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Post by sitruC on Feb 8, 2015 17:12:09 GMT -5
Nah, others in here have definitely nailed it. People are so against people being rushed but complain when their favourite isn't.
Ambrose is my favourite but I'd 100% rather him take it slow than be main eventing right now, besides, is having a title really worse than what he's had so far? Imo, this will benefit both stars.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 21:17:27 GMT -5
I remember a case like Eddie Guerrero. For about four years, I don't think anybody thought he'd be WWE champion. He was fun to watch, he had that "it" factor, but he was undersized and I'm sure WFigs now would've said he was being buried for his entire career.
The pop he got when he beat Brock Lesnar for the title was insane and cemented him as a main eventer. It's obviously unfortunate he passed away, but if he hadn't, there's a pretty good chance he would've been right up there with Cena as the most over face (though I suspect he might have retired by now anyway).
Slow burns can do amazing things for a wrestler's career if it's done right. We've had the Shield split for not even a year at this point, so there's literally no possible way to judge what they are or aren't doing at this point. They clearly have faith him, and he'll get his shot. The IWC just needs a longer attention span.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Feb 8, 2015 21:25:57 GMT -5
WFigs logic: Superstar get's pushed to the moon too fast, people bitch and moan. Superstar stays in mid-card allowing better charcter development, people bitch and moan. Jesus ing Christ, come on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 21:31:27 GMT -5
WFigs logic: Superstar get's pushed to the moon too fast, people bitch and moan. Superstar stays in mid-card allowing better charcter development, people bitch and moan. Jesus ing Christ, come on. Different people bitch about different things. Both sides on this have been fairly consistent.
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Post by cmiller79 on Feb 8, 2015 22:16:55 GMT -5
I just hope ambrose ends up with the I.c title.it would be nice for it to happen at wrestlemaina
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Post by hbkowns on Feb 8, 2015 22:30:05 GMT -5
WFigs logic: Superstar get's pushed to the moon too fast, people bitch and moan. Superstar stays in mid-card allowing better charcter development, people bitch and moan. Jesus ing Christ, come on. The guy who's getting pushed to the moon fast should be in the spot Ambrose is in right now to develop a character. Because Roman has no character, in fact, he has the personality of a ham sandwich. Ambrose on the other hand is floundering on the road to the biggest show of the year when HE IS ready. Selling more merchandise and getting better reactions over the past 6 months that Roman doesn't. I don't buy the bs comment that Hunter made that "Nobody is ever 100% Ready". You're telling March of of 1998 that Austin wasn't 100% ready? Or that Rock in 2000 wasn't ready? Give me a break you're either ready or not, there's no in betweens. And Roman IS NOT READY. And will never be in my opinion. To argue with you're point, they should have a slow build with Roman to try to develop him long-term. Dean should be main eventing because HE IS READY. Not ready and needs work = slow build Good worker, good mic skills, good matches, and sells merchandise well = PUSH THAT MAN BECAUSE HE IS READY Simple.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 22:56:03 GMT -5
WFigs logic: Superstar get's pushed to the moon too fast, people bitch and moan. Superstar stays in mid-card allowing better charcter development, people bitch and moan. Jesus ing Christ, come on. The guy who's getting pushed to the moon fast should be in the spot Ambrose is in right now to develop a character. Because Roman has no character, in fact, he has the personality of a ham sandwich. Ambrose on the other hand is floundering on the road to the biggest show of the year when HE IS ready. Selling more merchandise and getting better reactions over the past 6 months that Roman doesn't. I don't buy the bs comment that Hunter made that "Nobody is ever 100% Ready". You're telling March of of 1998 that Austin wasn't 100% ready? Or that Rock in 2000 wasn't ready? Give me a break you're either ready or not, there's no in betweens. And Roman IS NOT READY. And will never be in my opinion. To argue with you're point, they should have a slow build with Roman to try to develop him long-term. Dean should be main eventing because HE IS READY. Not ready and needs work = slow build Good worker, good mic skills, good matches, and sells merchandise well = PUSH THAT MAN BECAUSE HE IS READY Simple. It's not really that simple at all. Ambrose's character benefits from the slow build too. He's ready from a talent standpoint, sure, but the character itself needs to be built up more. That said, Roman still needs about a year before winning the big one at least, but hey, maybe he'll stumble into a decent title run.
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Post by facemeat on Feb 8, 2015 23:47:23 GMT -5
I don't know why people assume this is the start of a slow build. When was the last time WWE used the IC title with the intent of building someone up to main event level and actually succeeded in that goal? Look at every IC champion going back 5 years...it reads like a who's who of people who were relatively new and failed to get over, lifelong midcarders, and a few who flirted with the main event scene briefly, fell down the card, and never made it past the midcard again.
