BorrachoBancho
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Post by BorrachoBancho on Jan 10, 2017 13:22:18 GMT -5
Not really, he has branched out from being just Trevor from GTA. He was a key character in the most resent Walking Dead episodes as well as a prominent character on Westworld. Two of the years biggest shows. Like I said with Walten Goggins, 2 more years and the dude will be a household name. He seems like a genuinely funny guy too. I really hope he gets to shine more on TWD as the season plays on, and isn't just a throw away villain for them to kill off suddenly. To add to the discussion, another infuriating thing about Jakks was how they'd randomly, out of nowhere, show signs of brilliance with a release. Colin Delany with new molds head to toe, Miz with all the paint apps, DA Umaga (still one of my favorite figures ever), UFC Kendal Grove with pretty good scale and great tattoo/short logo details, the molds to fix Bearer, etc. And even a majority of the heads they created had fantastic likenesses to the stars. But as was the typical norm for them, they'd never legitimately take the next step forward with the overall quality of their product. For some reason, people like that Outsiders set posted on the first page. Maybe it's the color scheme, or maybe people legitimately think it's a fine piece of work top to bottom. Regardless, you can't ignore that Diesel and Nash were given an inaccurate denim jeans mold that debuted in the very first RA 2pk series years prior lol. |
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Post by popyduggan on Jan 10, 2017 13:47:18 GMT -5
My favorite figures of all time are the BCA's. Boy they were so special when I was a kid and felt very collectible. Once the TTL's were introduced WWE figures lost their magic and they just looked so boring and most shared the same bodies. I just felt that from 1999/2009 WWE figures were lame ass action figures that I only collected because it was a hobby. Yeah, and it was especially disheartening find out later that Jakks were trying to kill the BCAs as early as the stomp series, like why would you want to kill something so successful? I remember going to TRU, seeing TTL1 in the Survivor Series cards, I think they were 2 or 3 dollars more expensive, no rubber, worse looking imo, and forced stupid gimmicks. I don't think I bought any until Al Snow's first figure, then only the special ones, like TTL5 Y2J and Taker, Regal, Steph, and those Moments(?) 2 packs with tag teams and feuds. Thank goodness Mattel hasn't derailed the basic and elite lines yet. |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jan 10, 2017 13:51:10 GMT -5
My favorite figures of all time are the BCA's. Boy they were so special when I was a kid and felt very collectible. Once the TTL's were introduced WWE figures lost their magic and they just looked so boring and most shared the same bodies. I just felt that from 1999/2009 WWE figures were lame ass action figures that I only collected because it was a hobby. Yeah, and it was especially disheartening find out later that Jakks were trying to kill the BCAs as early as the stomp series, like why would you want to kill something so successful? I remember going to TRU, seeing TTL1 in the Survivor Series cards, I think they were 2 or 3 dollars more expensive, no rubber, worse looking imo, and forced stupid gimmicks. I don't think I bought any until Al Snow's first figure, then only the special ones, like TTL5 Y2J and Taker, Regal, Steph, and those Moments(?) 2 packs with tag teams and feuds. Thank goodness Mattel hasn't derailed the basic and elite lines yet. Al Snows first figures were BCAs  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 14:00:29 GMT -5
Not really, he has branched out from being just Trevor from GTA. He was a key character in the most resent Walking Dead episodes as well as a prominent character on Westworld. Two of the years biggest shows. Like I said with Walten Goggins, 2 more years and the dude will be a household name. He seems like a genuinely funny guy too. I really hope he gets to shine more on TWD as the season plays on, and isn't just a throw away villain for them to kill off suddenly. To add to the discussion, another infuriating thing about Jakks was how they'd randomly, out of nowhere, show signs of brilliance with a release. Colin Delany with new molds head to toe, Miz with all the paint apps, DA Umaga (still one of my favorite figures ever), UFC Kendal Grove with pretty good scale and great tattoo/short logo details, the molds to fix Bearer, etc. And even a majority of the heads they created had fantastic likenesses to the stars. But as was the typical norm for them, they'd never legitimately take the next step forward with the overall quality of their product. For some reason, people like that Outsiders set posted on the first page. Maybe it's the color scheme, or maybe people legitimately think it's a fine piece of work top to bottom. Regardless, you can't ignore that Diesel and Nash were given an inaccurate denim jeans mold that debuted in the very first RA 2pk series years prior lol. He's fantastic on TWD. I loved his exchanges with Rick in the season 6 finale especially. The whole last day on earth thing was pretty chilling, especially given how it all played out. |
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Post by screech on Jan 10, 2017 14:21:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 15:31:49 GMT -5
screechThose are all disturbingly accurate.
