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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 25, 2013 20:24:49 GMT -5
I think eventually religion will just fade away, you can notice it today in society. Cause it's stupid. Almost everyone I know that isn't old minded doesn't go to Church. I.e. Everyone at my highschool, about 2/3 of the kids don't even go to the church. Religion isnt going to just "fade away" and even in the far chance that it does none of us will be around to even see it. I havent been to Church in close to 10 years yet I still have my faith. Also the "cause its stupid" comment makes my case of exactly what Ive been saying. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 25, 2013 20:33:51 GMT -5
If I'm handing out pamphlets advocating atheism is that ok?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 20:42:39 GMT -5
I think eventually religion will just fade away, you can notice it today in society. Cause it's stupid. Almost everyone I know that isn't old minded doesn't go to Church. I.e. Everyone at my highschool, about 2/3 of the kids don't even go to the church. Religion isnt going to just "fade away" and even in the far chance that it does none of us will be around to even see it. I havent been to Church in close to 10 years yet I still have my faith. Also the "cause its stupid" comment makes my case of exactly what Ive been saying. There's a difference in keeping your faith and practicing religion. Just because you believe doesn't mean you practice what you preach. You can talk about your faith and your belief in god but at the end of the day do you go to church? Do you pray before sleeping everynight. Just because you can say "I believe in god" doesn't make it relevant in your life unless you constantly think about religion throughout the day. Atheism is becoming more of a thing as time goes on, especially among kids and teenagers who are now being taught the origins of many things through the way of science. When you are taught with evidence like this it makes you question your own faith many times. I'm not sure what I am, but to believe that god created the world with a snap of his fingers over what I've learned about our universe in the ways of history, science, and math I find it hard to believe such a thing as easily as I used to. It seems ignorant to have the the facts in front of your face but yet still believe in a old world storytale. People back then believed in a lot of stupid things, i.e. The Salem Witch Trials but as we advance as people we start to see the wrongs in intelligence as we go on, I'm just saying maybe the same will happen with all these religions as more information with science is exposed as we go on as humans. Not just christianity, but also all world Religions. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 25, 2013 20:43:36 GMT -5
If I'm handing out pamphlets advocating atheism is that ok? -_- Atheism isn't a religion. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 25, 2013 20:59:10 GMT -5
If I'm handing out pamphlets advocating atheism is that ok? -_- Atheism isn't a religion. So, we can hand out pamphlets advocating whatever we want except for religion? Freedom of speech means nothing? |
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Post by Tim of thee on Nov 25, 2013 21:26:51 GMT -5
It's obvious he doesn't believe in basic human rights. His responses have shown that over and over again in this, as well as other, threads.
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 25, 2013 21:32:32 GMT -5
If I'm handing out pamphlets advocating atheism is that ok? -_- Atheism isn't a religion. some people consider it to be a religion |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 25, 2013 23:16:06 GMT -5
-_- Atheism isn't a religion. So, we can hand out pamphlets advocating whatever we want except for religion? Freedom of speech means nothing? Okay, fine. All I simply want is for it to stay out of schools and the government. If people want to believe in talking snakes and resurrections and demons and angels and all that other silly nonsense, more power to them. Just keep all that fairy tale bullsh*t out of our government and education system. Also, you believe in forced vaccinations on children, so you're really not one to talk about human rights. -_- Atheism isn't a religion. some people consider it to be a religion That still doesn't mean it's a religion. |
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Post by StingerSplash on Nov 25, 2013 23:35:20 GMT -5
I think eventually religion will just fade away, you can notice it today in society. Cause it's stupid. Almost everyone I know that isn't old minded doesn't go to Church. I.e. Everyone at my highschool, about 2/3 of the kids don't even go to the church. Not true. While perhaps not as numerous, our generation's Christians (teens) are more passionate and more devout and more committed to Christ. I'm going into ministry, and I'm going to live my life teaching about Christ either here or overseas. It's not going away for me, because I've encountered God's presence and I know it to be real. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 0:03:19 GMT -5
