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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 3, 2014 21:12:35 GMT -5
I can tolerate Roman, infact I actually like him and so does the fans. He could easily but a crossover action movie star. I think he speaks fine and is a hell of a lot better than Cena. Great, just what we need to push another Rock who will leave in a few years when he gets bored of working all the time. Cena is better than Roman in every single way imaginable. Well that's the smart thing to do. Being a movie star is always going to be more valuable then being a pro wrestler. The reason they keep putting the strap back on Cena is because they know he ain't going anywhere. Reigns has already had better matches then John, doesn't matter if he was with The Shield he still had to work. And Roman doesn't play politics and pander, so he is definitely better in my book. |
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Post by rustyy on Jul 3, 2014 21:13:09 GMT -5
I prefer legend killer Orton honestly . Seems you and myself fleet crapped on for being honest about the product. How about you myself and eltorro People love to crap on his matches with Punk and Bryan but they were hardly even matches. The WWE has been protecting him to the point where he hasn't really had a legit match yet. I enjoyed his match with Mark Henry which I don't often say about Henry matches... Both of them were very legit matches. He even went over Punk. |
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Jul 3, 2014 21:13:31 GMT -5
First thing's first: Triple H hates Roman with a passion (kayfabe-wise). Why did he put him into the fatal four way in the first place?
I can tolerate Roman. I like him the least of the Shield but I think he has a solid moveset and does what he can with the promos, obviously not to the extent of Ambrose or Rollins but good nonetheless. But a match with Brock, especially in the main event of Wrestlemania would be an absolute train-wreck. There's no way that'd be good. And I agree Roman needs some time to further develop. Get him comfortable in the role and have him move merch, advertise him outside the wrestling world as a star and such before his rocket lands on the moon. That should take time, especially if he's taking Cena's spot, a position that may not open up for a few years (also, in typing that I realize that may be the problem with Punk's/Bryan's/everyone else's rise to superstardom: Cena just is not giving up that top spot anytime soon and Vince won't give up that position until Cena's gone).
Give us Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose at Wrestlemania, not only will they steal the show but you could establish Reigns as a star right there a lot easier and less painful, by making him the "alpha male" from the Shield.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 3, 2014 21:14:42 GMT -5
People love to crap on his matches with Punk and Bryan but they were hardly even matches. The WWE has been protecting him to the point where he hasn't really had a legit match yet. I enjoyed his match with Mark Henry which I don't often say about Henry matches... Both of them were very legit matches. He even went over Punk. If you say so..... |
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Post by rustyy on Jul 3, 2014 21:15:27 GMT -5
Great, just what we need to push another Rock who will leave in a few years when he gets bored of working all the time. Cena is better than Roman in every single way imaginable. Well that's the smart thing to do. Being a movie star is always going to be more valuable then being a pro wrestler. The reason they keep putting the strap back on Cena is because they know he ain't going anywhere. Reigns has already had better matches then John, doesn't matter if he was with The Shield he still had to work. And Roman doesn't play politics and pander, so he is definitely better in my book. You...You're serious? Then he can piss off now and leave for Hollywood before he wastes Vince's time. He has had better matches than John Cena? Name one, literally one. Roman can't play politics, he's been on the roster for like 2 years, he's disposable. He will pander, wait till he gets his monster push. You're high if you think he's keeping this stupid silent badass character. What do you mean it wasn't a legit match? |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 3, 2014 21:20:11 GMT -5
You...You're serious? Then he can piss off now and leave for Hollywood before he wastes Vince's time. He has had better matches than John Cena? Name one, literally one. Roman can't play politics, he's been on the roster for like 2 years, he's disposable. He will pander, wait till he gets his monster push. You're high if you think he's keeping this stupid silent badass character. What do you mean it wasn't a legit match? How would he be wasting Vince's time. He could be a draw for a couple of years before he leaves. His matches with the Wyatts, Usos, Rhodes and Dust. Cena's top matches he has been the broomstick to a better worker. Watch his matches with a decent wrestler like Randy and it isn't anywhere near as good. The fans like him so he doesn't need to pander. He can talk some more but nothing like what Cena is doing. |
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Post by Chip on Jul 3, 2014 21:27:31 GMT -5
here's whats gonna happen
all the people saying "i like reigns, i want this to happen, im fine with it"
next year at this time are going to be ALL OVER threads saying how much they hate "Super Reigns"
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Post by rustyy on Jul 3, 2014 21:30:58 GMT -5
