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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:43:26 GMT -5
Look at that PRESCRIPTION. Jeff may need to take 8-10 Vicodin a day, so the 262 would be less than a month's worht. the average human being would overdose after taking 10 vicodins in one day. there is no way he was legally prescribed that much. You build up a tolerance and the doctor prescribes even more. I know it happens. The doctor even makes you take a urine test every month to make sure you are actually taking that amount and not faking and just selling it. Happened to family members of mine and Jeff takes a much harder toll on his body than they do. So I can fully see how he has that amount of Vicodin. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:45:17 GMT -5
If it was a substantial amount of coke, they would have put an amount, so it must not have been really anything. Look at that PRESCRIPTION. Jeff may need to take 8-10 Vicodin a day, so the 262 would be less than a month's worht. Drug paraphernalia could be anything including needles which would make sense since he had steroids. He would need to inject them somehow. If you use drugs in your house, just living there could be the dwelling charge. I seriously doubt that Jeff has a house just for drug use and then another house for him to live in. I love how you mention the drugs and make them seem so minimal and like its not worth mentioning but the opium which is a felony charge you choose to overlook. What did I overlook? I mentioned all the drugs you posted about. I said PRESCRIPTION with the Vicodin and Soma's. I mentioned the steroids and the coke. What drug did I miss? |
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Post by theryanegan on Dec 31, 2010 15:46:46 GMT -5
Something tells me that, if Jeff was able to produce a prescription stating that he needs 262 vicodins, he wouldn't have been charged.
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:47:19 GMT -5
They have come out and said he is going to plead guilty? Because what I read in here was that it was some news report and that his girlfriend has said the news report was wrong. North Carolina newspaper The Pilot reports that TNA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Hardy will enter a negotiated plea 1/20, according to his attorney, James Van Camp."We anticipate a resolution of this matter in January," Van Camp said earlier this month at an administrative session of Moore County Superior Court. Moore County District Attorney Maureen Krueger said that Hardy will plead guilty to one or more of the charges he faces. Krueger did not disclose details of the state's plea offer but said it will include a sentencing arrangement. The Pilot reports that the plea would have to be approved by the court. A judge may refuse to accept a plea arrangement involving a negotiated sentence. Thank you. I don't know why his girlfriend would say it is a lie then. Obviously he would have to plead guilty to at least one charge. What a stupid statement. Yes, more could include all of them, but I'd think they would have said all charges if he was going to plead guilty to all charges. So we have to speculate which charge or charges he will not plead guilty to. |
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Post by theryanegan on Dec 31, 2010 15:48:34 GMT -5
North Carolina newspaper The Pilot reports that TNA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Hardy will enter a negotiated plea 1/20, according to his attorney, James Van Camp."We anticipate a resolution of this matter in January," Van Camp said earlier this month at an administrative session of Moore County Superior Court. Moore County District Attorney Maureen Krueger said that Hardy will plead guilty to one or more of the charges he faces. Krueger did not disclose details of the state's plea offer but said it will include a sentencing arrangement. The Pilot reports that the plea would have to be approved by the court. A judge may refuse to accept a plea arrangement involving a negotiated sentence. Thank you. I don't know why his girlfriend would say it is a lie then. Obviously he would have to plead guilty to at least one charge. What a stupid statement. Yes, more could include all of them, but I'd think they would have said all charges if he was going to plead guilty to all charges. So we have to speculate which charge or charges he will not plead guilty to. Umm, his lawyer said they were expecting a resolution to this matter in January. That means everything. |
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:52:02 GMT -5
I love how you mention the drugs and make them seem so minimal and like its not worth mentioning but the opium which is a felony charge you choose to overlook. What did I overlook? I mentioned all the drugs you posted about. I said PRESCRIPTION with the Vicodin and Soma's. I mentioned the steroids and the coke. What drug did I miss? Wow..... The opium charge I dont know how many times I have to say it. So just incase you miss that again its the OPIUM charge the FELONY POSSESSION OF OPIUM!!!! MORE THAN FOUR GRAMS OF OPIUM!!!! |
