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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 6, 2011 22:43:12 GMT -5
I could very easily die if I crashed wearing a seat belt. See, here's my problem. People act like the laws of seatbelt wearing were made due to some theory and fear mongering. It's proven that they make you more safe, despite what you think or feel. Can you easily die while wearing one? Sure. You can die while walking on the sidewalk too. Doesn't mean you starting walking in the middle of the street to get where you have to go. Seat belt laws are also laws that make grown up, personal decisions for you, rather than allow you to make them for yourself - and those are the most dangerous laws to a free society. |
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Post by joker123 on Jul 6, 2011 23:06:00 GMT -5
See, here's my problem. People act like the laws of seatbelt wearing were made due to some theory and fear mongering. It's proven that they make you more safe, despite what you think or feel. Can you easily die while wearing one? Sure. You can die while walking on the sidewalk too. Doesn't mean you starting walking in the middle of the street to get where you have to go. Seat belt laws are also laws that make grown up, personal decisions for you, rather than allow you to make them for yourself - and those are the most dangerous laws to a free society. Yeah, cos they prevent people from dying. They stop people from making the wrong choice. |
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Post by Mole on Jul 6, 2011 23:26:55 GMT -5
Seat belt laws are also laws that make grown up, personal decisions for you, rather than allow you to make them for yourself - and those are the most dangerous laws to a free society. Yeah, cos they prevent people from dying. They stop people from making the wrong choice. SYE's point is that it sets (or, in reality's case, continues) a precedent that it's the government's job to protect its citizens, even including protecting them from themselves. The law is unnecessary. If you need a law to make sure you take an extra step that lowers your risk of death in the event of an automobile accident, there's a problem, and I'm not convinced the solution is making it a law. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jul 6, 2011 23:28:49 GMT -5
See, here's my problem. People act like the laws of seatbelt wearing were made due to some theory and fear mongering. It's proven that they make you more safe, despite what you think or feel. Can you easily die while wearing one? Sure. You can die while walking on the sidewalk too. Doesn't mean you starting walking in the middle of the street to get where you have to go. Seat belt laws are also laws that make grown up, personal decisions for you, rather than allow you to make them for yourself - and those are the most dangerous laws to a free society. I understand that. I'm not one to submit my freedom in place of more "safety" either. But in the case of the seatbelt law, we're dealing with an absolute truth here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 0:13:56 GMT -5
I have wore one ever since my parents and grandparents told me too. Their has to be not one day that has gone by I haven't worn my seatbelt.
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Post by machoking on Jul 7, 2011 0:59:38 GMT -5
Serious question.......... Can anyone tell me WHY they wouldn't wear a seat belt? Only thing I can think of is if you're too fat and it's uncomfortable. Stupidity!! That's the only reason. My 6'6'' 400lbs (at the time) best friend got into the passenger seat of my car (2001 Mercury Cougar) and the first thing he did was buckle up. There is no excuse and honestly when I read about a death because someone didnt buckle up, I personally lose a little sympathy for that person. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 4:25:29 GMT -5
Depends on the distance, I do a lot of 1 minute trips transporting stuff from my house to where the horses are (which is just up the hill from my house), so I don't put it on then.
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Post by Revvie® on Jul 7, 2011 5:17:03 GMT -5
Seat belt laws are also laws that make grown up, personal decisions for you, rather than allow you to make them for yourself - and those are the most dangerous laws to a free society. I understand that. I'm not one to submit my freedom in place of more "safety" either. But in the case of the seatbelt law, we're dealing with an absolute truth here.I dont necessarily believe in the idea of "absolute truths"...but since I figure most people use it as more of a figure of speech, I wont bother defining that further BUT.... you have to define is the truth worth making a law over. Then draw forth what kind of hypocrisy your laws are bringing forth. Its the idea that your allowed to drink yourself to death, smoke yourself to death, perform feats that could possibly kill you, but you must wear a seat belt? All government laws have hypocritical layers but when it involves such individual freedoms, you have to have some knowledge that ya it might be safer but we do unsafe things that are legal all the time, what makes this any different.....nothing more then the fact that they can fine you for it most of the time. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 7, 2011 7:51:36 GMT -5
Seat belt laws are also laws that make grown up, personal decisions for you, rather than allow you to make them for yourself - and those are the most dangerous laws to a free society. Yeah, cos they prevent people from dying. They stop people from making the wrong choice. Okay - so while we're at it, let's pass some more legislation and outlaw fast food, smoking, alcoholic consumption, candy, soda, and artificial sweeteners. After all, all these things are currently choices made by individuals that have all been proven to have some form of adverse effect on the human health condition. Submitting to a law stating that you are required to wear a seat belt opens to you up to a government that can one day tell you what you can eat and what you can drink. I hope none of you who live stateside and agree with these infringements on your rights were out waving your red white and blues and shooting off your fireworks this past Monday. |
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Post by K5 on Jul 7, 2011 9:14:52 GMT -5
they're absolutely necessary.
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Post by K5 on Jul 7, 2011 9:17:52 GMT -5
as far as the laws implemented surrounding them, orson welles' 1984 comes quickly to mind.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 7, 2011 14:57:33 GMT -5
Click it or ticket. I think it's a good law. There's no reason not to wear a seat belt. I think there are some people who just do not realize how important it is to wear a seat belt. It forces them to be safe. If seat belts were around in the 60's, my Uncle (who I never met) would still be here. R.I.P. Why should we be FORCING people to be safe? Look, I get the concept of wanting people to live, but the bottom line is that it's everyone's choice. If we wanted to get down to whether things are "safe" or not, then everyone should be forced to drive 15mph at most. I wear my seat belt everywhere I go. Even if it's backing up in my driveway and never even going into the street. ... But I believe that individuals have the right to do what they want with their own safety, so long as it does not harm another person. |
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Post by [MJH] on Jul 7, 2011 19:28:26 GMT -5
seatbelts dont only protect the people wearing them, if you're in the back you can easily harm the driver or passenger by not wearing a seatbelt, as far as I see it it's the driver's rules, whenever someone's in my car, everybody wears a seatbelt, if you don't wear one when you're driving fine but you add risk not only to yourself but to others and for that reason I can understand whey there's a law.
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Post by joker123 on Jul 7, 2011 20:58:19 GMT -5
For anyone saying, "oh it's okay because it only hurts yourself" watch this advert.
I know it's only an advert, but the possibility of it happening is very real.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 7, 2011 22:41:04 GMT -5
Click it or ticket. I think it's a good law. There's no reason not to wear a seat belt. I think there are some people who just do not realize how important it is to wear a seat belt. It forces them to be safe. If seat belts were around in the 60's, my Uncle (who I never met) would still be here. R.I.P. Look, I get the concept of wanting people to live, but the bottom line is that it's everyone's choice. If we wanted to get down to whether things are "safe" or not, then everyone should be forced to drive 15mph at most. I wear my seat belt everywhere I go. Even if it's backing up in my driveway and never even going into the street. ... But I believe that individuals have the right to do what they want with their own safety, so long as it does not harm another person. I don't know. But I feel it's necessary to protect people from their own ignorance. Why is it illegal to snort cocaine? |
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