You...You're serious? Then he can piss off now and leave for Hollywood before he wastes Vince's time. He has had better matches than John Cena? Name one, literally one. Roman can't play politics, he's been on the roster for like 2 years, he's disposable. He will pander, wait till he gets his monster push. You're high if you think he's keeping this stupid silent badass character. What do you mean it wasn't a legit match? How would he be wasting Vince's time. He could be a draw for a couple of years before he leaves. His matches with the Wyatts, Usos, Rhodes and Dust. Cena's top matches he has been the broomstick to a better worker. Watch his matches with a decent wrestler like Randy and it isn't anywhere near as good. The fans like him so he doesn't need to pander. He can talk some more but nothing like what Cena is doing. Yeah that's the way to do it, don't build wrestlers or people that can help in the future, build movie stars. Reigns will never be the Rock. No one will, that man has charisma running out the ass. Oh no, I said a Roman Reigns match. Not a Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose match ft Reigns for the last 2 minutes match. Name me a Roman Reigns singles match that's better than one of Cena's. Cena's matches with Bryan, Punk and Wyatt were all better. Will the fans like him in 6 months when they realize he's a one trick pony who can only do a few moves and can't speak? |
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Post by rustyy on Jul 3, 2014 21:31:26 GMT -5
here's whats gonna happen all the people saying "i like reigns, i want this to happen, im fine with it" next year at this time are going to be ALL OVER threads saying how much they hate "Super Reigns" You're welcome onto team sourpuss too. Lol. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 3, 2014 21:36:08 GMT -5
Yeah that's the way to do it, don't build wrestlers or people that can help in the future, build movie stars. Reigns will never be the Rock. No one will, that man has charisma running out the ass. Oh no, I said a Roman Reigns match. Not a Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose match ft Reigns for the last 2 minutes match. Name me a Roman Reigns singles match that's better than one of Cena's. Cena's matches with Bryan, Punk and Wyatt were all better. Will the fans like him in 6 months when they realize he's a one trick pony who can only do a few moves and can't speak? Roman still had to work and usually was involved in the finish. I'm not saying that should build him as a movie star, I just think he go down that line if he improves and becomes popular. Again, he is a man of few words, you can't teach charisma, there have been tons of guys who were bad talkers that made it work without being the life of the party. Again, Cena's been carried in all his top matches. Like Cena? I don't know, I think Reigns can improve and he isn't get booed out of the building despite his limited skills. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jul 3, 2014 21:40:47 GMT -5
here's whats gonna happen all the people saying "i like reigns, i want this to happen, im fine with it" next year at this time are going to be ALL OVER threads saying how much they hate "Super Reigns" I won't. I really do like Reigns and have since he was in FCW. While he's not my first choice to be champion in this time period, I'm not against it either. If I had my way, Bryan would be healthy and hold the belt for a long time. Sadly, that's not how things go. The main thing I don't buy about this report, though, is the idea he'll be facing Brock. Unless they're going to increase his schedule a lot, there's no way he's holding the title from Summerslam until Mania. I would be surprised if he held it until Survivor series, though I guess it all depends on how much he's willing to work and who is going to take it from him. Bryan would be great when he comes back, but if not him then I think Cesaro would be good. He has a built in feud with Lesnar ready and will get a great reaction once he finally turns on Heyman. |
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Post by rustyy on Jul 3, 2014 21:44:47 GMT -5
Yeah that's the way to do it, don't build wrestlers or people that can help in the future, build movie stars. Reigns will never be the Rock. No one will, that man has charisma running out the ass. Oh no, I said a Roman Reigns match. Not a Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose match ft Reigns for the last 2 minutes match. Name me a Roman Reigns singles match that's better than one of Cena's. Cena's matches with Bryan, Punk and Wyatt were all better. Will the fans like him in 6 months when they realize he's a one trick pony who can only do a few moves and can't speak? Roman still had to work and usually was involved in the finish. I'm not saying that should build him as a movie star, I just think he go down that line if he improves and becomes popular. Again, he is a man of few words, you can't teach charisma, there have been tons of guys who were bad talkers that made it work without being the life of the party. Again, Cena's been carried in all his top matches. Like Cena? I don't know, I think Reigns can improve and he isn't get booed out of the building despite his limited skills. No, usually he worked for all of 2 minutes or was beat down for 3 and then rested for 10. While Rollins and Ambrose did the other 22 minutes of the match. He should, because then maybe he'll never come back lol. You may not be able to teach charisma but you can fool people into thinking you have it, and WWE is doing that with booking. Once he's out there on his own and has to work singles matches he will bore the crowd to tears. Cena has not been carried to every good match, that's ridiculous. You're just making things up now, I hate Cena but I can admit he knows how to work. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 3, 2014 21:50:43 GMT -5
Roman still had to work and usually was involved in the finish. I'm not saying that should build him as a movie star, I just think he go down that line if he improves and becomes popular. Again, he is a man of few words, you can't teach charisma, there have been tons of guys who were bad talkers that made it work without being the life of the party. Again, Cena's been carried in all his top matches. Like Cena? I don't know, I think Reigns can improve and he isn't get booed out of the building despite his limited skills. No, usually he worked for all of 2 minutes or was beat down for 3 and then rested for 10. While Rollins and Ambrose did the other 22 minutes of the match. He should, because then maybe he'll never come back lol. You may not be able to teach charisma but you can fool people into thinking you have it, and WWE is doing that with booking. Once he's out there on his own and has to work singles matches he will bore the crowd to tears. Cena has not been carried to every good match, that's ridiculous. You're just making things up now, I hate Cena but I can admit he knows how to work. Then why doesn't John have the same quality of matches against guys like Orton, Sheamus, etc. Watch any of Johns fights with Del Rio. Alberto works over his arm and Cena does nothing to sell it and bumps on his ass, literally when he does a hurracanrana he powerbombs himself. Roman has a great chance of becoming a top guy but it's up to him to not get hated. Vince will book him to the top anyway. Just not over Cena ofcourse. |
