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Post by Planktung on Jan 5, 2015 18:02:41 GMT -5
Do the people who support Roman believe that he's ready for a mega push to the World Championship? No I'm a big fan of roman reigns and even I know he's not ready for a title yet but at the same time some people are acting like he's a 15x wwe champion or something.You say you want new main eventers but when we finally get some you wanna complain because you don't like this guy or that guy or something. If WWE were heavily pushing someone who you didn't like, you'd have the same response. Just saying. |
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Post by Weemanv1 on Jan 5, 2015 18:03:22 GMT -5
It's just another case of "don't tell me who to like, dad! I'm going to my room!" Why do you always have to be so condescending about everything? Can you not convey your own opinions without insulting others? He can; I've seen it rarely. He chooses not to. That's how trolls work for their reactions. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 18:10:13 GMT -5
No I'm a big fan of roman reigns and even I know he's not ready for a title yet but at the same time some people are acting like he's a 15x wwe champion or something.You say you want new main eventers but when we finally get some you wanna complain because you don't like this guy or that guy or something. Sure most people want new maint eventers, that doesn't mean we have to like them. I really enjoy Ambrose, Rollins, and Wyatt. No not because their "darlings". I haven't seen any of their indy work. I judged them on what they brought to the main roster. I have no bias against Reigns, I just do not like him. That's absolutely fine you don't have to like him and I'm not gonna force you to like him either. I get it Roman Reigns needs some improvements but at the same time people are acting like he's about to be WWE Champion or something because that's clearly not the case at this point.It's funny because I remember when Everyone was cheering him on last year the royal rumble for him to win now it's the complete opposite. And whats with this RomanReignsWinsLOL thing anyway I understand for cena but not for roman reigns.I didn't see a dolphzigglerwinsLOL when Ziggler was playing hot potato with the IC title with the miz and luke harper,I didn't see a BrayWyattWinsLOL when he was defeating Dean Ambrose and back to back PPVs.And I didn't see a SethRollinsWinsLOL when he was defeating Dean at back to back PPVs as well and plus a few raw matches but when Roman wins a match againts seth or someone more popular on here it's a complete different story.Aren't they trying to BUILD HIM UP to make him seem like possible contender like seth or bray wyatt or even dolph ziggler? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 18:12:14 GMT -5
No I'm a big fan of roman reigns and even I know he's not ready for a title yet but at the same time some people are acting like he's a 15x wwe champion or something.You say you want new main eventers but when we finally get some you wanna complain because you don't like this guy or that guy or something. If WWE were heavily pushing someone who you didn't like, you'd have the same response. Just saying. Absolutely not I don't like sheamus or even the miz but when they became wwe champion I took it as a "WWE Trying to make new stars" approach I rather see guys like them winning then see another generic title run with cena or Orton for the 10000000 time. |
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Post by Tyler Black on Jan 5, 2015 18:18:22 GMT -5
Its not about reigns being a jacked up guy as compared to your smaller work horse wrestlers. Dude just isn't  ing ready. Take Triple H. Triple H was just as jacked up as reigns is now, back in 2000 when he got his push. He still had the ability to have great matches. Reigns so far hasn't shown the ability to have great matches. |
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Post by marino13 on Jan 5, 2015 18:20:55 GMT -5
I applaud WWE for trying to create new stars ASAP. And I like Roman Reigns. I have no problem with his in ring style. I think he's going to be a huge star....someday. But he's just not there yet.
If I had to guess, the backlash is because WWE tries to tell the fans what to think instead of letting it happen organically (like Bryan last year). Instead of promoting every talent and letting the fans decide what/who they want, Vince assumes he knows, and will not stop trying to force feed it till most get sick. Today's fans are too smart/stubborn to be told what to think anymore.
Personally I view Roman's situation to be very similar to the Rock's initial debut. The fans weren't having it. As we all know, Rocky eventually turned heel and won the fans over. Then became one of the most popular wrestlers of any era. Roman needs to be proven more before the fans will ever accept him.
That's why I say a heel turn would benefit Roman greatly. Gives him time to grow while the fans boo him. It gives him an excuse for him to have a mouthpiece. Gives him plenty of top talent to feud with (Cena, Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, Orton and maybe even Rock). Once he's proven he's legit and his style has progressed, he can break out and be a mega face.
