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Post by Rob on Jan 14, 2015 1:44:10 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks that he is in for a big match with Cena at WrestleMania? Thats the last thing he needs is to feud with Cena. |
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Post by HVMMONS on Jan 14, 2015 1:47:43 GMT -5
Even though there's no way of this happening again...
1 man for the job:
Paul Heyman
Lead Writer for WWE Raw and SD.
Kofi, Barrett, Rose, Dallas, Axel, Ziggler (to an extent), Rhodes/Stardust, Miz, and even Sandow can ALL BE main event stars. The problem is, WWE has programmed their face into our minds that they'll be a midcarder forever. Which is sad. I really wish Heyman had a hand in creative. All of those people I mentioned could be in a major feud right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 2:11:25 GMT -5
Even though there's no way of this happening again... 1 man for the job: Paul Heyman Lead Writer for WWE Raw and SD. Kofi, Barrett, Rose, Dallas, Axel, Ziggler (to an extent), Rhodes/Stardust, Miz, and even Sandow can ALL BE main event stars. The problem is, WWE has programmed their face into our minds that they'll be a midcarder forever. Which is sad. I really wish Heyman had a hand in creative. All of those people I mentioned could be in a major feud right now. Honestly, I'd take even Triple H taking over creative. The dude is working pure magic in NXT. I'd love to see what he can do with the main roster. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 2:14:48 GMT -5
Kofi, Barrett, Rose, Dallas, Axel, Ziggler (to an extent), Rhodes/Stardust, Miz, and even Sandow can ALL BE main event stars. None of those will EVER deserve to be apart of the Main Event nor close to it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 2:17:57 GMT -5
Kofi, Barrett, Rose, Dallas, Axel, Ziggler (to an extent), Rhodes/Stardust, Miz, and even Sandow can ALL BE main event stars. None of those will EVER deserve to be apart of the Main Event nor close to it. Barrett is really the only one you can really make a case for. Kofi in 09, sure, but six years later? eh. |
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Post by McBlake on Jan 14, 2015 2:44:46 GMT -5
WWE fans have no patience. Didn't Daniel Bryan lose his first 8 matches and end up first off NXT? Fans want too much at once. Ambrose has contributed to making Rollins a star. Wyatt and Reigns have also become big deals over the past 12 months.
He'll get his turn eventually. He's far too over and talented. I'd be very surprised if he wasn't on top (not that he's a million miles away, so I don't know why it bothers people so much) in the next 18 months.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 14, 2015 9:22:35 GMT -5
It's a race not a marathon. You can't win a marathon without putting some bandaids on your nipples. Valid point! |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 14, 2015 9:55:44 GMT -5
Kofi, Barrett, Rose, Dallas, Axel, Ziggler (to an extent), Rhodes/Stardust, Miz, and even Sandow can ALL BE main event stars. None of those will EVER deserve to be apart of the Main Event nor close to it. Yeah, you really have no idea if that is true or not, well other than with Miz because that definitely didn't work. If the machine pumps energy into any of those guys there is no telling how it would work out. I think it's hilarious you used the word "deserve" like you have any  ing idea who in WWE deserves what. |
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Post by Tyler Black on Jan 14, 2015 10:28:39 GMT -5
Nope. I think he's been booked fine. Still over and gets a lot of TV time. Do I want him to be more the guy? Sure, just not room and they are trying to push Roman. Dean will be on top eventually. Was I the only one entertained by the psych stuff? I would love to think so, but sadly you are but alone. What I am crap to say next is probably going to sound like an insult buy I swear it isn't meant to be: People like you have ruined wrestling for me. No sir, you the instant gratification, crash-tv loving, Russo target viewer has ruined wrestling for me. |
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Post by marino13 on Jan 14, 2015 10:37:57 GMT -5
I would love to think so, but sadly you are but alone. What I am crap to say next is probably going to sound like an insult buy I swear it isn't meant to be: People like you have ruined wrestling for me. optimistic people? Lol. Also, there is no way I'm alone in that feeling even if I am in a minority. Also, man up an not let others ruin what you like, bro. You get a stick up your ass immediately! You hear me? You're ruining everything!!  |
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Post by Tyler Black on Jan 14, 2015 10:52:46 GMT -5
optimistic people? Lol. Also, there is no way I'm alone in that feeling even if I am in a minority. Also, man up an not let others ruin what you like, bro. You get a stick up your ass immediately! You hear me? You're ruining everything!!  |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 14, 2015 10:57:04 GMT -5
None of those will EVER deserve to be apart of the Main Event nor close to it. Yeah, you really have no idea if that is true or not, well other than with Miz because that definitely didn't work. If the machine pumps energy into any of those guys there is no telling how it would work out. I think it's hilarious you used the word "deserve" like you have any ing idea who in WWE deserves what. I agree with this 100%. The Miz was the only one who truly got a shot and, while he drew good heat, isn't a main event guy. Barrett and Ziggler have the tools to be main event guys for sure. Not the tools to be the number one guy in the company, but still. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 14, 2015 11:12:22 GMT -5
