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Post by The Everlasting Spirit © on Feb 2, 2018 14:32:07 GMT -5
Bringing in Ronda Rousey is said to be a "Stephanie McMahon project" with the idea being to create a female superstar who is at the same level as the biggest male stars. The male equivalent would be someone like Roman Reigns.
Source: Rajah.com
Seriously they are wanting her to be the equivalent Roman Reigns? Guess they never learn.
Have to say I'm not an MMA fan hence her name and style does nothing for me but I think it's an insult to some of the current women's roster who are fantastic such as Asuka, Charlotte, Becky, Bayley and Nia to name a few who could easily be main eventing mania. I can see why Nia and Sasha have been voicing their displeasure on Twitter.
WWE don't need MMA stars - were Austin, Micheals, Undertaker, Hogan, Warrior or Macho MMA stars? No, but they were main eventers who were a big deal when wrestling was at its peak times. What WWE need to do is invest in their current stars that the fans resonate with in decent storylines. Well that and some healthy competition would go a long way!
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 2, 2018 14:47:08 GMT -5
3 of Ronda Rousey's 8 fights drew over a million buys...she good for business.
And it's not like WWE is bringing in Jennifer Aniston and having the whole lockeroom lay down for her....Ronda Rousey is legit one of the best fighters in the world, male or female. This is not going to be a situation where the will have to be a suspension of disbelief if/when she beats people like Sasha, Alexa, Bayley, etc...The only thing that's going to be a stretch is if STEPHANIE MCMAHON tries to have a match with her, which she probably will and we'll be asked to believe that Stephanie, a 41 year old mother of 3 stands a chance against a legit (former) MMA fighter.
And WWE has a problem because at the time periods the guys that you names were at the top, UFC either didn't exist or wasn't more popular than WWF. UFC and MMA is more popular than WWE and drawing more money and getting better buys on their PPV's.
So what is Vince McMahon and the WWE supposed to do? Turn down an opportunity to make a astronomical amount of money just because people on the internet think Sasha Banks or Nia Jax should be at the top? Everyone in the world knows who Ronda Rousey is. Ronda Rousey is going to bring in NEW fans who have never watched WWE.
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Post by J12 on Feb 2, 2018 15:18:18 GMT -5
There are conflicting reports as to whether the members of the women's roster voicing their displeasure about Ronda's arrival is a shoot, a work, or a combination of the two (as in, they're playing up their real feelings.)
They're entitled to be upset, but I think their anger is misguided, quite frankly. Anyone who can't rationalize why this move was made evidently doesn't understand the wrestling business. This kind of stuff has happened for decades, is happening now, and will continue to happen in the future. The aim of professional wrestling, and, especially WWE, is to make money. Ronda Rousey makes money. There is undoubtedly going to be a little bit of overshadowing going on. That is to be expected, and cannot be avoided when you plop one of the biggest female athletes of all time in the middle of a bunch of women who only just recently started to become serious members of the WWE roster. This elevates the women's division to a place it has never been, and quite honestly, probably never would have gotten to without her.
I suspect that, if the women in the locker room truly feel upset about this move, that they may change their tune once they're the one working opposite of Ronda and they start seeing their checks come in. In reality, what has to happen for these women to be credible opponents for Ronda? They need to be built up. They need to be featured prominently. They need to go on hot streaks. This forces WWE to pay closer attention to the women's division.
If Ronda ends up being absolutely horrible, or gets bored and gives up months into this project, then a discussion can be had about whether or not this was a good move. For now, though, there are reports that the people who have been around her at the Performance Center have taken a tremendous liking to her, both personally and professionally. By all accounts, she seems to be taking this very seriously, is showing a great deal of respect for the business and the performers in it, and is displaying a great attitude about everything. Let's not forget, she's not just some celebrity off the streets playing fantasy camp. She paid her dues the same way the members of the roster did, she just happened to do it in another sport.
Ronda is already the female equivalent of someone like Roman Reigns. She's bigger than Roman Reigns. The only two people on the entire roster that one could argue have more mainstream appeal and/or recognition are John Cena and Brock Lesnar.
I don't care if Stephanie McMahon is responsible for this, or she's just trying to take credit for it. If it works, it works.
