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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 15, 2015 15:29:04 GMT -5
Last night still feels like a weird dream. The awful booking and the finish overall. I'm embarrassed to be a WWE fan right now and ashamed at the response that Reigns got in Philly of all places. That's the kind of BS I expect out of some podunk, craphole, mark town like Lexington. Did the usual Philly crowd just not show up because of how bad the product is? You need to see the speech or minutes long ovation he got after the show went off of the air. He earned phillys respect over the year and he acknowledged the fact that without their rumble reaction he might not of pushed himself to get better like he did. It was a genuine moment. Except for the fact that it wasn't your typical Philly crowd. Most of those fans aren't even going to spend money to hijack the show. It wasn't a genuine moment. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 15:29:15 GMT -5
This. Of course Roman can't touch her in today's PC world, but Stephanie emasculates the male roster and nothing can be done to her. I've noticed that for the past few years, heels just dominate everything. The internet would agree about heels dominate everything because all I ever read about is people losing their minds because heels aren't winning clean. The main event scene has been heel dominated for like 2 years now. They're usually the one's with the title. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 15:31:18 GMT -5
The internet would agree about heels dominate everything because all I ever read about is people losing their minds because heels aren't winning clean. The main event scene has been heel dominated for like 2 years now. They're usually the one's with the title. That is true. But I know I'm not the only who who sees people complaining about heels losing |
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Post by tiny04 on Dec 15, 2015 15:34:11 GMT -5
You need to see the speech or minutes long ovation he got after the show went off of the air. He earned phillys respect over the year and he acknowledged the fact that without their rumble reaction he might not of pushed himself to get better like he did. It was a genuine moment. Except for the fact that it wasn't your typical Philly crowd. Most of those fans aren't even going to spend money to hijack the show. It wasn't a genuine moment. What I've been saying. Completely different crowd from the Royal Rumble. Was like any other casual crowd in any other casual city last night. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 15:43:55 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe that the crowd pop for witnessing a title change, rather than it being in support of Roman.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 15:56:42 GMT -5
You guys are  ing pitiful. Grasping at any straw you can to find a reason to water this down. This thing some of you have with Roman feels like a bad Mean Girls spinoff. |
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 15, 2015 16:04:45 GMT -5
I'm glad he won, and most people are just upset because they didn't want Roman Reigns, the guy the WWE wanted to be on top, to get to the top. It's probably been said a billion times, but it is something that I took from all the WWE hate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 17:02:48 GMT -5
Why are we doing this? This whole "Roman only got over because of this guy","This wasnt the real phlly crowd" excuses I call BS.Roman was already over before any of this happened.He was over when he was in the shield and was over when they broke up.And No this isn't a shot towards anyone so I don't need anyone telling me "I like Roman and Im happy he won but....".Why is it that everything roman does when it's a good thing we gotta find Something to complain about?.That crowd reaction last night was For him because they liked what they saw.Roman is never gonna be this perfect superstar you want and he's never gonna be the perfect superstar I want.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Dec 15, 2015 17:21:21 GMT -5
You need to see the speech or minutes long ovation he got after the show went off of the air. He earned phillys respect over the year and he acknowledged the fact that without their rumble reaction he might not of pushed himself to get better like he did. It was a genuine moment. Except for the fact that it wasn't your typical Philly crowd. Most of those fans aren't even going to spend money to hijack the show. It wasn't a genuine moment. I was there live......it was genuine. |
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Post by MacReady on Dec 15, 2015 18:56:26 GMT -5
Except for the fact that it wasn't your typical Philly crowd. Most of those fans aren't even going to spend money to hijack the show. It wasn't a genuine moment. I was there live......it was genuine. "No you're a 7 year old kid that's the only people who were cheering for him...you don't know!!!" |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 19:14:50 GMT -5