Ambrose would have to buck a pretty powerful trend to be the first person in many years to win the IC title, successfully use it as a stepping stone to the main event scene, and actually remain there for any length of time. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I don't see that happening, especially after seeing how poorly he was booked during his first pseudo-main-event run, and how they book most midcard champions in general.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 0:34:31 GMT -5
I don't know why people assume this is the start of a slow build. When was the last time WWE used the IC title with the intent of building someone up to main event level and actually succeeded in that goal? Look at every IC champion going back 5 years...it reads like a who's who of people who were relatively new and failed to get over, lifelong midcarders, and a few who flirted with the main event scene briefly, fell down the card, and never made it past the midcard again. Ambrose would have to buck a pretty powerful trend to be the first person in many years to win the IC title, successfully use it as a stepping stone to the main event scene, and actually remain there for any length of time. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I don't see that happening, especially after seeing how poorly he was booked during his first pseudo-main-event run, and how they book most midcard champions in general. Yes, you're being pessimistic.
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Post by Weemanv1 on Feb 9, 2015 3:59:26 GMT -5
WFigs logic: Superstar get's pushed to the moon too fast, people bitch and moan. Superstar stays in mid-card allowing better charcter development, people bitch and moan. Jesus ing Christ, come on. Bitches and moans about "Wfigs logic" Is a part of Wfigs
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Feb 9, 2015 6:33:07 GMT -5
Did Dean F'n Ambrose hack into your account?..
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 9, 2015 9:46:07 GMT -5
WFigs logic: Superstar get's pushed to the moon too fast, people bitch and moan. Superstar stays in mid-card allowing better charcter development, people bitch and moan. Jesus ing Christ, come on. Bitches and moans about "Wfigs logic" Is a part of Wfigs He's not as guilty as some others, but bitching about "WF Logic" while being a member of WF is one of the hip new trends around here.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 9, 2015 19:02:30 GMT -5
I don't know why people assume this is the start of a slow build. When was the last time WWE used the IC title with the intent of building someone up to main event level and actually succeeded in that goal? At a guess, Jeff Hardy in 2007/2008. But most of the IC champions since then have been incredibly boring (Cody, Axel), severely lacking something (Ziggler, Kofi, Morrison) or blew it by forcing plans to change (Barrett). The only one where it really should have led to bigger things was Drew McIntyre, and he didn't live up to his initial push, which pretty much killed his chances forever.
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Post by PVA on Feb 10, 2015 6:50:55 GMT -5
I think it's pretty clear he'll end up with the IC title sometime soon. Which is about where he should be. Maybe bring some credibility to title again. Nice to see someone WANT that title for a change.
Ambrose still needs improvement tho, an upper mid card solo feud should be good. He doesn't have the big monster roman reigns look nor is he as polished as Rollins or Bryan. Everyone can't be main eventing I agree with the majority.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 10:18:46 GMT -5
Ambrose is destined to be in the upper mid card with the occasional main event.
He can have a hell of a career doing that.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Feb 10, 2015 16:21:59 GMT -5
I really dig both BNB and Ambrose, so let them go at it, I say. It will be cool to have a nice IC title feud.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Feb 11, 2015 3:30:50 GMT -5
I would say it's definitely overreacting. He'll get his shot in the main event. I like the idea of doing a slow build with him. Me too. Now, I love Roman Reigns but I do wish they would've slow burned him, instead of ripping him through a bong so quick. As far as Ambrose is concerned, I'm glad they're slow burning him. Why rush it? He has plenty of time to become the man. I wouldn't worry about him becoming a Main Eventer. That'll come in time. Besides, right now we really don't need all of The Shield members in the World Title picture at once. We need some major players in the mid-card too, like the good ol' days. I hate this idea that everybody seems to want everybody who's any good to immediately be catapulted to the Main Event.
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Post by rustyy on Feb 11, 2015 3:34:41 GMT -5
WFigs logic: Superstar get's pushed to the moon too fast, people bitch and moan. Superstar stays in mid-card allowing better charcter development, people bitch and moan. Jesus ing Christ, come on. Have you been watching over the last years? Staying in the mid card too long is suicide for your career. Kofi, Wade, Sandow, Rhodes, all screwed because WWE only have one setting, main event or nothing. If you don't start at the top, you stay at the bottom/middle with a few RARE exceptions.
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