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Post by One Punch Reigns on Jan 10, 2017 15:33:31 GMT -5
Both brands have their strengths and weaknesses.
Jakks had great scans most of the time (Especially their Classics line), soft goods more often than not, but their articulation was archaic even for the time (When Toybiz had the Marvel Legends line and smoked Jakks on that front) and scale issues (A ripped Doink, Undertaker-sized Rey Mysterios)
Mattel has QC issues from paint to stiff joints and more stringent requirements for legend figures (Unlike Jakks able to sign an estate for a license) and some of the scans are questionable, but the articulation is competitive to other brands (Even if it's not the greatest), the figures are in scale for the most part, and the deco can be outstanding when QC is on point.
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Post by CampCornette on Jan 10, 2017 15:59:02 GMT -5
screech I'm still waiting for a sequel...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 16:03:26 GMT -5
screech I'm still waiting for a sequel... I second that. |
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thelostweekend
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Post by thelostweekend on Jan 10, 2017 17:46:20 GMT -5
It's funny. I've been collecting since the first series of Hasbro figures were on store pegs, which means I lived through and was an active part of the Jakks BCA era. At one point, I had more than 200 MOC BCA. (current total market value of about $14) And even in the thick of collecting them, I never LOVED the line the way I did the LJN Wrestling Superstars or Hasbro figures.
The BCA feature barely worked, which was one of the reasons I switched to MOC early in the run. And while I got excited to see new figures on the shelves, I remember thinking even at the time how bad some of them looked. Awful scans, generic body molds, often wobbly joints. Just some real junk figures, even for the time. I think it was burnout from collecting those that zapped my interest in collecting for many years.
I tapped out right before the RA and CS lines got rolling, which was a shame, because by comparison to the BCA and TTL figures, those were marked improvements. Not only were we getting some much better head scans, but Jakks was finally rolling out figures of guys in the CS I never thought I'd see new figures of again.
TL;DR I think Jakks kind of sucks, but mostly because of the BCA and TTL figures.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 19:15:21 GMT -5
It's funny. I've been collecting since the first series of Hasbro figures were on store pegs, which means I lived through and was an active part of the Jakks BCA era. At one point, I had more than 200 MOC BCA. (current total market value of about $14) And even in the thick of collecting them, I never LOVED the line the way I did the LJN Wrestling Superstars or Hasbro figures. I LOLed |
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Post by wrestlingdelorean on Jan 10, 2017 19:41:34 GMT -5
Is that Gillberg?
