this while he was in robot mode a couple of months ago, nobody would be saying sh*t. Read sean's post and then for the love of God, SHUT THE UP. I read it and I respectively disagree
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Post by AdamBomb on Mar 30, 2010 20:40:47 GMT -5
Read sean's post and then for the love of God, SHUT THE UP. I read it and I respectively disagree Point counter-point it then. Please.
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Post by Joey Cush on Mar 30, 2010 20:41:17 GMT -5
Read sean's post and then for the love of God, SHUT THE UP. I read it and I respectively disagree Make a write up like that, claiming why Anderson is better than Orton. People may actually begin to 'respect' you.
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Post by Sam Hain on Mar 30, 2010 20:44:27 GMT -5
Wait, when did jsyn come back? Didn't you swear (AGAIN) that you'd never be back?
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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 21:04:41 GMT -5
I read it and I respectively disagree Make a write up like that, claiming why Anderson is better than Orton. People may actually begin to 'respect' you. I thought you wanted me to shut up? And fine.. here goes. Why Mr. Anderson is better than Randy OrtonBy: jSYN:tmigtIn ring ability, moveset, charisma and speed - Mr. Anderson has all of this. He isn't slow in the ring, he doesn't walk his matches by going around stepping on people and making forced facial expressions. Some may say that is Randy Orton's gimmick, and if that's the case.. then his gimmick sucks. Besides, that's irrelevent considering I preferred Anderson over pre-viper Orton anyways. Instead of spending too much time acting like he's constipated, Anderson takes all of the boos out from the crowd and inserts it in the match. If there's a bunch of smarks telling him he's overrated, he plays it into the match. Little things like that are what make his character in TNA better than it was in WWE. He has the freedom to do that, where-as WWE would have been preventing him to do so. A couple of years back, WWE scrapped the "Kennedy Declares" because it was getting too over (according to Vince McMahon). That right there tells me that they WERE preventing this guy from breaking out. They turned him stale and removed all the cool things about him that got him over in the first place, just like they do with almost everybody about to break into the main event. Like I said, Anderson just has a certain charisma that you don't see in wrestling nowadays, it's a different charisma to Orton's. Orton infact, has none of it. He talks slow, he walks slow, he wrestles slow and there's just overall nothing exciting about him. Some people say he is the best in the business, well... I fail to see it. His ring skills are medicore, his mic skills are medicore and let's face it, he doesn't really have a unique look either. He's your generic cookie cutter guy that WWE loves, buzz cut, baby oiled, black tights all the time. That is irrelevent, but let's just say this... Anderson's look is more colorful and stands out more. Anderson isn't the greatest wrestler in the world and I'm not saying that, but I just don't get how anybody can find Orton's "style" exciting. I think the Green Bay Plunge, the Mic Check and the Kenton Bomb are all better signature moves than the RKO, the Punt and the neck/backbreaker. Mic skills, promos, acting - Yeah, people keep saying that "saying your name twice isn't mic skills". Well look at the current Kurt Angle feud then. He is playing the classic heel, not by talking slowwwly but by being a bastard. Anderson is using a troops medal and cutting Kurt open with it, the next week he's bashing him up with a microphone and then he's imitating him by wearing his own ring attire. That is classic heel stuff and he's getting good reactions out of it. I'd even go as far to say that Mr. Anderson is one of the best heels in the business right now. Anderson changes it up pretty much weekly. He's always doing or saying something different. Orton is about as robotic as it gets, it's like the same thing every week with him. He's not exciting on the mic, he doesn't say anything interesting or funny. The forced facial expressions and "seizures" don't help either... if that's what you guys call "good acting" then I don't know what to say. Look, etc - Like I said above, Anderson just stands out more, terrible tattoos or not. He also has cooler t-shirts... and a hotter wife. And with there's not much more I can say.
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Post by King Silva on Mar 30, 2010 21:20:29 GMT -5
Orton is so cool. He is 1,000 times better than Mr. Kennedy opps I mean Mr. Anderson.. His speech at the end was really nice.
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Post by Danny on Mar 30, 2010 21:30:00 GMT -5
Orton > Kennnedy. Period.
