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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 2, 2012 12:46:22 GMT -5
I think people need to talk about the Jets more right now, I mean a teammate called Holmes a "cancer" and LT tore him apart to the media yesterday. Rex doesnt even know Holmes was benched? Seriously? Santonio Holmes reportedly skipped a Jets' quarterback/receivers meeting last Thursday after "questioning" Mark Sanchez on Wednesday. If true, it paints a picture of a dysfunctional locker room, and also raises questions about why coach Rex Ryan didn't intervene and discipline his "star" receiver. If he had, perhaps Holmes' ugly Sunday performance, which led to his benching by WRs coach Henry Ellard and a public dressing-down from LaDainian Tomlinson, may have never happened. Of Holmes, a teammate told the New York Daily News' Manish Mehta Monday that "he's a cancer," and "it's like dealing with a 10 year old." What a scumbag, then again, this couldnt have happened to a better team/coach/player ![:)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/smiley.gif) And Bart Scott told the media to ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) off on the way out today!
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Post by doogle on Jan 2, 2012 12:48:12 GMT -5
I'd believe everything about Holmes being an bunghole when he doesn't make a catch he immediately tries to get the ref to throw a flag...EVERY ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ING TIME
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Post by doogle on Jan 2, 2012 12:51:33 GMT -5
Bart Scott is another thug too...I've never seen him not late hit someone.
Jets are a bunch of thugs
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Post by captain master talbot on Jan 2, 2012 12:55:38 GMT -5
Its so great seeing their season end in a fiery blaze of just shameful defeat and fingerpointing and crying.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Jan 2, 2012 13:31:41 GMT -5
i won the crapty wf league
meh
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Post by Tim Tebow™ on Jan 2, 2012 13:37:22 GMT -5
I think people need to talk about the Jets more right now, I mean a teammate called Holmes a "cancer" and LT tore him apart to the media yesterday. Rex doesnt even know Holmes was benched? Seriously? Santonio Holmes reportedly skipped a Jets' quarterback/receivers meeting last Thursday after "questioning" Mark Sanchez on Wednesday. If true, it paints a picture of a dysfunctional locker room, and also raises questions about why coach Rex Ryan didn't intervene and discipline his "star" receiver. If he had, perhaps Holmes' ugly Sunday performance, which led to his benching by WRs coach Henry Ellard and a public dressing-down from LaDainian Tomlinson, may have never happened. Of Holmes, a teammate told the New York Daily News' Manish Mehta Monday that "he's a cancer," and "it's like dealing with a 10 year old." What a scumbag, then again, this couldnt have happened to a better team/coach/player ![:)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/smiley.gif) And Bart Scott told the media to ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) off on the way out today! Sexy Rexy was too busy stalking Belichick to do anything
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 2, 2012 15:01:39 GMT -5
I had a feeling the Jets organization was going to implode eventually. Rex Ryan tried to downplay everything this season and now, its all getting ugly. So many questions for the Jets team, including futures for Holmes, Sanchez, Scott, their OC, LT and maybe even Rex Ryan for letting all this happen.
It's like a TV drama series!