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Post by blissfan4life on Feb 2, 2018 15:24:36 GMT -5
Which is why I feel she should stay away from the women's division and be the Stone Cold to Stephanie's Vince.
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Post by blissfan4life on Feb 2, 2018 15:25:33 GMT -5
There are conflicting reports as to whether the members of the women's roster voicing their displeasure about Ronda's arrival is a shoot, a work, or a combination of the two (as in, they're playing up their real feelings.) They're entitled to be upset, but I think their anger is misguided, quite frankly. Anyone who can't rationalize why this move was made evidently doesn't understand the wrestling business. This kind of stuff has happened for decades, is happening now, and will continue to happen in the future. The aim of professional wrestling, and, especially WWE, is to make money. Ronda Rousey makes money. There is undoubtedly going to be a little bit of overshadowing going on. That is to be expected, and cannot be avoided when you plop one of the biggest female athletes of all time in the middle of a bunch of women who only just recently started to become serious members of the WWE roster. This elevates the women's division to a place it has never been, and quite honestly, probably never would have gotten to without her. I suspect that, if the women in the locker room truly feel upset about this move, that they may change their tune once they're the one working opposite of Ronda and they start seeing their checks come in. In reality, what has to happen for these women to be credible opponents for Ronda? They need to be built up. They need to be featured prominently. They need to go on hot streaks. This forces WWE to pay closer attention to the women's division. If Ronda ends up being absolutely horrible, or gets bored and gives up months into this project, then a discussion can be had about whether or not this was a good move. For now, though, there are reports that the people who have been around her at the Performance Center have taken a tremendous liking to her, both personally and professionally. By all accounts, she seems to be taking this very seriously, is showing a great deal of respect for the business and the performers in it, and is displaying a great attitude about everything. Let's not forget, she's not just some celebrity off the streets playing fantasy camp. She paid her dues the same way the members of the roster did, she just happened to do it in another sport. Ronda is already the female equivalent of someone like Roman Reigns. She's bigger than Roman Reigns. The only two people on the entire roster that one could argue have more mainstream appeal and/or recognition are John Cena and Brock Lesnar. I don't care if Stephanie McMahon is responsible for this, or she's just trying to take credit for it. If it works, it works. Really an insult to the women to say that. They could garner attention themselves. |
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Post by J12 on Feb 2, 2018 15:28:17 GMT -5
There are conflicting reports as to whether the members of the women's roster voicing their displeasure about Ronda's arrival is a shoot, a work, or a combination of the two (as in, they're playing up their real feelings.) They're entitled to be upset, but I think their anger is misguided, quite frankly. Anyone who can't rationalize why this move was made evidently doesn't understand the wrestling business. This kind of stuff has happened for decades, is happening now, and will continue to happen in the future. The aim of professional wrestling, and, especially WWE, is to make money. Ronda Rousey makes money. There is undoubtedly going to be a little bit of overshadowing going on. That is to be expected, and cannot be avoided when you plop one of the biggest female athletes of all time in the middle of a bunch of women who only just recently started to become serious members of the WWE roster. This elevates the women's division to a place it has never been, and quite honestly, probably never would have gotten to without her. I suspect that, if the women in the locker room truly feel upset about this move, that they may change their tune once they're the one working opposite of Ronda and they start seeing their checks come in. In reality, what has to happen for these women to be credible opponents for Ronda? They need to be built up. They need to be featured prominently. They need to go on hot streaks. This forces WWE to pay closer attention to the women's division. If Ronda ends up being absolutely horrible, or gets bored and gives up months into this project, then a discussion can be had about whether or not this was a good move. For now, though, there are reports that the people who have been around her at the Performance Center have taken a tremendous liking to her, both personally and professionally. By all accounts, she seems to be taking this very seriously, is showing a great deal of respect for the business and the performers in it, and is displaying a great attitude about everything. Let's not forget, she's not just some celebrity off the streets playing fantasy camp. She paid her dues the same way the members of the roster did, she just happened to do it in another sport. Ronda is already the female equivalent of someone like Roman Reigns. She's bigger than Roman Reigns. The only two people on the entire roster that one could argue have more mainstream appeal and/or recognition are John Cena and Brock Lesnar. I don't care if Stephanie McMahon is responsible for this, or she's just trying to take credit for it. If it works, it works. Really an insult to the women to say that. They could garner attention themselves. How? |
