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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Sept 7, 2011 19:29:27 GMT -5
This is what I know of this. Cesar is pissed and hurt by what Diaz did. Saying he and other team mates paid for flights and hotel rooms in Vegas. Saying it is "100% Diaz' fault, and not Dana Whites fault at all". So that leaves out an injury or wanting time to train.
Secondly Dana spent 15K on flights and hotel rooms just for Diaz. Diaz has not called, texted, or emailed Dana. So he has no idea if Nick was going to no show the fight. So he had to make a decision. It was disrespectful to GSP and Dana and all the fans to do what Nick did.
What Cesar said
“I don’t blame Dana White on this at all. This is a professional company, and Nick is a 28-year-old man. I’ve stuck up for Nick, even when he was wrong before. But he’s let a lot of people down. He’s let his team down. We all bought plane tickets to Vegas. We got hotel rooms booked, paid for. We’ve got all that, and Nick just decided not to go to something he’s supposed to. They’re paying him a lot of money, and in this economy where people don’t have money, he’s blessed. He should be thanking God every night how blessed he is. And instead, he’s not getting on a plane to go to Vegas. I’m extremely disappointed. He’s done a lot of stuff, but this is the worst of it. If I were him, I would be begging Dana White to get my job back and work your way up to a title shot at some point.”
“He’s a great jiu-jitsu guy. He’s a great fighter. I’m saying this because I care deeply about the guy. He’s one of my black belts. But in this situation, he is 100 percent wrong, and he got what he deserved. At this point, I don’t know what I’m going to do with Nick because he’s not only disrespected the sport, he’s disrespected me and himself. There’s a lot of people in this world that work hard and show up to work, and they’re grateful to have the job. And Nick is obviously one of those.”
“I’ve barely slept in the last couple of days, and it’s sickened me. Here’s the opportunity that I’ve worked for for over 10 years, to mold a guy to become the best possible guy, and to show he can be the best guy in the world. And he takes this opportunity and he acts like an immature child about it. It’s disturbing, to say the least. He got what he deserved by not taking this fight. He told everybody he would do whatever it would take to do it, he lobbied for it, and he acts like this. Dana White is 100 percent correct in what he did.”
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 7, 2011 20:44:38 GMT -5
Nick Diaz speaks:
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Post by MuffFuzz on Sept 7, 2011 20:49:53 GMT -5
Seriously? Dude just committed career suicide!
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Post by s13driver on Sept 7, 2011 20:53:47 GMT -5
wow, that explains....absolutely nothing. Sounds to me like he WANTED to get booted from the fight so he could do what he originally wanted to do which is boxing. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 7, 2011 20:57:16 GMT -5
No, he knows he's locked down to a UFC contract and he can't do boxing.
Nick just wants to fight. He'll fight again. He's been skipping media events for years, so this is really a non-issue. You know what you're getting with Nick. He's not some gimmick.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Sept 7, 2011 21:04:24 GMT -5
Good to know it took him 3 days to get to San Fran. He didn't contact anyone (including his trainer or employer) or return their calls or messages, but has time to make a video within 2 hours of getting his fight taken away from him? Blaming everyone else but himself?
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Post by Bartman on Sept 7, 2011 21:35:08 GMT -5
Good to know it took him 3 days to get to San Fran. He didn't contact anyone (including his trainer or employer) or return their calls or messages, but has time to make a video within 2 hours of getting his fight taken away from him? Blaming everyone else but himself? That's what I'm saying. He screwed this opportunity for himself. |
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Post by roddypiper on Sept 7, 2011 22:38:45 GMT -5
Good to know it took him 3 days to get to San Fran. He didn't contact anyone (including his trainer or employer) or return their calls or messages, but has time to make a video within 2 hours of getting his fight taken away from him? Blaming everyone else but himself? Yeah he is an idiot. Blaming everyone else but himself for his mistakes. IF you are so ready to fight you should've shown up to the press confrence man. The vid is titled " Looks like someone did not want me to win" Yeah you. Do not blame anyone else but yourself. |
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Post by Boquest on Sept 7, 2011 22:54:00 GMT -5
Guy is a  ing idiot. ...Its just too bad that the ing idiot is one of the best fighters in the world. |
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Sept 7, 2011 23:40:42 GMT -5
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 7, 2011 23:43:19 GMT -5
I'm not defending Diaz really, but to do this over a press conference is ing stupid. As if having the Primetime show wasn't enough publicity for the fight (which I thought was going to be the best Primetime show they have ever put on), you need him to do this after he's missed a few media appearances before? UFC is scared, homie. |
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Post by bandwagon760 on Sept 8, 2011 0:10:54 GMT -5
Diaz knew what he signed up for, plain and simple. I'm sure Dana didn't call him Sunday and say btw we need u on Tuesday and wednsday for a "beauty pageant", guy is ridiculous and it's not like this is his first fight he had press conferences in strikeforce. Suxx for the fans either way
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Post by Boquest on Sept 8, 2011 0:28:00 GMT -5
James come on, would you take a chance on him if you were Dana? Yes I understand the UFC should have known what they were getting into when they signed the fight, but after a no show like this...come on. Who's to say he no-shows the fight? I know he never has done that before, but who's to say he wont ever? To risk a whole PPV on a character like Diaz, especially after he is already not showing up for agreed upon engagments would be mind blowing. Dana made a risk when he made the fight, things went sour so he quickly changed the fight before its too late. Trying to make excuses for his actions is pathetic, his own mentor isnt backing him up. Whether it's his gimmick, or it's his actual attitude...guy needs to grow up.
