T1
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Post by T1 on May 30, 2010 0:07:23 GMT -5
Hitler. Not for the Holocaust but for the long term things he did for the country of Germany. He took a country that was poor and handcuffed by a treaty that prevented any building of an army and cut the nations size down. He turned that country into an industrial powerhouse and expanded the nations borders by any means necissary. He also started the precursor of things many nations embrace to this day such as Public Healthcare. Now I fully anticipate that a lot of people are going to point at this part of my post as particularly offensive but other than the Holocaust part of Hitler's reign he was a smart man who turned an entire nation around and endeared himself to many. There were people who were willing to die for the man. That's impact. People view Hitler as one of the worst people in history yet Stalin also killed hundreds of thousands of people and his vengeance knew no boundaries. He killed because he could. ANYWAYS other historical heroes I have include the likes of Mozart, John A Macdonald, Alexander Graham Bell and The Buddha While Hitler certainly revamped a Versailles-torn Germany, he didn't single-handedly transform Germany into a world superpower. That honor goes to Bismarck. It was Bismarck who turned Germany from a collection of 39 nation-states into an industrial juggernaut in the late 20th century. By 1900, Germany was already an industrial powerhouse. Obviously the provisions of Versailles ed Germany up and Hitler deserves some credit for getting Germany back on its feet, but I believe if you're going to give credit to a power-hungry German, Bismarck deserves the honor WAY WAY more than Hitler. Bismarck had everything: balls, cunning, etc. He used some trechery and deceit and ultimately made Germany a force to be reckoned with long before Hitler did. If it weren't for Wilhelm II being a complete ing dumbass, Hitler would have never had a platform to seize power in the first place.
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hitman1072
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Post by hitman1072 on May 30, 2010 15:49:35 GMT -5
John F. Kennedy. That's really all I can think of at the moment. He was seriously one of the best presidents the US has ever had. By doing what exactly?
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Post by sonstuds on May 30, 2010 16:31:53 GMT -5
John F. Kennedy. That's really all I can think of at the moment. He was seriously one of the best presidents the US has ever had. By doing what exactly? Marilyn Monroe.
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Post by S on May 30, 2010 18:20:10 GMT -5
Hitler. Not for the Holocaust but for the long term things he did for the country of Germany. He took a country that was poor and handcuffed by a treaty that prevented any building of an army and cut the nations size down. He turned that country into an industrial powerhouse and expanded the nations borders by any means necissary. He also started the precursor of things many nations embrace to this day such as Public Healthcare. Now I fully anticipate that a lot of people are going to point at this part of my post as particularly offensive but other than the Holocaust part of Hitler's reign he was a smart man who turned an entire nation around and endeared himself to many. There were people who were willing to die for the man. That's impact. People view Hitler as one of the worst people in history yet Stalin also killed hundreds of thousands of people and his vengeance knew no boundaries. He killed because he could. ANYWAYS other historical heroes I have include the likes of Mozart, John A Macdonald, Alexander Graham Bell and The Buddha I won't flame you, but a big amount of what he did good came out of his bad... for example the rise in industry was fueled alot by the exploitation of others if i remember right? Anyway, Beethoven
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 19:26:33 GMT -5
Richard Wagner, Billy Hughes and Simpson's Donkey.
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