I was there live......it was genuine. "No you're a 7 year old kid that's the only people who were cheering for him...you don't know!!!" Lol I can't believe people are really trying to say oh yeah no way that was a real Philly crowd. Good Lord. Fact is.. Roman got over with the same crowd that booed him out of the building less than a year ago. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 15, 2015 20:05:22 GMT -5
Raw was outstanding. Ending was epic. Thread is delicious. Future is bright.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 20:13:25 GMT -5
Raw was outstanding. Ending was epic. Thread is delicious. Future is bright. As soon as he won the title, I expected the usual tantrums. Didn't want to get too excited until it died down cause arguments are pointless. I'm on two other, and bigger, forums and most loved RAW/like Reigns as Champion. This one is overtly negative for whatever reason. |
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Post by MattelsRule on Dec 15, 2015 20:16:20 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe that the crowd pop for witnessing a title change, rather than it being in support of Roman. I think that's definitely part of it. I was there live. It was exciting but I think it's a mix of a couple of things - A. The crowd was hot because Vince was back. B. Sheamus is universally disliked as champion. C. A title change happened on RAW which almost never ever ever happens. D. Roman was booked really well the night before. Roman is still going to get heat from hardcore fans - but he is definitely starting to win people over. I have no huge issue with him. I respect the hell out of him. Not a huge fan of his mic work, the way he's been booked or how amazing he is in the ring - but for what he is, he's doing a good job and he's effective. We will see where it all goes from here. Personally, I hope he's booked to defend the title in the Royal Rumble match with the #1 entry. That would be fun. |
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Post by MattelsRule on Dec 15, 2015 20:19:39 GMT -5
You need to see the speech or minutes long ovation he got after the show went off of the air. He earned phillys respect over the year and he acknowledged the fact that without their rumble reaction he might not of pushed himself to get better like he did. It was a genuine moment. Except for the fact that it wasn't your typical Philly crowd. Most of those fans aren't even going to spend money to hijack the show. It wasn't a genuine moment. There were more adults in my area than kids. I was at TLC and there were tons of kids around me. I think there was absolutely a real Philly WWE crowd there last night. It was a packed house, good energy and a really nice show overall. I was very surprised. Used to getting crapon in Philly. Haha. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 15, 2015 20:54:36 GMT -5
Except for the fact that it wasn't your typical Philly crowd. Most of those fans aren't even going to spend money to hijack the show. It wasn't a genuine moment. There were more adults in my area than kids. I was at TLC and there were tons of kids around me. I think there was absolutely a real Philly WWE crowd there last night. It was a packed house, good energy and a really nice show overall. I was very surprised. Used to getting crap on in Philly. Haha. I'm sure there was a nice little section of typical Philly fans but it wasn't anywhere near what the Rumble or past shows there have been. Gotta be honest here. I'm a big Roman supporter but a lot of last nights final crowd reactions is all due to Vince and his ability to play the most heinous POS ever and people absolutely love to hate him. |
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Post by mr256 on Dec 16, 2015 0:49:26 GMT -5
Reigns would have killed Vince with a spear!
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Post by J12 on Dec 16, 2015 13:20:18 GMT -5
The argument about it being a "real" Philly crowd is entirely irrelevant. It was most likely a different crowd from the one that was at the Rumble. People travel for the Rumble. By and large, people don't travel to a random Raw. Different doesn't disqualify the reaction.
Raw was in Philadelphia. Roman Reigns was over there. The end. They could go back in three weeks and he could get booed out of the building. Hell, depending on how things go next week, he could get booed out of the building in whatever city they're in.
His situation is immensely fragile, but for the last ten minutes of TLC, and the entirety of Raw, Roman Reigns was more over than he's ever been as a singles babyface. Who gives a crap who was in the audience.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Dec 18, 2015 1:43:45 GMT -5
Or maybe Philly is a smart crowd and decided to acknowledge his improvement over this year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 1:51:56 GMT -5
...as usual, I've only seen the Raw recap, so can only comment on what it showed...
- The segment with New Day dragged and ended quite oddly...
- The rematch between 'Team ECW' and The Wyatts seemed to be quite intense in parts, and looked to get a lot of positive reactions from the crowd.
- The vignette of Reigns winning was edited quite well to show him as the conqueror of the League of Nations.
Not bad. Not great, but not bad.
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