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 2, 2012 15:02:18 GMT -5
I'm sick and tired of you being a blind Tony Romo dick rider, you're blatantly ignoring the fact that ALMOST EVERY QUARTERBACK WITH A CRAPPY DEFENSE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE EXACT SAME THING! The Giants gave up 31 points in that Week 14 game, that's ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing inexcusable as well. Eli still came back and scored 15 points in 3 minutes, AND WITH 52 SECONDS LEFT THEY STILL LET ROMO DRIVE DOWN THE FIELD! How ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing disgusting is that? First of all, I don't think anyone would disagree that Rodgers, Brady and Brees are better QB's than either Manning or Romo. So that should go without saying. I shouldn't need to bring that up. But since you insist on it, yes, those QB's have had it bad. However I think it should also be remembered that as bad as the Packers and Patriots' secondaries have played, they also rank No. 1 and No. 2 in the NFL in interceptions forced. Not that that negates the poor play on defense, but it certainly helps. The Cowboys' secondary is brutally bad AND they force no turnovers. Second, I've done nothing but give Manning props all year, if you actually paid any attention. How many times have I said this is by far his best season? He's playing like a top-5 QB. I've said nothing negative about the guy. I'm not in here calling Romo a top-5 QB. So how, exactly, am I being a "homer?" Romo out-performed Manning in Week 14, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Romo was on fire that night. Eli played well, too, but even a Giants fan would have to admit Romo was better on that specific night. Both teams ran the ball well in Week 14, but Romo's +4 TD/INT ratio to Manning's +1 should have been the difference... If the defense didn't completely choke, that is. Manning out-performed Romo last night. There's nothing Romo could have done? How about make a couple plays down the stretch and put your team on your back, you keep linking the Cowboys defense to Romo, which makes no sense at all..because AS PROVEN, OTHER QUARTERBACKS GO THROUGH WORSE BUT STILL FIGHT THROUGH IT. Bullpoop statistics.. Romo was great in the 4th quarter this year. His QB rating in the 4th quarter was 104.4 with 10 touchdowns and 2 interceptions on the year. He made PLENTY of plays "down the stretch." I'm not saying that Eli Manning didn't make plays down the stretch, too. I'm simply saying that Romo did what he could while his team played pretty mediocre around him in the 4th quarter, repeatedly allowing teams to come back against them all year long. LOL, Victor Cruz didn't start the first 3 games of the season you fool..he had no playing time, just like what you said about Lauren Robinson, According to official stats, Victor Cruz played in every game. So unless every official source is wrong, like CMShowstopper believed about Shonn Green's fumbles last year, then you're wrong. Laurent Robinson didn't even play a snap until Week 3. That's a cold hard fact. And really? Cruz "barely played" in a game he had 110 yards and 2 touchdowns in (Week 3)? ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) off, kid. Hakeem Nicks missed two games on the stat sheet but started one game and left after 5 minutes in the first quarter AND WAS INJURED ALL YEAR, Again, according to every stat sheets, he missed one game (Week 9). I'm not sure where this phantom second game came from, but apparently you imagined it. He caught multiple passes in every game he played in. Must not have been that injured... And which game did he "leave after 5 minutes the first quarter?" Not to mention, if we're going off of *partial* games missed, then Miles Austin missed six games PLUS he missed the second half of the Seattle game. That's the No. 1 WR on the team missing almost half the season... Dez Bryant was also banged up through a lot of the year. Manningham missed 5 games, and started 2 others where he left in the first quarter as well, and one game where he had about 3 snaps, he was hurt all year, go look it up. Again, according to official stats, he only missed 4 full games. Not sure where this extra game you keep talking about is coming from. Which game did Manningham only play 3 snaps in? Which games did he only play the first quarter in? I want actual information, not this blatantly false bullcrap you keep coming up with. Dominek Hixon, one of Eli's trusted targets went on the IR after Week 2 as well. Oh yeah, Domenik Hixon, the No. 4 WR on the team who had 187 yards last year on the year, WHAT A LOSS!!!!!!! That'd be like me complaining about Martellus Bennett missing time. Who the hell cares? He barely sees the field anyway. Eli was without Bradshaw (who) missed 4 games and played hurt all year and Jacobs missed 2 games, he had a patchwork offensive line and was running for his life for more than 14 weeks The Cowboys have one offensive lineman on the team who isn't complete and utter crap. And he's a rookie. Okay? Calm down with this "patchwork offensive line" crap. I understand that some guys got hurt, but the core was there for most of the year. Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs missed less time than Felix Jones and DeMarco Murray, so again, I'm not understanding your argument here. , ELI'S RECEIVERS ALSO DROPPED MORE PASSES THAN THE COWBOYS RECEIVERS DID THIS YEAR! By how many? The actual bottom line is that Romo is a good quarterback who could have done more for his team, and you're just being a typical QB dick riding homer who won't put any blame on his quarterback, he played with a broken rib and punctured ribs, who gives a flying ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ? Eli's been playing with planter fasciatis for 2 years now, never hear about that right? Matter of fact..Romo doesn't even use these injuries as an excuse like you do, which is respectful and I commend him for that. Has a quarterback EVER had as good of stats as Romo did this year and missed the playoffs? I mean that honestly. I don't know. My guess is, probably not. Romo was excellent this year. It might have been the best or second best season of his career... The team just didn't play up to his level. How does a guy throw more than 3x as many touchdowns as he does interceptions and have his team miss the playoffs? It's brutal. You really do not understand how crazy your Romo dick riding is You don't understand how crazy your Romo hate is. He was better than Eli across the board this year and yet you still hate on him because you just can't get beyond him being the Cowboys' quarterback. Just enjoy being in the playoffs, for god's sake. You don't have to sit here and make up crap to try to prove that Eli Manning is a good quarterback. I've been talking him up all season. funny thing about all of this was how you were trying to say the Cowboys had to go through more injuries (JUST ON OFFENSE) than the Giants..there's a statistic that I'll find later showing that no team has suffered more injuries than the Giants this year other than TWO teams in NFL history..You did not miss no where near the play makers that we did this year. NO ING WAY NEARInteresting. I'd like to see this statistic that you completely made up in your head.
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 2, 2012 15:20:22 GMT -5
Alex, every single poster here other than Giants fans hate Eli Manning. I don't hate Eli Manning. I've been critical of him in the past because he has played like crap and his team has carried him. In 2009, he played the best season of his career... He regressed a bit last year, but he surpassed 2009 this year. I have no problem saying Eli Manning is a really good quarterback now. He's come into his own. It's just that this kid continues to say crap that's completely not true and I'm not going to sit around and act like it is. You bring up the turnover ratio, which is legitimate. But how often did opponents know the Giants had to throw the ball? Their run game is pretty much not there. I'm not excusing interceptions, but I watched every single game this year, and Eli's picks weren't inexcusable at all. I'm not even bringing over turnover ratio to bash Manning. He's fine in that category this year. The reason I brought it up is because Romo was EXCELLENT in it this year. Throwing INT's has long been one of the things people have criticized him for and he limited it to 10 INT's on the year. That's impressive when you're tossing 31 touchdowns. Just for the record, Manning threw 31 touchdowns in 2010. But it was accompanied by 25 interceptions. Yet somehow the Giants still won 10 games. With Romo playing great all year 2011, the Cowboys won 8 games. Do you see why I get frustrated when people talk about how much better Eli Manning is than Romo, just because his TEAM wins games? This isn't the Eli of old, and anyone trying to say that or argue that he isn't a top 10, if not top 6 QB this season is just doing so out of a personal bias against the dude. Right now, I'd put him below Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Peyton Manning for sure... And I'd probably still put him below Vick, Rivers, Romo and MAYBE Matt Stafford. So somewhere between 5-9. Definitely top-10. The Giants were tied for the league lead in dropped passes going into Week 17, and I saw Nicks drop 2 TDs in the Skins game. There's your 30th and 31st touchdown. But, it happens. I'm sure Romo had some stupid drops. The Cowboys definitely had some brutal drops this year. I don't think any were on as big of plays as Nicks' drops against the Redskins, though. How many drops did the Giants have on the year, versus the Cowboys? I'm interested in knowing. The difference between the two is that Romo, for a long time, had a solid run game that he could lean on, and that opened up his offense, and let him play a much more balanced game. Hence, less interceptions. I would agree with that, but the Cowboys didn't have a great running game once DeMarco Murray got hurt. Felix had a couple okay games, but the running game dropped off significantly when the rookie went out... Still, Romo threw only one interception in the final 5 weeks of the season combined, with 10 touchdowns. The only thing that matters at this point is that Eli and the Giants won the NFCE and are in the playoffs, and the Cowboys aren't. That's what it comes down to, and I think the Giants are a dangerous team to anybody in the NFC, sans the Saints. Agreed. That really is all that matters. And I'm ass-hurt about it. LoL. And seriously, do you guys really have to go and try and piss Alex off, it's really immature. I know he's arguing like a child for the most part, but you should know better. And Ralpho, I don't like your name so I'm going to call you Angelo. I'm not trying to piss him off. I'm calling him out on his blatant bullcrap. When people say things that are completely not true, I have a problem with that.