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Post by Eugene69 on Feb 2, 2018 15:30:50 GMT -5
I'm sure charlotte, sasha, asuka, nia, alexa or anyone else that works with her will be glad she's in wwe when they see the extra money they get in those paycheck gimmicks. Cm punk having his first ever real fight in the ufc is an insult, a real proven athlete doing scripted athletic entertainment makes everyone in wwe look better.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 2, 2018 15:58:04 GMT -5
I'm sure charlotte, sasha, asuka, nia, alexa or anyone else that works with her will be glad she's in wwe when they see the extra money they get in those paycheck gimmicks. Cm punk having his first ever real fight in the ufc is an insult, a real proven athlete doing scripted athletic entertainment makes everyone in wwe look better. Exactly....CM Punk getting a fight at a UFC PPV off his name alone and taking a spot away from a REAL fighter is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more insulting than Ronda Rousey coming to WWE, which is "fake". CM Punk should have had to work his way up and been on like the prelims on FS1 if he was anybody else. But just like WWE is trying to do with Ronda, Dana White saw CM Punk's name and saw dollar signs and cashed in. He was right to do it. |
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Post by BSR on Feb 2, 2018 16:00:25 GMT -5
There are conflicting reports as to whether the members of the women's roster voicing their displeasure about Ronda's arrival is a shoot, a work, or a combination of the two (as in, they're playing up their real feelings.) They're entitled to be upset, but I think their anger is misguided, quite frankly. Anyone who can't rationalize why this move was made evidently doesn't understand the wrestling business. This kind of stuff has happened for decades, is happening now, and will continue to happen in the future. The aim of professional wrestling, and, especially WWE, is to make money. Ronda Rousey makes money. There is undoubtedly going to be a little bit of overshadowing going on. That is to be expected, and cannot be avoided when you plop one of the biggest female athletes of all time in the middle of a bunch of women who only just recently started to become serious members of the WWE roster. This elevates the women's division to a place it has never been, and quite honestly, probably never would have gotten to without her. I suspect that, if the women in the locker room truly feel upset about this move, that they may change their tune once they're the one working opposite of Ronda and they start seeing their checks come in. In reality, what has to happen for these women to be credible opponents for Ronda? They need to be built up. They need to be featured prominently. They need to go on hot streaks. This forces WWE to pay closer attention to the women's division. If Ronda ends up being absolutely horrible, or gets bored and gives up months into this project, then a discussion can be had about whether or not this was a good move. For now, though, there are reports that the people who have been around her at the Performance Center have taken a tremendous liking to her, both personally and professionally. By all accounts, she seems to be taking this very seriously, is showing a great deal of respect for the business and the performers in it, and is displaying a great attitude about everything. Let's not forget, she's not just some celebrity off the streets playing fantasy camp. She paid her dues the same way the members of the roster did, she just happened to do it in another sport. Ronda is already the female equivalent of someone like Roman Reigns. She's bigger than Roman Reigns. The only two people on the entire roster that one could argue have more mainstream appeal and/or recognition are John Cena and Brock Lesnar. I don't care if Stephanie McMahon is responsible for this, or she's just trying to take credit for it. If it works, it works. Really an insult to the women to say that. They could garner attention themselves. Except it's been proven they can't. |
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Post by Thought Collector on Feb 2, 2018 16:39:14 GMT -5
Yeah, first steps were the Women's Money In The Bank and Women's Hell In A Cell and now the first Women's Royal Rumble and Women's Elimination Chamber....looking like the next logical step is the first Women's WrestleMania main event to close the show. I can def. see them doing it with someone vs. Ronda. Especially if they can try to build it up for a year.
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Post by blissfan4life on Feb 2, 2018 16:41:45 GMT -5
Really an insult to the women to say that. They could garner attention themselves. Except it's been proven they can't. Shitty booking doesn't help. They drew during the attitude era |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 2, 2018 16:43:03 GMT -5
Really an insult to the women to say that. They could garner attention themselves. Except it's been proven they can't. That's not true.... for Paige garnered some attention to herself in the last year for various reasons.  |
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Post by BSR on Feb 2, 2018 16:59:27 GMT -5
Except it's been proven they can't. crapty booking doesn't help. They drew during the attitude era Sable drew during the attitude era. