Mike33PA
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Post by Mike33PA on Jul 12, 2011 17:06:20 GMT -5
Obviously not. If he has no knowledge about baseball why the  would he? He even explained the entire being a Underdog then changing into the Dynasty.. I thought it was pretty easy to understand. "Hi I'm John" thank you very much... |
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1amgr8ness
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Post by 1amgr8ness on Jul 12, 2011 18:54:17 GMT -5
I thought the segment was self explanatory. ...Unless you're from the UK... Did you even read the questioning post?  |
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Post by LtD73 on Jul 12, 2011 18:57:46 GMT -5
To the people saying how can you not know about the yankees and red sox etc. Im from the UK, baseball does not air over here so how am i supposed to know about their rivalry, i don't go looking up sports that don't air over here, i can't even name a player from either team.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 12, 2011 19:00:23 GMT -5
To the people saying how can you not know about the yankees and red sox etc. Im from the UK, baseball does not air over here so how am i supposed to know about their rivalry, i don't go looking up sports that don't air over here, i can't even name a player from either team. Dont feel bad, I live in the U.S. and I dont know anything about football (soccer). I have heard of Pele and that's about it. lol. |
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Post by highland1983 on Jul 12, 2011 19:10:12 GMT -5
So I just finished watching raw and in Punk/Cenas back and forth at the end of the show, Punk was name dropping baseball teams....being as i'm from the UK i have no idea what the hell he was going on about, So can someone clear it up for me please and why Cena hit him for being called the Yankees  |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 12, 2011 19:13:50 GMT -5
Punk's promo was, how I would guess, the majority of the "outside world," being the non AL East fans or residents of the North Eastern US, view the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. As was mentioned, the Sox sold off Ruth to the Yankees, and the Yankees haven't stopped winning, while the Sox failed to capture a Championship until 2004. Now with Red Sox Nation, and Boston grabbing another World Series in 2007, the once under dog Boston Red Sox are a mirror image of the Yankee Machine that they despised for so many years. Essentially, if the Yankees, the Evil Empire, are Darth Vader, and the Boston Red Sox were Luke Skywalker, Luke turned to the dark side and is now battling Vader for supremacy of the Galaxy (hopes you have seen Star Wars so that makes sense). Now as a Chicago Cub fan, born and raised in Central Illinois, or an outsider to the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry, I look at Red Sox fan's exactly how Punk described John Cena. They believe they are still the under dog, but in reality when they won again in 2007 they became just like Yankees fans, and their collective sports teams as a city have created a dynasty. So no longer is a Boston team the under dog, in any situation, and no longer is John Cena the rapper with a big chain. John Cena, like the city of Boston, is a champion of the highest caliber. Punk called John Cena, using the city of Boston as analogy, a hypocrite of the highest degree. Since moving to South Florida, with the abundance of North Easterners from New York, Jersey, and Massachusetts, I have discovered first hand that they don't really know other teams exist outside of their AL East bubble. Which, if you go a little more than surface deep with the analogy, is probably how CM Punk feels, like an outsider. If John Cena is the Red Sox, and lets say Orton is the Yankees, and Vince is the owner of both Evil Empires, CM Punk is a Chicago Cub fan standing on the outside going " both you guys, we haven't won a World Series since 1908 and it's my time." As a baseball fan, sports fan, wrestling fan, and certainly a CM Punk fan, I really thought it was a layers deep analogy that fans could relate to and ended up being brilliant imo. The Yankees have won a championship more recently than the Red Sox and are still the favorites to win it all this year. The Yankees have won 27 championships, what does that have to do with anything I said? |
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 12, 2011 19:23:21 GMT -5
OP was from UK so i understand the confusion but seriously the confusion of some people in the raw live post last night made me realize a lot of you kids gotta wake up from wrestling once in a while and watch a real sport, as much as there is athleticism involved in wwe, its all a storyline made up show and is by no means a sports turn on a damn football or baseball game once in a while for crying out loud Lol, I'm with you. I can understand why people from the UK don't know anything about baseball, but it's a little disconcerting that Americans were confused by the promo. All you have to know is that the Yanks and Sox are the biggest rivals in American sports to understand the promo. |
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jul 12, 2011 19:30:11 GMT -5
It's quite strange how different the norm sport is for people on here. Being from the UK the normal thing for me is Football (the real one  ) Yet quite often I see sigs or people post about American football, baseball, basketball and it seems alien to me. Whilst I did find the promo to be near enough self explanatory/ easy to understand. The references used went over my head. It's amazing how some people find it difficult to understand that us from the UK know little about your sports (can any Americanite name me 5 Everton players without looking it up?) And while I like how Captain Adminica has tried to argue... I hate Cricket. |
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 12, 2011 19:32:36 GMT -5
It's quite strange how different the norm sport is for people on here. Being from the UK the normal thing for me is Football (the real one ) Yet quite often I see sigs or people post about American football, baseball, basketball and it seems alien to me. Whilst I did find the promo to be near enough self explanatory/ easy to understand. The references used went over my head. It's amazing how some people find it difficult to understand that us from the UK know little about your sports (can any Americanite name me 5 Everton players without looking it up?)And while I like how Captain Adminica has tried to argue... I hate Cricket. Tim Howard, Mikel Arteta, Yobo, Leighton Baines, Yakubu |
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jul 12, 2011 19:35:18 GMT -5
It's quite strange how different the norm sport is for people on here. Being from the UK the normal thing for me is Football (the real one ) Yet quite often I see sigs or people post about American football, baseball, basketball and it seems alien to me. Whilst I did find the promo to be near enough self explanatory/ easy to understand. The references used went over my head. It's amazing how some people find it difficult to understand that us from the UK know little about your sports (can any Americanite name me 5 Everton players without looking it up?)And while I like how Captain Adminica has tried to argue... I hate Cricket. Tim Howard, Mikel Arteta, Joseph Yobo, Leighton Baines, Yakubu Fair play. |
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 12, 2011 19:36:34 GMT -5
Tim Howard, Mikel Arteta, Joseph Yobo, Leighton Baines, Yakubu Fair play. Well, I think that's pretty good for an "Americanite" considering Everton isn't even a premier team in the EPL. |
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jul 12, 2011 19:38:31 GMT -5
Fair play. Well, I think that's pretty good for an "Americanite" considering Everton isn't even a premier team in the EPL. They are to me.  |
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 12, 2011 19:40:31 GMT -5
Well, I think that's pretty good for an "Americanite" considering Everton isn't even a premier team in the EPL. They are to me. Ha, well don't get me wrong. I'm more of a fan of International competitions when it comes to soccer, but I support Everton in the EPL because of Howard. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jul 12, 2011 19:43:17 GMT -5
Enough to know who rivals of soccer are over there and who the main players I.E. teams are without actually liking the sport. Did you just compare cricket to baseball? Sure. Why not. Surely you realize that cricket has a very large international following. I'm pretty sure that more people follow cricket than baseball. Members/Countries of the International Cricket Council: 105(most of whom don't play on the world level) Members in the International Baseball Federation: 118(all of whom qualify to play on the world level, but rarely make the tournament) |
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jul 12, 2011 19:44:19 GMT -5
They are to me. Ha, well don't get me wrong. I'm more of a fan of International competitions when it comes to soccer, but I support Everton in the EPL because of Howard. I have noticed how Americans will support an English team because of a player from their own country. Some clubs even sign players to get a bigger fanbase in places such as China. It is nice to have an American"ite" following because of old Timmy.  |
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Jul 12, 2011 19:55:53 GMT -5
Ha, well don't get me wrong. I'm more of a fan of International competitions when it comes to soccer, but I support Everton in the EPL because of Howard. I have noticed how Americans will support an English team because of a player from their own country. Some clubs even sign players to get a bigger fanbase in places such as China. It is nice to have an American"ite" following because of old Timmy. Absolutely, I'm hoping Donovan goes back over on loan at some point. |
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jul 12, 2011 20:07:21 GMT -5
I have noticed how Americans will support an English team because of a player from their own country. Some clubs even sign players to get a bigger fanbase in places such as China. It is nice to have an American"ite" following because of old Timmy. Absolutely, I'm hoping Donovan goes back over on loan at some point. Yeah he was outstanding when he came, shame it was so short and his age as well as price for us isn't worth it for a transfer. We tried to get him on loan this year but he didn't want to come. (There was a rumour he had a kid with some random lady the first time he came but it wasn't a very credible story.) |
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Post by rustywio123 on Jul 12, 2011 21:24:12 GMT -5
a big mistake was punk saying the patriots were an underdog, clearlyyyy not true lol
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Post by T R W on Jul 12, 2011 21:37:47 GMT -5
a big mistake was punk saying the patriots were an underdog, clearlyyyy not true lol He was saying that they think they are, but they aren't. They used to be a long time ago, but now they are on top, like Cena. |
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Post by rustywio123 on Jul 12, 2011 21:39:37 GMT -5
a big mistake was punk saying the patriots were an underdog, clearlyyyy not true lol He was saying that they think they are, but they aren't. They used to be a long time ago, but now they are on top, like Cena. pretty sure he just messed up lol, he even paused when he said it knowing he did. |
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