So, you wanna uphold that part of the constitution, but all that freedom of religion and speech garbage can just go right out the window? I made it quite clear that I have no problem with people having a religion. People just need to keep it to themselves. I'm not religious, but why should they have to keep it to themselves? If that's the case, then non religious people would have to keep quiet too. Why can't we all publicly discuss what we believe/don't believe? Freedom to speak about our viewpoints is the only way to learn, grow, evolve intellectually. I'm not saying I ever want people to 'witness' to me, but they can absolutely have a conversation with me about what & why they believe something, if I agree to the conversation. If they do try to 'witness' or publicly proclaim something (protest, or join with others with similar views for public worship), I can easily avoid it. If you limit people's right to public proclamation of religion, what would be next? It starts a domino effect where you wouldn't be allowed to have public political views, or a public opinion on anything at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 0:12:32 GMT -5
So, we can hand out pamphlets advocating whatever we want except for religion? Freedom of speech means nothing? Okay, fine. All I simply want is for it to stay out of schools and the government. If people want to believe in talking snakes and resurrections and demons and angels and all that other silly nonsense, more power to them. Just keep all that fairy tale bullsh*t out of our government and education system. Also, you believe in forced vaccinations on children, so you're really not one to talk about human rights. some people consider it to be a religion That still doesn't mean it's a religion. I may be a little uneducated on the issue, but is it really in public schools right now? As far as I know, they allow time to observe a private moment of silence at times, but that doesn't mean that you have to take that as a religious reference. I have seen some coaches/graduations lead off in prayers…but they'd prob get in trouble if mentioned to someone wouldn't they? As much as I wouldn't want to be part of a prayer when I'm not religious, I wouldn't want people that are religious to not be able to pray if they wanted. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 2:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 26, 2013 3:29:26 GMT -5
So, we can hand out pamphlets advocating whatever we want except for religion? Freedom of speech means nothing? Okay, fine. All I simply want is for it to stay out of schools and the government. If people want to believe in talking snakes and resurrections and demons and angels and all that other silly nonsense, more power to them. Just keep all that fairy tale bullsh*t out of our government and education system. Also, you believe in forced vaccinations on children, so you're really not one to talk about human rights. [\quote] Then you should be happy. That's exactly what we have now. The church and the state are separated and the one does not run the other. You should be happy. Vaccinations promote everyone's health. How is this a human rights violation? Sent from my Nexus 10 using proboards |
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Post by slappy on Nov 26, 2013 3:48:36 GMT -5
Vaccinations promote everyone's health. How is this a human rights violation? Forcing someone to get vaccinated = bad Forcing someone to not have their religion = good |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 26, 2013 8:48:19 GMT -5
Okay, fine. All I simply want is for it to stay out of schools and the government. If people want to believe in talking snakes and resurrections and demons and angels and all that other silly nonsense, more power to them. Just keep all that fairy tale bullsh*t out of our government and education system. Also, you believe in forced vaccinations on children, so you're really not one to talk about human rights. That still doesn't mean it's a religion. I may be a little uneducated on the issue, but is it really in public schools right now? As far as I know, they allow time to observe a private moment of silence at times, but that doesn't mean that you have to take that as a religious reference. I have seen some coaches/graduations lead off in prayers…but they'd prob get in trouble if mentioned to someone wouldn't they?As much as I wouldn't want to be part of a prayer when I'm not religious, I wouldn't want people that are religious to not be able to pray if they wanted. Yeah, they shouldn't be doing that. Okay, fine. All I simply want is for it to stay out of schools and the government. If people want to believe in talking snakes and resurrections and demons and angels and all that other silly nonsense, more power to them. Just keep all that fairy tale bullsh*t out of our government and education system. Also, you believe in forced vaccinations on children, so you're really not one to talk about human rights. [\quote] Then you should be happy. That's exactly what we have now. The church and the state are separated and the one does not run the other. You should be happy. Vaccinations promote everyone's health. How is this a human rights violation? Sent from my Nexus 10 using proboards Some public schools still teach creationism and a lot of religious politicians claim that we are "One nation under god". Also our currency has the statement "In god we trust" and "One nation under god" does not belong in the pledge of allegiance. I'll admit it's better than it used to be but religion has not yet been fully purged from our government and schools. When that happens, then I will be happy. And forcing someone to get vaccinated against their will is most definitely a violation of human rights. |
