Tyler Black
Main Eventer
the former #1 Tyler Black fan/Tyler F'n Black
Joined on: Jul 19, 2009 15:37:40 GMT -5
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Post by Tyler Black on Nov 25, 2015 13:52:31 GMT -5
I'm not shocked. Personally I skipped the intro and the main event because I refuse to watch sheamus as champion. Until Seth, Cesaro, and Tyson Kidd come back, I'll only watch for New Day, Owens, Neville, Breeze, Ambrose and maybe what's going on with the tag division. Everything else is an easy pass.
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Post by deskjet on Nov 25, 2015 14:59:55 GMT -5
Love and hip hop is a horrid show. This is saying alot Who even watches it? I've never once heard it brought up in conversation, and hadn't heard of it at all until I read that it consistently beats RAW. It's good if you like tna and I ain't talkin bout the wrestling show. Or maybe it's the same thing?
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Post by SodaGuy on Nov 25, 2015 15:06:46 GMT -5
No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings.
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Post by IRS on Nov 25, 2015 16:28:06 GMT -5
No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. The Bunny is dead. Deader than dead. Move on already.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 25, 2015 16:41:24 GMT -5
No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. Small Smackdown spoiler here Adam Rose brings Bunny stew to Thanksgiving dinner.
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Post by Planktung on Nov 25, 2015 16:52:26 GMT -5
No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. Small Smackdown spoiler here Adam Rose brings Bunny stew to Thanksgiving dinner. Bunny stew doesn't necessarily mean it was THE Bunny. He's alive. Don't doubt it. y'all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 16:54:56 GMT -5
IRS and I personally killed the Bunny in Willow's cabin, so I don't know what you're all going on about.
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Post by IRS on Nov 25, 2015 17:11:58 GMT -5
IRS and I personally killed the Bunny in Willow's cabin, so I don't know what you're all going on about. He's RIP in pieces SIX.. SIX... SIX FEET DEEP.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 17:14:00 GMT -5
IRS and I personally killed the Bunny in Willow's cabin, so I don't know what you're all going on about. He's RIP in pieces SIX.. SIX... SIX FEET DEEP.
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Post by SodaGuy on Nov 25, 2015 19:17:01 GMT -5
No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. No Rollins, No Bunny, No Ratings. Small Smackdown spoiler here Adam Rose brings Bunny stew to Thanksgiving dinner.
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Post by Squid: The Anti-Hero on Nov 26, 2015 0:26:53 GMT -5
WWE would love it if everyone would believe this had anything to do with Monday Night Football. But we don't, because it's not true. History has shown that the quality of the game isn't a huge swaying factor in relation to Raw ratings. They're just hemorrhaging viewers, regardless of what teams they're matched up against. Using football as an excuse for the abysmal decline is a total cop-out, but it's exactly what WWE is going to do, because Vince McMahon is a clueless coward who has entirely lost sight of how to run a wrestling promotion. That isn't really up for debate anymore. The lack of change in correlation with the ratings prove it. The appropriate course of action is not to weather the storm. They've tried that, and it failed. People don't like the product. Period. They're driving away casual viewers. They're driving away die-hards. They're becoming less desirable to advertisers by the second. Dipping below 2.5 should have been enough to make wholesale changes. This rating should be enough to fundamentally change every facet of how they produce television. It's alarming. It's flat out embarrassing, and it's a horrible sign for the future of professional wrestling as a viable money-making form of entertainment. Every time these reports come in, we say "this must be the new water level", but it isn't. It gets worse. What is going to take for investors to step in and demand changes? And at that point, what is the likelihood that Vince McMahon has the mental capacity to realize that the changes need to start with him? To say football has NOTHING to do with it is ludicrous. I never really got into football real heavy but I'd gladly sit down and watch a game over the current product any day
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Nov 26, 2015 1:23:02 GMT -5
Join us next week on RAW, when Roman Reigns goes one-on-one in our main event with King Barrett!
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Nov 29, 2015 21:04:49 GMT -5
They won't blame the Sheamus title run or the results of Survivor Series. They'll blame something else. Football. Love and Hip-Hop. Cesaro for getting hurt. The lack of top draws like Big Show. That's one thing that annoys me about both the wrestling companies and wrestling websites that make excuses as to why they got a low rating. TNA would do this as well every week and it seems as if WWE is doing this as well. How come wrestling is the only entertainment thing always has an excuse as to why they got a low rating? For the wrestling websites blaming shows like Monday Night Football as example, they seem to forget that football was around when RAW was doing 6s and 7s.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 6:27:08 GMT -5
Tonight is 3-7 Baltimore against 2-8 Cleveland.
If they do another horrible number with that crap game then it's a sign the ship is sinking.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Nov 30, 2015 6:48:08 GMT -5
Good, now maybe they'll improve the product.