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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Jan 10, 2017 19:49:41 GMT -5
When i was a kid I didn't care because everybody got destroyed the same
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Post by naparo01 on Jan 10, 2017 20:28:12 GMT -5
For those arguing about JAKKS price point being cheaper, remember the new ROH figures are essentially JAKKS figures and they're the same price and some more expensive then Mattel figures....so inflation needs to be considered. Inflation does not make that much of a difference. 10 bucks from 2006 is like 12 bucks in 2016 dollars. I think the high price of the new jacks style line is due to the smaller nubers being produced. |
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Post by naparo01 on Jan 10, 2017 20:33:34 GMT -5
Jakks was amazing in the beginning. Sure, we goy weird body choices and scale issues existed, but fast forward ten years later and a company with a larger catalog of parts makes the same mistakes. Both are/were great for their own time periods. I like Mattel's attention to detail and accessories. I liked Jakks' ability to make literally ANYONE they wanted! That awesome moment when you think "I totally agree with this," and then you look at the poster and see it's Theaxhennig and you think well of course I agree with him. |
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Post by popyduggan on Jan 10, 2017 20:33:40 GMT -5
Yeah, and it was especially disheartening find out later that Jakks were trying to kill the BCAs as early as the stomp series, like why would you want to kill something so successful? I remember going to TRU, seeing TTL1 in the Survivor Series cards, I think they were 2 or 3 dollars more expensive, no rubber, worse looking imo, and forced stupid gimmicks. I don't think I bought any until Al Snow's first figure, then only the special ones, like TTL5 Y2J and Taker, Regal, Steph, and those Moments(?) 2 packs with tag teams and feuds. Thank goodness Mattel hasn't derailed the basic and elite lines yet. Al Snows first figures were BCAs I was just talking about TTLs(Rulers of the Ring Al Snow), I couldn't buy any until they put realscan heads on those nightmare creatures. |
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Post by naparo01 on Jan 10, 2017 20:50:14 GMT -5
Oh don't get me wrong dude. Mattel has had more than their share of inexcusable  ups. Brown-haired, ponytailed RSC Nash. Constant issues of hair color and correct boots. Sting still having a goddamn wooden bat. And of course the paint mishaps and loose parts that have emerged over the years. But in spite of all that, it's still miles better than Jakks. And I don't excuse Jakks to the degree you do. But I do get it somewhat. I think low standards were to blame more than anything. They basically stayed in the lowest common denominator in terms of effort as long as it sold. And they completely phoned it in their last couple years. I feel like Mattel challenges themselves more to keep the line fresh. That isn't experience as much as it is just giving a shyt, something that Jakks seemed to stop doing after a while. I would say I excuse Jakks as much as I judge them against themselves. As I mentioned, we were getting RA style figures after they'd been around for what, 10 years? Mattel got the license after being around almost 70 years. For me, it's hard to compare the two realistically once I think about that fact. And as for this crap about the 7 foot Paul Bearer, since so many seem to complain about it and leave out the whole story, allow me to show the rest of it. Yes, the first Paul we got used the existing suit mold which was much too tall. Wrong call by Jakks. We complained. They listened, and they designed a new torso and leg mold that they only got 2 uses out of.  Not perfect, but let's at least remember that the figure as tall as Kane and the Undertaker wasn't the only version of Paul we ever got. In general I will take a Matty over a Jakks any day but both hold their merit. Thanks for sharing this side by side. This is an example of a Jakks head scan that I actually prefer to Matty's |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 20:52:29 GMT -5
   Mattel=young Kevin Nash Jakks=Barry Gibb from the Bee Gees That's hilarious 😂 |
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Post by naparo01 on Jan 10, 2017 20:57:01 GMT -5
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 10, 2017 21:04:13 GMT -5
My favorite figures of all time are the BCA's. Boy they were so special when I was a kid and felt very collectible. Once the TTL's were introduced WWE figures lost their magic and they just looked so boring and most shared the same bodies. I just felt that from 1999/2009 WWE figures were lame ass action figures that I only collected because it was a hobby. Same here, except I stopped buying wrestling figures completely (and shortly after stopped watching wrestling altogether) when the switch to TTL happened and just started buying figures again this summer when I ran into a couple Flashbacks while shopping. I don't know that I ever looked at BCA's as collectible, but as a kid they were perfect to play with. To me, the hard plastic era Jakks figures just aren't that visually appealing. But I also wasn't buying figures during that period. What makes them collectible is their cards. Those figures look awesome when displayed MOC and the art and graphic's on their cards made a lame repainted figure look like something special. Call me crazy but the BCA packaging is the greatest of all time and Jakks may have their faults but they nailed them perfectly. |
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