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Post by slappy on Nov 26, 2013 9:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 26, 2013 9:16:04 GMT -5
Then you should be happy. That's exactly what we have now. The church and the state are separated and the one does not run the other. You should be happy. Vaccinations promote everyone's health. How is this a human rights violation? Sent from my Nexus 10 using proboards Some public schools still teach creationism and a lot of religious politicians claim that we are "One nation under god". Also our currency has the statement "In god we trust" and "One nation under god" does not belong in the pledge of allegiance. I'll admit it's better than it used to be but religion has not yet been fully purged from our government and schools. When that happens, then I will be happy. And forcing someone to get vaccinated against their will is most definitely a violation of human rights. The teaching of creationism in schools is mocked and laughed at by pretty much everyone Christian and otherwise. You don't find anyone really advocating it beyond the fringe nutjobs. In God we trust and One Nation under God have been there forever. Seriously forever. You really find that to affect your life in some way. Do people really look at the national motto and get offended? Seriously? Like I said, you already have what you're advocating. The church does not run the state and vice versa. That's how it should be. The two entities are separate. Not sure what the problem is. You do realize that people running around unvaccinated endanger everyone's health right? So, yeah, in the interests of me not dying from whooping cough or measles, I'll support forced vaccinations. This way I don't die of a preventable disease, you don't die from a preventable disease and no one dies of a preventable disease. That's quite a human rights violation right there. I have no idea how I sleep at night while supporting disease prevention. |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Nov 26, 2013 9:36:45 GMT -5
I will throw my opinion out, and say this as someone who has ZERO religious views. Who honestly gives a shit? Angola is in the right to put a ban on a religion that breeds violence. That can be fact or opinion, but I'll put it in WF terms. You aren't going to  a girl if you think she has Aids, you kick her ass out! Same thing here... " Yeah, you're religion has killed almost as many as Christianity, you're services are no longer needed!" As far as the "leave God out of Merica " goes... Once again, who honestly cares? I don't go into a couch flipping rage when I hear the word " God" of "Jesus" on TV. I definatly don't burn my money because it says God. And if you hate the word on your money by the way, I will gladley take it of your hands! I have two beautiful kids. If they wanted to go to church, I'll let them go. I wont be mad at them becoming religious and talking crapabout old athiest Dad.. I would never push something on or off of someone. Truthfully, for those that let these things bother them that much, need a ing shot of Jameson, and a Marlboro Light, right before a good Tyson punch to the face. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 26, 2013 10:07:07 GMT -5
Some public schools still teach creationism and a lot of religious politicians claim that we are "One nation under god". Also our currency has the statement "In god we trust" and "One nation under god" does not belong in the pledge of allegiance. I'll admit it's better than it used to be but religion has not yet been fully purged from our government and schools. When that happens, then I will be happy. And forcing someone to get vaccinated against their will is most definitely a violation of human rights. The teaching of creationism in schools is mocked and laughed at by pretty much everyone Christian and otherwise. You don't find anyone really advocating it beyond the fringe nutjobs. In God we trust and One Nation under God have been there forever. Seriously forever. You really find that to affect your life in some way. Do people really look at the national motto and get offended? Seriously? Like I said, you already have what you're advocating. The church does not run the state and vice versa. That's how it should be. The two entities are separate. Not sure what the problem is. You do realize that people running around unvaccinated endanger everyone's health right? So, yeah, in the interests of me not dying from whooping cough or measles, I'll support forced vaccinations. This way I don't die of a preventable disease, you don't die from a preventable disease and no one dies of a preventable disease. That's quite a human rights violation right there. I have no idea how I sleep at night while supporting disease prevention. They most certainly have not: Pledge of allegianceUS Department of Treasury Having "In god we trust" as the national motto is not only offensive but it is 100% unconstitutional. And Islam dictates that anyone that does not convert to it must be killed. So that puts me and others in danger as well. |
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Post by Punk on Nov 26, 2013 10:20:13 GMT -5
Inb4 da lock.
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