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Post by captain master talbot on Jan 2, 2012 15:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by captain master talbot on Jan 2, 2012 15:42:29 GMT -5
And honestly, I think people give Romo sh*t for the same reason they give Eli sh*t. They're just easy to dislike if you're not a fan of the team. He's the Cowboys QB. It's like hating Nazis or Feminists. Everyone does it. Romo played ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing great this season, all injuries considered. I'm still never going to rank him higher than Eli, and I'm sure you'll always have Romo higher than Eli. It's apples to oranges.
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 2, 2012 15:45:45 GMT -5
So realistically, it was pretty close between the two teams. I know the Cowboys dropped at least two passes (Austin, Jones) last night.
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Post by captain master talbot on Jan 2, 2012 15:54:45 GMT -5
Yea, it wasn't as bad as A. Ry suggested, but I think the type of drops that the Giants had kind of took precedence. I still don't forgive Nicks for dropping those 2 TDs against the Skins. Cost me a trip to my ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing fantasy championships.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 2, 2012 16:07:21 GMT -5
I love how EVERYONE says "The Patriots defense sucks so bad they cant win blah blah"
Who has the defense that was DEAD last in yards given up this year? Yards a game? Passing yards given up? Passing yards per game given up?
Oh yeah, the Super Bowl favorite Packers.
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Post by Nash on Jan 2, 2012 16:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by SMTTT! on Jan 2, 2012 16:38:28 GMT -5
Peyton's not going anywhere. I say he stays with the Colts for about 2-3 more seasons at most, they draft Andrew Luck and have Peyton take him under his wing, and when Peyton retires the Colts will basically be set with a new era (i.e. Favre & Rodgers)
At least this, to me, would be the most logical thing to do for the Colts. Peyton is hungry to play and honestly if he comes back healthy next year, expect the Colts to be contenders once again.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 2, 2012 16:47:57 GMT -5
Peyton's not going anywhere. I say he stays with the Colts for about 2-3 more seasons at most, they draft Andrew Luck and have Peyton take him under his wing, and when Peyton retires the Colts will basically be set with a new era (i.e. Favre & Rodgers) At least this, to me, would be the most logical thing to do for the Colts. Peyton is hungry to play and honestly if he comes back healthy next year, expect the Colts to be contenders once again. Doubtful. What else do they have? Wayne and Mathis are gone, their drafting has sucked. They need a total rebuild. Deal Peyton, and start with Luck and go from there.
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Post by T R W on Jan 2, 2012 17:26:34 GMT -5
I feel like I have seen this implosion before with the Jets. Oh yeah, I did. When it was Buddy Ryan coaching. I said a long time ago that he coached just like his dad did, and when they are winning, it works great, but those type of teams can't handle losing, and always end up with bickering, and finger pointing.
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Post by T R W on Jan 2, 2012 17:27:36 GMT -5
Oh.....and
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Post by Greg Weinstein on Jan 2, 2012 17:31:36 GMT -5
I love how EVERYONE says "The Patriots defense sucks so bad they cant win blah blah" Who has the defense that was DEAD last in yards given up this year? Yards a game? Passing yards given up? Passing yards per game given up? Oh yeah, the Super Bowl favorite Packers. Their defense is bad, but their offense is so good that it outweighs the bad and then some. That's why it won't prevent them from winning. That's also why I disagree with everyone who says "defense wins championships". Maybe in the old days, but not now. Just look at all the teams in the playoffs. Especially in the NFC.
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