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Post by East Coast on Dec 6, 2014 22:36:21 GMT -5
they should make him fight the fan he sucker punched
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Post by Sully© on Dec 6, 2014 22:37:58 GMT -5
He's coming in 2015 hell yah
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 6, 2014 22:50:22 GMT -5
And he signed!!! Hahahaha source had credit.
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Post by rustyy on Dec 6, 2014 23:18:44 GMT -5
UFC now has him. Hopefully he'll go and goat it up there too.
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Post by jdfranchise on Dec 7, 2014 2:25:10 GMT -5
As a fan of Punk, a few factors will be interesting to me as he makes a move to MMA:
1. Health. He's been tore up physically from his stint WWE. How will he hold up to training full time in a professional environment with the sharks that compete in MMA.
2. Age. MMA is a young man's sport, with every champion on the current roster being under the age of 31. Punk is 36, but his body is probably older due to the beating he took in wrestling.
3. Experience: I know Punk has been training with Rener Gracie for a while and from what I've seen in his videos he's done with Rener, seems to at least be competent on the mat. But with that experience factor, you must consider weight cutting. Punk is coming from a "bigger is better" world, he's never had to worry about that, and that will certainly play a role in his recovery as fight time approaches.
From a perspective of a martial arts practitioner, Punk needs to get his ass in a good gym that can help him manage his weight cut successfully while filling him in on the gaps in his game (striking and takedown defense).
And before this turns into a comparison with Brock thread, let's go ahead and dispel a couple of things. Yes Brock was a successful amateur wrestler and a freak athlete, but Brock refused to do anything other than lift weights and work on his wrestling, that much was obvious since jump street. During that time he only learned idiot proof submissions. Punk doesn't have Brock's luxury of a thin division and massive athletic creditionals, so he will have to be smarter in his training. The 185 division is a very deep division, so the learning curve is going to be steep.
Dana has also went on record of stating that he won't throw Punk in with the top 15 in the division but rather someone with similar experience. Call that protecting your investment, but I look at this as Dana realizing Brock's hard fall from grace and not wanti g to make the same mistake with Punk, as they are two different guys with two different skill sets. Brock was fortunate enough to have a great skillset in place from a young age, but Punk doesn't have necessarily have the same skill set due to choosing pro wrestling first at a time when amateur wrestling was still an option. I think Punk is also realizing certain factors are against him and is turning off the "Best in the World" shtick and approaching this in a respectful manner.
Last thing is that even though Punk doesn't have Brock's athleticism, we as wrestling fans should understand before anyone else that they are professional entertainers in a very athletic form of entertainment. They still have to train and work out just as an athlete would to do the eye popping maneuvers we enjoy. That by my estimation makes Punk a professional athlete, and I think he will conduct himself in said manner.
I am interested to see how Punk will do, and by my estimation should do pretty well as long as he sets realistic goals for himself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 6:09:51 GMT -5
He will get his ass handed to him.
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Post by Slim on Dec 7, 2014 7:23:23 GMT -5
I'm still shocked! Will watch his fights.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 10:52:22 GMT -5
He'll get his ass beat.
I will absolutely watch his first fight. 100%. Just to see him get his ass beat.
I saw a dude say "goat" it up there too. Lol he was never the greatest in wrestling and he certainly won't be in UFC.
He'll definitely get his ass beat.
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Post by SteveHulk on Dec 7, 2014 11:34:01 GMT -5
....I don't understand why so many people are saying he'll get his ass beat etc. when no-one has seen him fight yet(!). WE DON'T KNOW how he'll do (that's part of the attraction). Plus, he won't be fighting a top contender - or even a fringe contender... he'll be fighting another newcomer or someone who's only had a couple of fights themselves.