Yeah, you really have no idea if that is true or not, well other than with Miz because that definitely didn't work. If the machine pumps energy into any of those guys there is no telling how it would work out. I think it's hilarious you used the word "deserve" like you have any ing idea who in WWE deserves what. I agree with this 100%. The Miz was the only one who truly got a shot and, while he drew good heat, isn't a main event guy. Barrett and Ziggler have the tools to be main event guys for sure. Not the tools to be the number one guy in the company, but still. Barrett kind of breaks my heart. I was at the Raw where the original Nexus attack occurred and then I was at Survivor Series 2010, both were at AAA in Miami. So I essentially thought I was going to see the full spectrum of Barrett becoming the next top heel in WWE... and then they didn't let him win. Realistically, he wasn't ready for the title, but he was so hot, and the Nexus angle was so hot, that there was absolutely no reason to not make him a main eventer in that moment. Made even worse by WWE's failed efforts with Sheamus and Miz imo. His health was a factor after all of that was over. So I can't help but feel that if Barrett was given that push back then, he could still be a main event bubble guy right now, at worst like Sheamus. Ziggler to me is as ready as any guy on the roster to be pushed to the main event. I think he's probably a transitional type of champion guy, which pains me to say but given how WWE books that's probably best case scenario, but he can definitely be the guy, facing the guy imo. At worst you get a great chase story out of him and we know how people react when Ziggler is chasing gold. If Ziggler stays face right now, he's perfect to face (c)Seth Rollins, Wyatt or Ambrose if he flips, as a heel he can obviously go with Cena, Orton, Bryan. He is 1995 HBK right now imo and it's a matter of pulling the trigger with him. I don't see any issue with giving it a real go with him at some point over the next 2 years. If it doesn't work then so be it. It's not like he won't go right back to being the focal point of the midcard. |
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Post by HVMMONS on Jan 14, 2015 12:51:28 GMT -5
Kofi, Barrett, Rose, Dallas, Axel, Ziggler (to an extent), Rhodes/Stardust, Miz, and even Sandow can ALL BE main event stars. None of those will EVER deserve to be apart of the Main Event nor close to it. Exactly my point. Thank you for proving it. The funny thing is, they ALL deserve it. They all have potential. Barrett, Sandow, Rose, Rhodes, and even Axel CAN be one of the top heels, if not the top heel in the company along with Rollins. |
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Post by RWF on Jan 14, 2015 12:57:05 GMT -5
Traditional WWE booking.
Step 1: Take a hot act, one that's gotten over organically, with a little help from some positive TV time. Gauge his reaction. See that he's more over than anyone you're trying to push. Then spend the next 6 months to a year, having him lose, be booked like an idiot and put over all the acts you want to get over but aren't and won't.
Step 2: After a solid year of being poorly booked, fans will no longer support this act. If by some chance fans are still clinging to this guy, double down on step one and put him in a high profile feud and make sure he loses out in every possible way. That should do the trick. If need be, have him feud with Triple H, this usually can suck any heat he has away, especially when HHH gets the better of him every week.
Step 3: Quietly move this act out of the picture and continue to push your latest failed pet project.
Step 4: Profit?
See also: Zack Ryder
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 13:02:54 GMT -5
None of those will EVER deserve to be apart of the Main Event nor close to it. Exactly my point. Thank you for proving it. The funny thing is, they ALL deserve it. They all have potential. Barrett, Sandow, Rose, Rhodes, and even Axel CAN be one of the top heels, if not the top heel in the company along with Rollins. Axel cannot be a top heel. |
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Post by HVMMONS on Jan 14, 2015 13:05:51 GMT -5
Exactly my point. Thank you for proving it. The funny thing is, they ALL deserve it. They all have potential. Barrett, Sandow, Rose, Rhodes, and even Axel CAN be one of the top heels, if not the top heel in the company along with Rollins. Axel cannot be a top heel. You really have no say, honestly. You don't know if he can or not. Does he have potential? Hell yes. Improper booking make him look like a fragile piece of garbage. He's far from that. With that being said, I'm eager to see his new development while in NXT. |
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 14, 2015 13:13:33 GMT -5
Dean F'n Ambrose you're back!... nevermind..you WERE back. I miss Dean F'n Ambrose |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 14, 2015 13:24:32 GMT -5
I would love to think so, but sadly you are but alone. What I am crap to say next is probably going to sound like an insult buy I swear it isn't meant to be: People like you have ruined wrestling for me. No sir, you the instant gratification, crash-tv loving, Russo target viewer has ruined wrestling for me. Who said anything about instant gratification, crash-TV it Vince Russo? Just because I don't like what's happening now doesn't mean I think we need to go back to the Attitude Era. That doesn't even mean that I prefer the Attitude Era. Not once, in any post I have ever made here, have I ever suggested that. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 14, 2015 13:33:06 GMT -5
Axel cannot be a top heel. You really have no say, honestly. You don't know if he can or not. Does he have potential? Hell yes. Improper booking make him look like a fragile piece of garbage. He's far from that. With that being said, I'm eager to see his new development while in NXT. He badly needs a mouthpiece. He has the worst mic skills I think I've ever seen. I have hope for him down in NXT, but even through his first match with Itami he just keep yelling randomly throughout and it didn't click. He and Rose are the two guys on your list that I see with mid-card ceilings. They could always prove me wrong, but with their abilities right now, that's what I see. |
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