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Post by el torro on Jan 5, 2015 18:25:12 GMT -5
Depends which one is actually good. Reigns hasn't done either.
And that apparently cliche style is still tons better than Reigns.
This guy thinks Reigns has done numerous things that "pick up the pace" and can only name one thing.
NOPE.
However I was entertained when Show tossed across the announce table.
His character is the same it has been these past 3 years. At least Ambrose and Rollins strayed away from their past in the Shield. Reigns has nothing. He's "still learning like every guy should". He's had one singles PPV match and is already on his way to beating Lesnar while you have Rollins in numerous PPV main events ACTUALLY LEARNING how it is in the main event scene. Rollins has been doing for the past year what Reigns is just learning now.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jan 5, 2015 18:33:17 GMT -5
You need to change the thread title to: Memo to the IWC.
Reigns is fine, but people resent WWE forcing him in their faces so soon. He's yet to prove himself on the mic or in the ring. He's still a raw asset that is still a ways away from developing.
It's all based on opinion. If you like him, fine. If a bunch of people don't, that's fine too. Why worry about other people's opinions? The whole purpose of this thread is to change peoples' minds to reflect your own views. Why poke the bear (the IWC ALWAYS pokes back)? Enjoy what you enjoy, don't sweat what anyone else thinks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 18:42:42 GMT -5
You need to change the thread title to: Memo to the IWC. Reigns is fine, but people resent WWE forcing him in their faces so soon. He's yet to prove himself on the mic or in the ring. He's still a raw asset that is still a ways away from developing. It's all based on opinion. If you like him, fine. If a bunch of people don't, that's fine too. Why worry about other people's opinions? The whole purpose of this thread is to change peoples' minds to reflect your own views. Why poke the bear (the IWC ALWAYS pokes back)? Enjoy what you enjoy, don't sweat what anyone else thinks. I don't want to change anyone's mind honestly. I respect and appreciate people having different opinions. I saw this on Wrestlezone and enjoyed the read and thought I would share. Simple as that. I appreciate your views however I don't appreciate you saying why I made the thread. I just know some feel so strongly about him that it might make for a good discussion. That's pretty much it man |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 19:02:44 GMT -5
Depends which one is actually good. Reigns hasn't done either. And that apparently cliche style is still tons better than Reigns. This guy thinks Reigns has done numerous things that "pick up the pace" and can only name one thing. NOPE. However I was entertained when Show tossed across the announce table. His character is the same it has been these past 3 years. At least Ambrose and Rollins strayed away from their past in the Shield. Reigns has nothing. He's "still learning like every guy should". He's had one singles PPV match and is already on his way to beating Lesnar while you have Rollins in numerous PPV main events ACTUALLY LEARNING how it is in the main event scene. Rollins has been doing for the past year what Reigns is just learning now. Oh my god.... You're so condescending. When you first started bashing reigns you said "I think he's a decent worker, I just hate how he broke Kane's record and is gonna get a mega push" You're literally bashing someone because they're getting pushed over others. It's like when people literally talk crapabout Cena because ziggler etc aren't getting in the main event. It doesn't make sense. You guys want to see a good reigns match? Watch rollins vs reigns, and don't you dare tell me rollins carried that match because he didn't. Reigns looked incredibly impressive, rollins just got majority of offense in because that's how it always works in face vs heel matches. Heel gets mega offense in, face shows signs of comeback, gets beaten down more and then makes a huge comeback. You want it differently? Go watch another product. Reigns is the future because he's special, deal with it. |
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Post by Chip on Jan 5, 2015 19:19:33 GMT -5
What people keep failing to realize is the difference between American wrestling and the Japanese style. Guys like bryan were taught to build a match through tons of complex holds and maneuvers and let the actual grappling do the work. They were shown that skill is what brings you to stardom. The Americanized version of professional wrestling is and has always been the aspect of theater. It will NEVER ACTUALLY BE ABOUT THE WRESTING, always about the story arc that surrounds it. Because of the styles that the NXT guys and Bryan are now exposing to the U.S. audience, along with companies like ROH and PWG, the "strong style" with a little American thrown in, it's going to be hard for a guy like roman to push forward because Vince loves that "larger than life, untouchable warrior" aspect of his wrestlers that he endorses. When in reality, it's the actual moves and holds that should've been honored form the beginning. But that's the way it's always been with the WWE. It will forever portray it's guys as characters, never as actual technical masters. It was a constant fight for guys like Bret hart and HBK to get over because of this, but they did anyway because they never gave up. Bottom line, Reigns simply has "the look" that WWE wants as the marketable face of its company to sell products off of. They can put his mug on game covers, DVDs, toys, and what have you and they will make money. It will never be about the actual wrestling in World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT. [/every single thread or topic about Roman Reigns henceforth] |