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Post by Sonnen on Sept 8, 2011 0:36:21 GMT -5
Boquest, I agree exactly with what you're saying, the UFC is scared? Really James? That's ridiculous.
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 8, 2011 0:39:59 GMT -5
James come on, would you take a chance on him if you were Dana? Yes I understand the UFC should have known what they were getting into when they signed the fight, but after a no show like this...come on. Who's to say he no-shows the fight? I know he never has done that before, but who's to say he wont ever? To risk a whole PPV on a character like Diaz, especially after he is already not showing up for agreed upon engagments would be mind blowing. Dana made a risk when he made the fight, things went sour so he quickly changed the fight before its too late. Trying to make excuses for his actions is pathetic, his own mentor isnt backing him up. Whether it's his gimmick, or it's his actual attitude...guy needs to grow up. What? When has Diaz EVER no-showed a fight? So, because he doesn't like dealing with the media, he's scared of GSP? I agree he needs to look at himself and make some changes to the way he approaches things, but to say he'll bow out to a fight with GSP is ridiculous. He's never done that. Ever. |
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Post by johnmcclane44 on Sept 8, 2011 0:44:20 GMT -5
The fact that he has skipped media events before doesn't really excuse him and give him the right to keep doing it. You're in the main event of a UFC PPV in one of the biggest fights of the year, you show up to whatever the they tell you to show up to. Diaz is a good fighter, and the fight with GSP would have been huge, so Dana took a chance. But if you're not going to have enough drive to show up to a few press conferences when you are in the main event, you don't deserve to be there. He had a chance to turn over a new leaf, become dependable, he blew it, and he doesn't deserve the opportunity. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 8, 2011 0:57:43 GMT -5
He was going to do the Primetime show (which was going to be HUGE), and Dana has always been by the whole notion that "I give the fight the FANS want to see".... no you don't. You know what Diaz does, but he NEVER backs out of a fight. Never has, never will. What "chance" was he taking? Diaz no-showed multiple press conferences, but always showed up to fight, and that's really what this was all about. This was a fight the hardcore fans wanted to see for a long time, and I think even with the Spike TV show itself, it would have gone over HUGE. UFC has hyped up many, many events even without press conferences, so how would this have been any different? You're talking about the same company that gave James ing Toney a fight, and now you're pulling one of the best fighters off a card over a press conference? Once again, DANA: I thought you were about giving the fans what they wanted? |
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Post by Bartman on Sept 8, 2011 1:12:27 GMT -5
Diaz is clearly in the wrong. It's more than just no-showing some press conference. Dana said at the 137 Press Conference that prior to signing the contract to fight GSP, he told Nick Diaz that he'd have to start 'playing the game' a little bit, such as promoting the fight, doing the media stuff, not getting into fights outside the octagon, among other stuff. Diaz looked him in the face and told him he would.
Diaz needs to realize that he's not on some B level show anymore. He's now fighting for the UFC... in the Main Event... against one of their biggest draws in George St-Pierre. Yeah, we get it, you don't like doing the media stuff, but it comes with the territory. It's called being professional. As much as I and everyone else wanted to see this fight, the UFC had every right to replace him. No showing these appearances only show that you're not reliable. So the last thing the UFC, which is a business after all, would possibly want is to have a Champion who is unreliable.
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 8, 2011 1:17:36 GMT -5
He is in the wrong. But, pulling him out of the fight is wayyyyyy too harsh.
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Post by Boquest on Sept 8, 2011 1:19:58 GMT -5
Who's to say he no-shows the fight? I know he never has done that before, but who's to say he wont ever? Read that again. I never said he is going to no-show, nor did I say he has EVER no showed. You nor anyone else is in any spot to say that Diaz will NEVER EVER no show a fight. You just can't trust an individual like him, which he himself proves my point. |
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