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Post by J12 on Nov 30, 2015 13:17:20 GMT -5
Road Dogg towing the corporate line on Twitter and making himself out to be a fool is hysterical. "Ratings are archaic and don't matter" is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. Television lives and dies by the ratings. Yes, WWE has tons of other revenue generators, but each and every one of them is impacted one or way or another by the number of people watching their television product. In the interest of fairness, networks aren't necessarily as interested in "day of" ratings anymore because of the potential for people to have DVR'd it on say Monday but not watch it until later in the week. The "ratings don't matter" part of his statement is moronic but relying solely on Nielsen numbers is archaic. Tonight is 3-7 Baltimore against 2-8 Cleveland. If they do another horrible number with that crap game then it's a sign the ship is sinking. I wouldn't say the ship is sinking, that implies that they're going out of business in the next few years. As far as I know they aren't hemorrhaging money at the moment like TNA and TNA's been in business for like at least 10 years past the point where people started predicting their imminent doom. And really that's the most important thing. The USA won't pull them from their network because it's still the highest rated show on the network (I'm reasonably certain) and they still bring in decent ad revenue. As much as it sucks, the WWE is still doing decent business. The Network is still hauling in money and such. You may be frustrated with the product (I know I am, hence as I've said before, I've stopped watching the weekly TV shows outside of NXT) but it's not REALLY a sinking ship. I'm sure WWE pulls in some additional numbers from DVR viewership and Hulu, but remember, their primary negotiating point on their current TV deal was the fact that their product was "DVR proof like football." No matter how you slice it, if they can't dramatically improve, they're going to lose all of their negotiating power on the next rights deal.
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Cameron Stone
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Post by Cameron Stone on Nov 30, 2015 15:02:05 GMT -5
I think more so than the people being pushed the authority is to blame, everyone I know is just completely sick of it. To me, this stsrted when they brought them back a month after they were gone after last year's Survivor Series. It's such a dull status quo. The promos to start the show every week seemingly don't help. Why not start things off with a great match every once in a while?
RAW is so paint by numbers now, you pretty much can predict the shows outline step by step, and people are getting tired of it.
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Post by Jeremiah on Nov 30, 2015 15:11:21 GMT -5
Cruiserweight matches helped wcw open up shows
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Post by Sleazyness on Nov 30, 2015 16:53:01 GMT -5
Im kind of glad the ratings sunk.
Other promotions are on TV and I don't mean TNA.
People might start looking else where and maybe it will lead to WWE being in a panic for ratings causing them to do something extreme.
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Sandman
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Post by Sandman on Nov 30, 2015 17:06:50 GMT -5
This is the great & mighty unstoppable WWE empire we're talking about here, it doesn't matter how low the ratings get they always manage to pull through & will always be around. Nothing can stop them, this is like a dent, a tiny chink in the armour, Vince, his boyfriend Kevin Dunn & their yes men all scoff & laugh at these low numbers back at headquarters up in the WWE titan towers. I mean sure tough times like these would get TNA in a panic but WWE?.. nah..
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Dec 1, 2015 13:11:43 GMT -5
I'm not shocked. Personally I skipped the intro and the main event because I refuse to watch sheamus as champion. Hahaha! Somebody call the WAAAHMbulance.
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Tyler Black
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Post by Tyler Black on Dec 1, 2015 18:36:05 GMT -5
I'm not shocked. Personally I skipped the intro and the main event because I refuse to watch sheamus as champion. Hahaha! Somebody call the WAAAHMbulance. I know he's your thing or whatever, just like Seth is my guy, but sheamus couldn't be a more boring champion to me. The only reason I didn't change the channel when he came on this week, was because he was paired with new day and Rusev
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hbchris
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Post by hbchris on Dec 2, 2015 22:41:19 GMT -5
The low ratings will surely be blamed on a lack of John Cena. Please look forward to every match and every segment being nothing but Cena from here on out. He will five-knuckle shuffle himself in the main event.
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Post by J12 on Dec 2, 2015 23:14:36 GMT -5
The rating rebounded slightly this week, to a 2.21. Still tied for the second lowest of the year. Still losing over a quarter of a million viewers by the hour, and still performing immensely poorly in the key 18-49 male demo, which they've never struggled with before.
By comparison, last year's show at this time drew a 2.79, up against a weak Dolphins/Jets MNF match-up.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 3, 2015 16:25:45 GMT -5
The low ratings will surely be blamed on a lack of John Cena. Please look forward to every match and every segment being nothing but Cena from here on out. He will five-knuckle shuffle himself in the main event. I don't think that's very PG.
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Post by JC Motors on Dec 3, 2015 16:29:27 GMT -5
Bring Raw back to 2 hours
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Post by A-Rob on Dec 3, 2015 16:38:10 GMT -5
I'm sure when Cena does return they will promote the hell out of it and pray for a gigantic bump in the ratings. Sadly that won't happen.
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Post by Rob on Dec 3, 2015 18:45:30 GMT -5
Cenas drawing days are over, Not that he was much of a draw to begin with. He became "the guy" fresh off the hottest boom period in wrestling history and the ratings have been on a downward spiral ever since. WWE needs a new Hogan/Austin type character that comes along and completely changes the course of wrestling again. That guy sure as hell isnt Roman Reigns and that guy probably isnt even in the company yet.
As a life long fan of WWE, its really sad to see the state the company is in right now.
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Post by J12 on Dec 3, 2015 19:47:30 GMT -5
I would suspect that once football ends and Rumble season kicks in, they'll rebound to the 2.5-2.6 range, which, by their normal standards is abysmal, but would probably feel like a monumental success to them right now.
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