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Post by Himmy! on Dec 7, 2014 11:45:54 GMT -5
Not really into UFC but I will check him out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 12:14:55 GMT -5
....I don't understand why so many people are saying he'll get his ass beat etc. when no-one has seen him fight yet(!). WE DON'T KNOW how he'll do (that's part of the attraction). Plus, he won't be fighting a top contender - or even a fringe contender... he'll be fighting another newcomer or someone who's only had a couple of fights themselves. He bitched about Ryback kicking him too hard in his ribs. Yet he'll be fighting guys deliberately trying to break bones and hurt him and knock him out. You do the math.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 12:31:58 GMT -5
....I don't understand why so many people are saying he'll get his ass beat etc. when no-one has seen him fight yet(!). WE DON'T KNOW how he'll do (that's part of the attraction). Plus, he won't be fighting a top contender - or even a fringe contender... he'll be fighting another newcomer or someone who's only had a couple of fights themselves. He bitched about Ryback kicking him too hard in his ribs. Yet he'll be fighting guys deliberately trying to break bones and hurt him and knock him out. You do the math. Not really comparable. In wrestling you're supposed to protect your opponent, so somebody trying to hurt you (if what he said is true), is extremely disrespectful and unacceptable. In UFC, you're obviously not trying to seriously injure your opponent (in most cases), but you know what you're getting into. If he trains with a decent camp day in and day out for say, six months, he might be able to take a low-tier fighter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 12:33:39 GMT -5
He bitched about Ryback kicking him too hard in his ribs. Yet he'll be fighting guys deliberately trying to break bones and hurt him and knock him out. You do the math. Not really comparable. In wrestling you're supposed to protect your opponent, so somebody trying to hurt you (if what he said is true), is extremely disrespectful and unacceptable. In UFC, you're obviously not trying to seriously injure your opponent (in most cases), but you know what you're getting into. If he trains with a decent camp day in and day out for say, six months, he might be able to take a low-tier fighter. 9/10 when you hear of somebody being stiff with someone they get them back. And by getting them back I don't mean getting on your friends podcast and bashing them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 12:39:52 GMT -5
Not really comparable. In wrestling you're supposed to protect your opponent, so somebody trying to hurt you (if what he said is true), is extremely disrespectful and unacceptable. In UFC, you're obviously not trying to seriously injure your opponent (in most cases), but you know what you're getting into. If he trains with a decent camp day in and day out for say, six months, he might be able to take a low-tier fighter. 9/10 when you hear of somebody being stiff with someone they get them back. And by getting them back I don't mean getting on your friends podcast and bashing them. Yes, I'm aware. However, a lot of people still don't retaliate. It's 9/10 on the indies, but I'd say it's less in WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 12:40:56 GMT -5
9/10 when you hear of somebody being stiff with someone they get them back. And by getting them back I don't mean getting on your friends podcast and bashing them. Yes, I'm aware. However, a lot of people still don't retaliate. It's 9/10 on the indies, but I'd say it's less in WWE. That's true. I remember reading where Taker broke Chris Masters nose for not selling and I highly doubt Masters retaliated
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 12:43:37 GMT -5
Yes, I'm aware. However, a lot of people still don't retaliate. It's 9/10 on the indies, but I'd say it's less in WWE. That's true. I remember reading where Taker broke Chris Masters nose for not selling and I highly doubt Masters retaliated Who knows. WWE seems like a backwards place. Maybe retaliating would've gotten him a push. meh.
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Post by bababooey on Dec 7, 2014 13:18:59 GMT -5
I think it's a brilliant move for Punk and UFC. Dana White already said Punk will start against guys with similar records (aka Punk will start with some easy fights). In the time Punk can gain some confidence and experience which will help him beat a middle tier guy or two. He's got maybe 2 years before having to go up against some serious competition. At that point, it's a win win for him no matter what. If he gets beat he can bring up that he's pushing 40 and his body is worn down from years of wrestling. If he retires he can us the same excuse. He can take the high road and put over UFC and the younger fighters in a press conference.
Great business move all around.
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Post by noir on Dec 7, 2014 13:40:45 GMT -5
What a year in wrestling! The streak ends, punk quits, sting joins wwe and now this...
I am very excited by this. I am as much an mma fan as I am a wrestling fan these days and punk has always been a favourite. When rogan announced the signing, my jaw was on the floor. If you watch punk's interview with Ariel Helwani you can see he's very honest and humble about what he's getting into.how do I see him faring? No idea. I know he has trained BJJ but I also know he doesn't have a belt and his experience is very limited. Perhaps if he's in a good camp he can have a good run against some lower level guys. I don't seeing UFC putting him against and big names unless he really surprises us all.
Great event! I also put £15 on Lawlor to win so pretty jazzed.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Dec 7, 2014 14:20:09 GMT -5
What happen to the other 10 page thread about this? It disappears from the WWE section.
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Post by Mox on Dec 7, 2014 18:29:18 GMT -5
What happen to the other 10 page thread about this? It disappears from the WWE section. Some wfigs mallcop ruined the fun for everyone it seems. Probably a Punk mark too.
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