hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Jan 13, 2015 18:15:41 GMT -5
I'm disappointed with his current booking but I'm not surprised. Rollins is going to be a mega heel and the higher up's are horny for Reigns (mostly Vince) to be the top guy.
But out of any of those 3, Ambrose is the only one who could be booked this badly and still bounce back from it. Ambrose will eventually get his time, let Reigns fall on his face first then they'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 19:14:03 GMT -5
I'll disagree on long term plans. I'm sure he'll get his eventually. And Cesaro/Ryback shouldn't be near the main event. Well, not now they shouldn't. But both had their time when they were super over and the WWE just completely dropped the ball with them. And what possibly would lead you to believe they have long-term plans for him based on what you've seen so far? Because I'm not as pessimistic about it as others? People said the exact same thing about Bray Wyatt just a few months ago...
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Post by Miztery on Jan 13, 2015 19:14:55 GMT -5
WWE Creative happened.
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Post by Rob on Jan 13, 2015 19:18:17 GMT -5
the really weird thing is that he hardly ever loses clean in a 1 on 1 match. He loses in stipulation matches where he doesnt straight up get pinned and made to look bad. Its not like they are "zigglering" him and having him get beat all the time cleanly. I dont understand why they are protecting him but having him lose every match he is in, Even if he doesnt get pinned cleanly, It still is hurting him because how do you get behind a guy you pretty much already know is going to lose?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 19:19:43 GMT -5
Before this week, I said stuff like "His time will come" and comparisons to Tommy Dreamer. Isn't he fighting Rusev now? Yeah I have no clue how that's gonna end well.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 13, 2015 20:28:44 GMT -5
What does manning up have to do with anything? The average WWE fan these days actually likes the unwatchable garbage they put out these days. Yeah, WWE should forget about those fans who like the show -- the company doesn't do enough to aim their product at people on the internet who complain about everything but watch anyway.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 13, 2015 20:37:22 GMT -5
What does manning up have to do with anything? The average WWE fan these days actually likes the unwatchable garbage they put out these days. Yeah, WWE should forget about those fans who like the show -- the company doesn't do enough to aim their product at people on the internet who complain about everything but watch anyway. Even the casual fan, who doesn't complain online, seem to love Dean Ambrose. He's the second or third most over face on the roster, but if he keeps losing like he does, the casual viewer will lose interest fast.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Jan 13, 2015 20:55:34 GMT -5
I don't think he has been TERRIBLY booked, but it hasn't been great either. The booking of Bray Wyatt had negative reprecussions for the booking of Ambrose, but I don't think long term damage has been done seeing how over he still is. Most of his losses haven't been clean or have been in gimmick matches where he still shined and looked like a lunatic. He will survive and do bigger things, I'm sure of it. WWE has a weird habit of making their next big stars lose big matches before they get a big push, save for their next "face", so who knows?
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 13, 2015 21:25:58 GMT -5
What does manning up have to do with anything? The average WWE fan these days actually likes the unwatchable garbage they put out these days. Yeah, WWE should forget about those fans who like the show -- the company doesn't do enough to aim their product at people on the internet who complain about everything but watch anyway. 1. That's not what I said. I said that the problem was the people who actually like the awful programming they've been putting out for years now. I didn't say WWE should forget about those fans, I said those fans should suck less. It's almost as if I already said that. If only there were some way to read my entire post to understand what I was saying instead of taking one part out of context... 2. I don't watch regularly. I want to be a fan of the WWE. I grew up on it. I'd been a fan for around 25 years when I gave up on it. I still check back every now and again to see if they've turned things around, but it's consistently unwatchable. I really don't understand how do many WWE fans can hate TNA, they're equally terrible. But to be completely honest, I do keep up with WWE on SiriusXM's Busted Open.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 13, 2015 21:34:24 GMT -5
Yeah, WWE should forget about those fans who like the show -- the company doesn't do enough to aim their product at people on the internet who complain about everything but watch anyway. Even the casual fan, who doesn't complain online, seem to love Dean Ambrose. He's the second or third most over face on the roster, but if he keeps losing like he does, the casual viewer will lose interest fast. That's not necessarily true. There have been several wrestlers who have gotten over while losing a fair bit -- Foley and Bryan in particular were very good at it. I don't know that Ambrose is on their level, but he could well have that same sympathetic quality. He's better losing memorable matches with storylines than he is winning forgettable filler ones over Cesaro or Harper or whoever. But either way, saying "everything sucks and everyone who likes anything sucks" is no position to be instigating any real improvement from.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 13, 2015 21:38:21 GMT -5
Even the casual fan, who doesn't complain online, seem to love Dean Ambrose. He's the second or third most over face on the roster, but if he keeps losing like he does, the casual viewer will lose interest fast. That's not necessarily true. There have been several wrestlers who have gotten over while losing a fair bit -- Foley and Bryan in particular were very good at it. I don't know that Ambrose is on their level, but he could well have that same sympathetic quality. He's better losing memorable matches with storylines than he is winning forgettable filler ones over Cesaro or Harper or whoever. But either way, saying "everything sucks and everyone who likes anything sucks" is no position to be instigating any real improvement from. I think he can overcome it like Daniel Bryan, but he needs some forward movement soon. Hopefully, he can get a nice win at WrestleMania and start winning from there. Also, I didn't say "everything sucks and everyone who likes anything sucks" or anything like that, so I don't know who that was directed at.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 13, 2015 21:52:06 GMT -5
Ambrose, while personally I am not a huge fan of, got himself WAY over with the crowd. Not sure why WWE does not want to take advantage of this, but I guess no one should really be shocked. How many guys have we seen in recent history get majorly over with the crowds, move some merch and start getting jobbed?
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 13, 2015 22:00:00 GMT -5
I wish they weren't going as far as possible out of their way to sterilize him with these terrible backstage segments, but I like that they're going with a more organic route in building him. It's something that guys like Ryback and Roman Reigns really could have used.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 13, 2015 22:41:43 GMT -5
Also, I didn't say "everything sucks and everyone who likes anything sucks" or anything like that, so I don't know who that was directed at. Go back and read my original post that you quoted.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 13, 2015 22:43:45 GMT -5
Also, I didn't say "everything sucks and everyone who likes anything sucks" or anything like that, so I don't know who that was directed at. Go back and read my original post that you quoted. Gotcha
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 0:15:45 GMT -5
They gone f*cked it up.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Jan 14, 2015 0:27:17 GMT -5
Dean F'n Ambrose you're back!... nevermind..you WERE back.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 14, 2015 0:42:44 GMT -5
optimistic people? Lol. Also, there is no way I'm alone in that feeling even if I am in a minority. Also, man up an not let others ruin what you like, bro. What does manning up have to do with anything? The average WWE fan these days actually likes the unwatchable garbage they put out these days. WWE sucks so badly for one reason: IT MAKES MONEY. It's not about Vince being out of touch (even though he is) or the wrong guys usually being pushed over the guys that we actually want to see (even though they are). It's because the average modern day WWE fan is too lame to realize that the product sucks. I couldn't have said it better myself
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Post by torriefan4life on Jan 14, 2015 0:44:48 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks that he is in for a big match with Cena at WrestleMania?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 1:24:26 GMT -5
It's a race not a marathon. You can't win a marathon without putting some bandaids on your nipples.
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