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Post by Chip on Jan 5, 2015 19:23:50 GMT -5
my 2cents
it's not about REIGNS
it's about the WWE forcing superReigns down our throats and basically saying "you will like this guy because he's awesome!" in their typical forced fake over-selling way of doing business
Vince forgot what reality is a long time ago. If he presented a product that WAS more realistic and NOT the status quo of the world he would actually make MORE money than he is know. people are just sick and tired of the same bullcrapweek in and week out
even people got sick of The Soprano's after awhile because it became "who's dying this week"
The biggest issue here is that over the last few years this company has gotten WORSE with it's forced attitude. And now they have so many more ways to promote it too. So really it's not about Reigns as much as it is about the company for lack of a better term TELLING us who we are going to like and purposely setting things up for Roman because they want to while other guys who are a million times the performer Roman is have to scratch and claw and fight and gnaw their way to maybe sniffing the top once....while Roman because he "has teh looks" gets skyrocketed to the top.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 5, 2015 19:27:34 GMT -5
Sure most people want new maint eventers, that doesn't mean we have to like them. I really enjoy Ambrose, Rollins, and Wyatt. No not because their "darlings". I haven't seen any of their indy work. I judged them on what they brought to the main roster. I have no bias against Reigns, I just do not like him. That's absolutely fine you don't have to like him and I'm not gonna force you to like him either. I get it Roman Reigns needs some improvements but at the same time people are acting like he's about to be WWE Champion or something because that's clearly not the case at this point.It's funny because I remember when Everyone was cheering him on last year the royal rumble for him to win now it's the complete opposite. And whats with this RomanReignsWinsLOL thing anyway I understand for cena but not for roman reigns.I didn't see a dolphzigglerwinsLOL when Ziggler was playing hot potato with the IC title with the miz and luke harper,I didn't see a BrayWyattWinsLOL when he was defeating Dean Ambrose and back to back PPVs.And I didn't see a SethRollinsWinsLOL when he was defeating Dean at back to back PPVs as well and plus a few raw matches but when Roman wins a match againts seth or someone more popular on here it's a complete different story.Aren't they trying to BUILD HIM UP to make him seem like possible contender like seth or bray wyatt or even dolph ziggler? Again, the DolphwinsLOL thing isn't going to happen and it's not because Dolph is a "darling." It's because Dolph, Bray and Seth aren't booked to win 90% of their matches and look like superman. John Cena and Roman Reigns are, which makes CenaWinsLOL and RomanWinsLOL a thing. Even if Dolph trades the IC Title with people, he is not a superman so this is a bad comparison. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 19:40:15 GMT -5
That's absolutely fine you don't have to like him and I'm not gonna force you to like him either. I get it Roman Reigns needs some improvements but at the same time people are acting like he's about to be WWE Champion or something because that's clearly not the case at this point.It's funny because I remember when Everyone was cheering him on last year the royal rumble for him to win now it's the complete opposite. And whats with this RomanReignsWinsLOL thing anyway I understand for cena but not for roman reigns.I didn't see a dolphzigglerwinsLOL when Ziggler was playing hot potato with the IC title with the miz and luke harper,I didn't see a BrayWyattWinsLOL when he was defeating Dean Ambrose and back to back PPVs.And I didn't see a SethRollinsWinsLOL when he was defeating Dean at back to back PPVs as well and plus a few raw matches but when Roman wins a match againts seth or someone more popular on here it's a complete different story.Aren't they trying to BUILD HIM UP to make him seem like possible contender like seth or bray wyatt or even dolph ziggler? Again, the DolphwinsLOL thing isn't going to happen and it's not because Dolph is a "darling." It's because Dolph, Bray and Seth aren't booked to win 90% of their matches and look like superman. John Cena and Roman Reigns are, which makes CenaWinsLOL and RomanWinsLOL a thing. Even if Dolph trades the IC Title with people, he is not a superman so this is a bad comparison. Because winning a Match Against Fandango actually means something? Think about it who has Roman Reigns Defeated in the matches that actually mattered? Because if I look back just by 2014(when he went solo) he's only really feuded with Kane,Randy Orton and Seth Rollins.And yes he defeated Kane and Orton but honestly Who Hasn't defeated them? EVERYONE Pretty much defeats kane and orton and when it comes to seth I only remember him beating him once.So besides them 3 who has Roman Reigns REALLY defeated to get the romanwinslol crap? |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 5, 2015 19:43:17 GMT -5