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Post by specterkev on Nov 30, 2015 6:56:19 GMT -5
They won't blame the Sheamus title run or the results of Survivor Series. They'll blame something else. Football. Love and Hip-Hop. Cesaro for getting hurt. The lack of top draws like Big Show. Why should they? The ratings were dropping well before shaemus became champ..
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 30, 2015 8:40:40 GMT -5
Road Dogg towing the corporate line on Twitter and making himself out to be a fool is hysterical. "Ratings are archaic and don't matter" is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. Television lives and dies by the ratings. Yes, WWE has tons of other revenue generators, but each and every one of them is impacted one or way or another by the number of people watching their television product. In the interest of fairness, networks aren't necessarily as interested in "day of" ratings anymore because of the potential for people to have DVR'd it on say Monday but not watch it until later in the week. The "ratings don't matter" part of his statement is moronic but relying solely on Nielsen numbers is archaic. Tonight is 3-7 Baltimore against 2-8 Cleveland. If they do another horrible number with that crap game then it's a sign the ship is sinking. I wouldn't say the ship is sinking, that implies that they're going out of business in the next few years. As far as I know they aren't hemorrhaging money at the moment like TNA and TNA's been in business for like at least 10 years past the point where people started predicting their imminent doom. And really that's the most important thing. The USA won't pull them from their network because it's still the highest rated show on the network (I'm reasonably certain) and they still bring in decent ad revenue. As much as it sucks, the WWE is still doing decent business. The Network is still hauling in money and such. You may be frustrated with the product (I know I am, hence as I've said before, I've stopped watching the weekly TV shows outside of NXT) but it's not REALLY a sinking ship.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 8:47:51 GMT -5
Road Dogg towing the corporate line on Twitter and making himself out to be a fool is hysterical. "Ratings are archaic and don't matter" is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. Television lives and dies by the ratings. Yes, WWE has tons of other revenue generators, but each and every one of them is impacted one or way or another by the number of people watching their television product. In the interest of fairness, networks aren't necessarily as interested in "day of" ratings anymore because of the potential for people to have DVR'd it on say Monday but not watch it until later in the week. The "ratings don't matter" part of his statement is moronic but relying solely on Nielsen numbers is archaic. Tonight is 3-7 Baltimore against 2-8 Cleveland. If they do another horrible number with that crap game then it's a sign the ship is sinking. I wouldn't say the ship is sinking, that implies that they're going out of business in the next few years. As far as I know they aren't hemorrhaging money at the moment like TNA and TNA's been in business for like at least 10 years past the point where people started predicting their imminent doom. And really that's the most important thing. The USA won't pull them from their network because it's still the highest rated show on the network (I'm reasonably certain) and they still bring in decent ad revenue. As much as it sucks, the WWE is still doing decent business. The Network is still hauling in money and such. You may be frustrated with the product (I know I am, hence as I've said before, I've stopped watching the weekly TV shows outside of NXT) but it's not REALLY a sinking ship. I cant honestly tell you the last time ive watched any wwe program from start to finish. I will still watch here and there but I don't give my full time to it anymore.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 30, 2015 8:54:51 GMT -5
In the interest of fairness, networks aren't necessarily as interested in "day of" ratings anymore because of the potential for people to have DVR'd it on say Monday but not watch it until later in the week. The "ratings don't matter" part of his statement is moronic but relying solely on Nielsen numbers is archaic. I wouldn't say the ship is sinking, that implies that they're going out of business in the next few years. As far as I know they aren't hemorrhaging money at the moment like TNA and TNA's been in business for like at least 10 years past the point where people started predicting their imminent doom. And really that's the most important thing. The USA won't pull them from their network because it's still the highest rated show on the network (I'm reasonably certain) and they still bring in decent ad revenue. As much as it sucks, the WWE is still doing decent business. The Network is still hauling in money and such. You may be frustrated with the product (I know I am, hence as I've said before, I've stopped watching the weekly TV shows outside of NXT) but it's not REALLY a sinking ship. I cant honestly tell you the last time ive watched any wwe program from start to finish. I will still watch here and there but I don't give my full time to it anymore. I think the last full episode of RAW I recall watching was the Christmas one where Del Rio ran over Santa with his car... That must have been what... 3 years ago at least? I couldn't even hazard a guess at the last full Smackdown I watched. It just got to be such a pain in the ass to sit through 5 hours a week at least of their crap. Full disclosure: I absolutely loved the Christmas episode where Del Rio ran over Santa with his car... I may have watched episodes after that and that may just be the last episode I enjoyed watching.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Nov 30, 2015 8:55:19 GMT -5
Tonight is 3-7 Baltimore against 2-8 Cleveland. If they do another horrible number with that crap game then it's a sign the ship is sinking. Id rather watch this game than the crap wwe has been putting out...
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