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Post by attitudesback on Aug 16, 2016 12:02:30 GMT -5
So, Finn has finally debuted on main roster WWE and looks like a HUGE deal right now. But, the most important part of his character (and possibly only) has been handled less than greatly in some people's eyes.
Do you guys think it's a cool idea or has the WWE ruined it a little? I really can't decide if it's the coolest concept in a while or "oh wow he got some paint on him? uh ok".
What do you guys think seeing the 'Demon King' come out like he did last night? Is the NXT mystique gone?
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 16, 2016 12:11:09 GMT -5
Demon Balor is cool. But this "Demon King" title is eh
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Post by BSR on Aug 16, 2016 12:18:02 GMT -5
I've never really been a fan of demon or dead man or Kane type gimmicks. Balor is fine and all, but the name "demon king" is one of the most ridiculous things to continuously repeat over and over all night.
It made most of raw unbearable for me.
That and it's just as stupid to call Kane the demon Kane as well.
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Post by jcjdotcom on Aug 16, 2016 12:18:30 GMT -5
Cool, wrestling needs unrealism to go with the realism. Plus it doesn't have to be supernatural - the paint just puts him in a different state of mind.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 16, 2016 12:25:31 GMT -5
Lets be honest Balor needs it. He wouldn't be half as popular if the Demon didn't exist and it is something that attracts the audience.
However I feel that the demon character is being used better than in NXT. He only used to paint hinself to sell tickets for Takeover's and there was no real story behind the demon's presence. At least now he's bringing the demon into a storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 12:27:59 GMT -5
The crawling entrance wasn't so bad for NXT's short ramp. The crawling entrance is a bit much for Raw's ramp. The crawling entrance will be laughable for a WrestleMania ramp.
The paint and concept are cool, wish he would lose the Rasta dreads and gauntlet streamer things. He can go out with just the paint and be fine.
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Post by drifter on Aug 16, 2016 12:28:06 GMT -5
Cool, wrestling needs unrealism to go with the realism. Plus it doesn't have to be supernatural - the paint just puts him in a different state of mind. Exactly. Like Graves said last night, The Demon is the dark part of Finn's personality that he usually keeps locked up, and he lets it out when he has to reach a level for a big match. A way to psych himself up even more, while at the same time, playing mind games with his opponent, psyching them out.
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Post by c-scope on Aug 16, 2016 12:29:00 GMT -5
Lets be honest Balor needs it. He wouldn't be half as popular if the Demon didn't exist and it is something that attracts the audience. However I feel that the demon character is being used better than in NXT. He only used to paint hinself to sell tickets for Takeover's and there was no real story behind the demon's presence. At least now he's bringing the demon into a storyline. balor would be just fine without the paint. Yeah it helps with his popularity, but he's still a kick ass wrestler.
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Post by bababooey on Aug 16, 2016 12:29:09 GMT -5
The Demon is cool. The "Demon King" sounds like more of WWE's marketing mumbo jumbo. In NXT the Demon was a cool extra thing he did. In WWE it almost seems like he's less than if he's not the "Demon King."
Also, they gotta get together with Finn and Triple H and figure out how to film his entrance properly. The camera seems to miss some shots or get to shots too early. We shouldn't see Finn crawling out to the center of the stage. He should already be in the smoke when the camera zooms on him.
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Post by attitudesback on Aug 16, 2016 12:38:28 GMT -5
Thought this would be interesting discussion. I like the whole "dark part of his character" but surely the moves should be different? Would like to see a more split personality
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 16, 2016 12:38:47 GMT -5
Lets be honest Balor needs it. He wouldn't be half as popular if the Demon didn't exist and it is something that attracts the audience. However I feel that the demon character is being used better than in NXT. He only used to paint hinself to sell tickets for Takeover's and there was no real story behind the demon's presence. At least now he's bringing the demon into a storyline. balor would be just fine without the paint. Yeah it helps with his popularity, but he's still a kick ass wrestler. He's awful on the mic and that's his main weakness.
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Post by BSR on Aug 16, 2016 12:39:47 GMT -5
Thought this would be interesting discussion. I like the whole "dark part of his character" but surely the moves should be different? Would like to see a more split personality He could at least have different moves for each personality. Good Lord his finish is bad.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 16, 2016 12:39:55 GMT -5
Cool, wrestling needs unrealism to go with the realism. Plus it doesn't have to be supernatural - the paint just puts him in a different state of mind. Exactly. Like Graves said last night, The Demon is the dark part of Finn's personality that he usually keeps locked up, and he lets it out when he has to reach a level for a big match. A way to psych himself up even more, while at the same time, playing mind games with his opponent, psyching them out. It's like Foley. He wore a different costume for each peronality.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 16, 2016 12:43:36 GMT -5
Demon Balor is a badass, super marketable look that I never get sick of seeing. That being said, I would have liked for WWE to have saved its appearance for Summerslam so it's more special. I also kinda dig the Demon King nickname. It's not the crappiest nickname that the WWE has attempted to force as of late (See: Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns)
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Post by J12 on Aug 16, 2016 12:46:15 GMT -5
I think it will translate well. "The Demon King" moniker is silly and unnecessary, though. Partially because they're pushing it so hard, but mostly because it sounds way too much like "The Demon Kane" when its rolling off of announcer's and talent's tongues quickly.
Finn has a natural charisma about him that will make it work. The paint is cool. Kids will like it, a decent portion of the adult fanbase is already familiar with it, and the rest of them shouldn't really have any negative connotations about it. It's superhero-esque, which is not only popular, but commonplace in pro wrestling.
My biggest fear is that they over utilize it and diminish its value. After last night, it should almost never be busted out on TV. I would go so far as to say it shouldn't even be at every Pay-Per-View, only those where the feud has become substantially heated. I also think that there needs to be a clear narrative that its not supernatural in nature, but rather, a state of mind or a zone that Finn taps into when the odds are stacked against him. Thus far, they've done a fairly decent job at that.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 16, 2016 12:56:07 GMT -5
I think "Demon King" is super lame. And it sounds too much like Demon Kane which is also a lame name.
Call me a two year old but I was mildly creeped out. I don't like the demon voices before his entrance. And the whole face paint thing is weird. I don't like his theme song either. Can't he just be Finn Balor? Why he gotta be the Demon King? Lol. Imo, Finn is very talented and very handsome but his mic skills and gimmick are a snooze fest. Sorry Finn : (
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 12:58:19 GMT -5
I've been walking around outside all morning looking for this "Demon King".
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Post by rowdy1971 on Aug 16, 2016 13:02:05 GMT -5
He looks cool with the paint and everything but it just was wasted last night for that little "brawl" they had. It would have been much better to tease it and wait for the grand reveal at Summerfest. I'm sure that takes hours to apply and only to be seen for less then a couple of minutes was really silly.
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Post by Rob on Aug 16, 2016 13:07:34 GMT -5
Its fine, I just dont like how its basically a rehashed Kane gimmick when he was the Authority figure and "Demon Kane" was his alter ego.
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Post by Ember's Flame on Aug 16, 2016 13:11:45 GMT -5
Demon King is awesome. I think his entrance alone Sunday will change a lot of your minds. Also the "Demon" was never not cool to me. Even if I'm not at a show I'll still do the arm thing in his song.
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