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:53:18 GMT -5
Thank you. I don't know why his girlfriend would say it is a lie then. Obviously he would have to plead guilty to at least one charge. What a stupid statement. Yes, more could include all of them, but I'd think they would have said all charges if he was going to plead guilty to all charges. So we have to speculate which charge or charges he will not plead guilty to. Umm, his lawyer said they were expecting a resolution to this matter in January. That means everything. Unless they say he will plead guilty to all charges, we don't know. He could plead guilty to 3 charges and get the other 2 dropped, that would resolve the matter in January. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:55:43 GMT -5
What did I overlook? I mentioned all the drugs you posted about. I said PRESCRIPTION with the Vicodin and Soma's. I mentioned the steroids and the coke. What drug did I miss? Wow..... The opium charge I dont know how many times I have to say it. So just incase you miss that again its the OPIUM charge the FELONY POSSESSION OF OPIUM!!!! MORE THAN FOUR GRAMS OF OPIUM!!!! "262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 soma prescription pills, 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine and drug paraphernalia" That is what you posted. You NEVER posted opium in that. You said he had an opium charge, but you did not list opium with the stuff they found. You said he has a charge for opium, but opium was not in the list of stuff they found that you posted. |
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 15:56:36 GMT -5
Unless they say he will plead guilty to all charges, we don't know. He could plead guilty to 3 charges and get the other 2 dropped, that would resolve the matter in January. It doesnt resolve anything if the judge wont allow the plea. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 15:59:44 GMT -5
Unless they say he will plead guilty to all charges, we don't know. He could plead guilty to 3 charges and get the other 2 dropped, that would resolve the matter in January. It doesnt resolve anything if the judge wont allow the plea. He could want to plead guilty to all charges and then plead guilty to kidnapping the Lindbergh baby, it doesn't matter unless the judge signs off on it. You are right that the judge has to allow the plea, but just because he pleads guilty to it all does not mean the judge will allow it. |
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 16:01:06 GMT -5
Yes, Jeff may just be the biggest junkie in the world. What I have read is that Jeff received a package that had drugs in it and then he was busted. Do we even know if it was legit? It could all be entrapment for all we know. He was originally arrested on September 11, 2009, when police found 262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 soma prescription pills, 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine and drug paraphernalia after a search of his house. He was indicted on January 4, 2010. He faces five felonies, a misdemeanor charge and a conspiracy charge. His charges include: - Felony possession of cocaine - Felony drug trafficking of opium- Felony possession with intent to redistribute a Schedule III drug (two counts) - Maintaining a dwelling for drug use and/or distribution - Possession of drug paraphernalia (misdemeanor) - Conspiracy to traffic opium for trafficking four or more grams but less than fourteen grams of opium/heroin.Page 7 on this board I havent changed a thing or modified the original post. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 16:03:41 GMT -5
He was originally arrested on September 11, 2009, when police found 262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 soma prescription pills, 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine and drug paraphernalia after a search of his house. He was indicted on January 4, 2010. He faces five felonies, a misdemeanor charge and a conspiracy charge. His charges include: - Felony possession of cocaine - Felony drug trafficking of opium- Felony possession with intent to redistribute a Schedule III drug (two counts) - Maintaining a dwelling for drug use and/or distribution - Possession of drug paraphernalia (misdemeanor) - Conspiracy to traffic opium for trafficking four or more grams but less than fourteen grams of opium/heroin.Page 7 on this board I havent changed a thing or modified the original post. Again, opium is not listed with the stuff they found. So unless Vicodin or whatever other drug listed can be classed as opium, they/you/whoever did not list opium in the list of stuff the police found. I addressed everything that they found. |
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 16:15:38 GMT -5