Again, the DolphwinsLOL thing isn't going to happen and it's not because Dolph is a "darling." It's because Dolph, Bray and Seth aren't booked to win 90% of their matches and look like superman. John Cena and Roman Reigns are, which makes CenaWinsLOL and RomanWinsLOL a thing. Even if Dolph trades the IC Title with people, he is not a superman so this is a bad comparison. Because winning a Match Against Fandango actually means something? Think about it who has Roman Reigns Defeated in the matches that actually mattered? Because if I look back just by 2014(when he went solo) he's only really feuded with Kane,Randy Orton and Seth Rollins.And yes he defeated Kane and Orton but honestly Who Hasn't defeated them? EVERYONE Pretty much defeats kane and orton and when it comes to seth I only remember him beating him once.So besides them 3 who has Roman Reigns REALLY defeated to be get the romanreingswinslol crap? To be fair, most of the RomanWinsLOL stuff is people saying that's going to the future that we're in store for. He hasn't been able to have enough singles matches to make this relevant right now, which is another reason why he isn't ready. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 19:54:07 GMT -5
Because winning a Match Against Fandango actually means something? Think about it who has Roman Reigns Defeated in the matches that actually mattered? Because if I look back just by 2014(when he went solo) he's only really feuded with Kane,Randy Orton and Seth Rollins.And yes he defeated Kane and Orton but honestly Who Hasn't defeated them? EVERYONE Pretty much defeats kane and orton and when it comes to seth I only remember him beating him once.So besides them 3 who has Roman Reigns REALLY defeated to be get the romanreingswinslol crap? To be fair, most of the RomanWinsLOL stuff is people saying that's going to the future that we're in store for. He hasn't been able to have enough singles matches to make this relevant right now, which is another reason why he isn't ready. I get that and I understand that BUT my point is that even if Roman who just had some small feuds with Kane and orton(Two people who everyone else defeated) and wins both its Roman Reigns being superman again.But if it was someone like ziggler who by the way has been on a roll lately when it comes to winning the big Matches the Matches that actually mattered everyone would have a different saying something like "The Future or hopefully this leads to a wwe title push".NOBODY Was complaining when ziggler won the IC title from luke harper who NEEDED That more than ziggler but if roman did it would be a different story. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 5, 2015 20:03:40 GMT -5
To be fair, most of the RomanWinsLOL stuff is people saying that's going to the future that we're in store for. He hasn't been able to have enough singles matches to make this relevant right now, which is another reason why he isn't ready. I get that and I understand that BUT my point is that even if Roman who just had some small feuds with Kane and orton(Two people who everyone else defeated) and wins both its Roman Reigns being superman again.But if it was someone like ziggler who by the way has been on a roll lately when it comes to winning the big Matches the Matches that actually mattered everyone would have a different saying something like "The Future or hopefully this leads to a wwe title push".NOBODY Was complaining when ziggler won the IC title from luke harper who NEEDED That more than ziggler but if roman did it would be a different story. You don't seem to get it. Roman Reigns, since about November of 2013 had been booked to look unstoppable. The only time I remember him getting pinned was by Bray Wyatt at Elimination Chamber. He gets the four eliminations at Survivor Series, he suddenly becomes the leader of the Shield overnight, he sets the Royal Rumble record for eliminations. When Seth turned, he feuded with Dean while Roman moved into the WWE Title picture. Even with Dolph's wins, he's never booked to be unstoppable. That's the point. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 21:12:00 GMT -5
He's good, and could be a lot better...whatever happens with him, the world keeps spinning and it's fine with me...there are more important issues within the realm of WWE than what's happening with Reigns IMO...namely NXT...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 22:00:23 GMT -5
I didn't get the memo.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 5, 2015 22:25:06 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is boring. That's all there is to it for me. Exactly. I don't think he's bad, he's just bland. Boring is far worse than bad |
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