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Mar 30, 2010 21:44:36 GMT -5
Read sean's post and then for the love of God, SHUT THE UP. I read it and I respectively disagree Respectfully, douche.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Mar 30, 2010 21:50:57 GMT -5
I like Mr. Anderson better, TBH.
Orton is getting old.
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Post by dmkp0wer on Mar 30, 2010 21:51:59 GMT -5
I personally think Orton stands out fine, as do plenty of other people. Orton has a distinguishable look, albeit similar to others in the past. I don't see how Kennedy changes it up because he changes the colors of his tights every now and again. So? Orton used to wear purple, he's had orange and black tights, he's had black and gold tights, he's had black and silver tights. Orton's changed it up over the years as well. Besides, his look is working perfectly for him and he has a credible main event star look to him. Haven't you heard the phrase, if it isn't broken, don't fix it? Tons of people here haven't heard it. They're actually suggesting that Anderson should change the gimmick that got him known in the first place. Orton has nothing unique about him. His finisher is a KICK. He wears black tights, doesn't stand out and has un-tolerable promos. Atleast Anderson has a good finisher and moves... you know, fast in the ring. Yeah, Anderson is the better wrestler in my eyes and nothing here will change that, FYI and thanks. Austin says hello.
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Post by thegenius on Mar 30, 2010 22:00:52 GMT -5
Tons of people here haven't heard it. They're actually suggesting that Anderson should change the gimmick that got him known in the first place. Orton has nothing unique about him. His finisher is a KICK. He wears black tights, doesn't stand out and has un-tolerable promos. Atleast Anderson has a good finisher and moves... you know, fast in the ring. Yeah, Anderson is the better wrestler in my eyes and nothing here will change that, FYI and thanks. Austin says hello. Austin's attire was bland, but thankfully, his character and ring skill made up for it. Orton literally has nothing to make up for it in my eyes.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Mar 30, 2010 22:07:07 GMT -5
Does it matter?
Kennedy is in TNA being an afterthought of wrestling and Orton is taking HBK's spot as one of the top babyfaces in the company.
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Post by AdamBomb on Mar 30, 2010 22:08:39 GMT -5
Austin says hello. Austin's attire was bland, but thankfully, his character and ring skill made up for it. Orton literally has nothing to make up for it in my eyes. You have a few million disagreeing with you, in the eyes of the "WWE Universe" - if he was as bad as you say he is, he wouldn't be one of the top stars.
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Post by dmkp0wer on Mar 30, 2010 22:10:46 GMT -5
Austin says hello. Austin's attire was bland, but thankfully, his character and ring skill made up for it. Orton literally has nothing to make up for it in my eyes. "Anyone that knows me knows that I only have 3 offensive moves..." - Austin. Change your diapers. Having this amount of responses, it must be getting you all wet. IT'S WRESTLING, f***, do you get your period everytime you hear someone talk negative about your favorite wrestler? Sigh, we always succumb to jsyn's erratic posts
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Mar 30, 2010 22:11:12 GMT -5
Austin's attire was bland, but thankfully, his character and ring skill made up for it. Orton literally has nothing to make up for it in my eyes. You have a few million disagreeing with you, in the eyes of the "WWE Universe" - if he was as bad as you say he is, he wouldn't be one of the top stars. Isn't the 'WWE Universe' a bunch of 8 year olds who apparently aren't old enough to see blood on TV.
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Post by Joey Cush on Mar 30, 2010 22:12:29 GMT -5
I'd love to read jsyn's rant on why Anderson is better but its so clogged up and mushed together, it will give me a headache.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2010 22:13:12 GMT -5
I thought when JSYN left he admitted he was a trolling gimmick poster?
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Post by AdamBomb on Mar 30, 2010 22:17:50 GMT -5
You have a few million disagreeing with you, in the eyes of the "WWE Universe" - if he was as bad as you say he is, he wouldn't be one of the top stars. Isn't the 'WWE Universe' a bunch of 8 year olds who apparently aren't old enough to see blood on TV. ...no, that's an umbrella term for the WWE's fans. Don't ask me why, because I don't know.
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