Again, opium is not listed with the stuff they found. So unless Vicodin or whatever other drug listed can be classed as opium, they/you/whoever did not list opium in the list of stuff the police found. I addressed everything that they found. You know you state that the cocaine was probably nothing because they didnt have how much he had was listed but in the charges he is being prosecuted it states that he had more than 4 grams of opium but that means they didnt find any in his house. Seriously?!?!?! Oh wait you still think some of these charges are trumped up... |
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 16:18:54 GMT -5
Again, opium is not listed with the stuff they found. So unless Vicodin or whatever other drug listed can be classed as opium, they/you/whoever did not list opium in the list of stuff the police found. I addressed everything that they found. You know you state that the cocaine was probably nothing because they didnt have how much he had was listed but in the charges he is being prosecuted it states that he had more than 4 grams of opium but that means they didnt find any in his house. Seriously?!?!?! Oh wait you still think some of these charges are trumped up... Residual amount does not equate to a whole hell of a lot unless in drug laws residual means something different than it means elsewhere. If it was more than 4 grams but less than 14 (or whatever number it was) why didn't they specify the amount in the list of stuff they found? If they can be exact with the number of pills he got, why can't they be specific about the amount of coke he had? I did not say that I believe that they faked all these charges, I just said that it was entirely possible that something happened. |
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Post by Gazza on Dec 31, 2010 16:44:35 GMT -5
But to say its a bogus charge and your fine to break the said law because you think it's not right, is utter stupid. If someone though the murder law was stupid, so he went and out and murdered someone. Would that be a bogus charge? No it wouldn't. Obviously murder is not ok, because you are harming someone else. That law is completely justifiable. We should not just accept things the way they are and sit down and let these things take over our lives. We do need to stand up and fight. We cannot let unjust laws go on. I know that, But my point is, just because you don't think a law is wrong, it doesn't mean you can break it, and get away with it. If you think the law about Jeffs drugs is wrong, then thats fair enough. But the charge isn't bogus when he has broken the law. It's nothing to do with common sense, it's to do with the law. Like it or not, The law is what it is, and you have to go along with it or pay the consequences. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 31, 2010 16:51:49 GMT -5
Obviously murder is not ok, because you are harming someone else. That law is completely justifiable. We should not just accept things the way they are and sit down and let these things take over our lives. We do need to stand up and fight. We cannot let unjust laws go on. I know that, But my point is, just because you don't think a law is wrong, it doesn't mean you can break it, and get away with it. If you think the law about Jeffs drugs is wrong, then thats fair enough. But the charge isn't bogus when he has broken the law. It's nothing to do with common sense, it's to do with the law. Like it or not, The law is what it is, and you have to go along with it or pay the consequences.Does that go for every law or just certain laws? |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 31, 2010 20:43:43 GMT -5
I know that, But my point is, just because you don't think a law is wrong, it doesn't mean you can break it, and get away with it. If you think the law about Jeffs drugs is wrong, then thats fair enough. But the charge isn't bogus when he has broken the law. It's nothing to do with common sense, it's to do with the law. Like it or not, The law is what it is, and you have to go along with it or pay the consequences.Does that go for every law or just certain laws? Well...I freely admit that I was singing in the bathtub today and I live in PA. Come  ing arrest me.  |
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Post by Seahorse on Dec 31, 2010 21:35:25 GMT -5
Does that go for every law or just certain laws? Well...I freely admit that I was singing in the bathtub today and I live in PA. Come ing arrest me. Come on, you're comparing serious issues to archaic laws that nobody cares about. |
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Post by kojak on Dec 31, 2010 22:01:44 GMT -5
Well...I freely admit that I was singing in the bathtub today and I live in PA. Come ing arrest me. "There is a ban on men becoming aroused in public." PA Law So we should go ahead and arrest you for that as well because I guarantee its happened to men more than once. Your state has dumb laws so if you decide that you want to break the law, hey by all means go ahead but if you do get cited or arrested dont go complaining about being cited for a law you know was enforced. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Dec 31, 2010 22:09:03 GMT -5
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