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Post by el torro on Jul 3, 2014 21:52:15 GMT -5
You...You're serious? Then he can piss off now and leave for Hollywood before he wastes Vince's time. He has had better matches than John Cena? Name one, literally one. Roman can't play politics, he's been on the roster for like 2 years, he's disposable. He will pander, wait till he gets his monster push. You're high if you think he's keeping this stupid silent badass character. What do you mean it wasn't a legit match? How would he be wasting Vince's time. He could be a draw for a couple of years before he leaves. His matches with the Wyatts, Usos, Rhodes and Dust. Cena's top matches he has been the broomstick to a better worker. Watch his matches with a decent wrestler like Randy and it isn't anywhere near as good. The fans like him so he doesn't need to pander. He can talk some more but nothing like what Cena is doing. "His matches are better than Cenas" *compares tag and 3v3 matches to Cena's singles matches* You simply can't make an excuse to defend that all Roman single matches are no where near face of the company status. I hate Cena, but at least he can put up a great match. |
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Post by rustyy on Jul 3, 2014 21:55:18 GMT -5
No, usually he worked for all of 2 minutes or was beat down for 3 and then rested for 10. While Rollins and Ambrose did the other 22 minutes of the match. He should, because then maybe he'll never come back lol. You may not be able to teach charisma but you can fool people into thinking you have it, and WWE is doing that with booking. Once he's out there on his own and has to work singles matches he will bore the crowd to tears. Cena has not been carried to every good match, that's ridiculous. You're just making things up now, I hate Cena but I can admit he knows how to work. Then why doesn't John have the same quality of matches against guys like Orton, Sheamus, etc. Watch any of Johns fights with Del Rio. Alberto works over his arm and Cena does nothing to sell it and bumps on his ass, literally when he does a hurracanrana he powerbombs himself. Roman has a great chance of becoming a top guy but it's up to him to not get hated. Vince will book him to the top anyway. Just not over Cena ofcourse. John sells sometimes. He's not great at it I'll give you that. All Roman does is clothesline, punch and spear so at least John branches out. No, it's not up to Roman, it's up to the fans. And history tells me that he will be hated because he has no redeeming quality other than his look. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 3, 2014 21:56:01 GMT -5
"His matches are better than Cenas" *compares tag and 3v3 matches to Cena's singles matches* You simply can't make an excuse to defend that all Roman single matches are no where near face of the company status. I hate Cena, but at least he can put up a great match. I know, but John needs to be carried to have a great match. He's never improved in 12 years, Roman might be able to. Time will tell. It's up to him. |
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Post by rustyy on Jul 3, 2014 21:56:59 GMT -5
You're talking like such a mark lol. John has improved, you're either blind or just blatantly hating.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 3, 2014 21:57:39 GMT -5
Then why doesn't John have the same quality of matches against guys like Orton, Sheamus, etc. Watch any of Johns fights with Del Rio. Alberto works over his arm and Cena does nothing to sell it and bumps on his ass, literally when he does a hurracanrana he powerbombs himself. Roman has a great chance of becoming a top guy but it's up to him to not get hated. Vince will book him to the top anyway. Just not over Cena ofcourse. John sells sometimes. He's not great at it I'll give you that. All Roman does is clothesline, punch and spear so at least John branches out. No, it's not up to Roman, it's up to the fans. And history tells me that he will be hated because he has no redeeming quality other than his look. That's what I'm saying, Roman needs to improve in the ring. He can get somewhere without talking but he's not Chris Benoit. The fans like him despite having limited skills, if he wants them to love him he must get better. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 3, 2014 22:00:49 GMT -5
You're talking like such a mark lol. John has improved, you're either blind or just blatantly hating. He clearly hasn't if he still has trash matches and does the same things he was doing when he made his debut. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 22:01:14 GMT -5
How about every town just goes insano pop for Ambrose and he's kind of like the next shoe in DBry?
Lol but honestly, IMO, whoever gets selected as the next guy probably won't please us all because we all think differently about wrestlers. I don't like Cena, and never have. But I understand he's the top guy. Do I like it? Hell no. Do I live with it? Yes, because I'm a wrestling fan and I try hard to not who's the top dog or who's doing what hinder my viewing experience or passion for wrestling. If Reigns is the next guy, I'll accept it. Just like I did with Cena. At least it'll be something new. And it'll definitely be better than Miz. Reigns has everything the E wants and looks for. Kids love him. Chicks love him. He probably had a lot of male fans before the shield split and now there's some probably turning on him. Some may have never liked him, but I'm ready for someone new to carry the flag. I'm tired of Cena. I, personally, wanna see a fresh new face on top. Whether it's Reigns, or Ambrose, or Rollins, Cesaro, or especially Bray
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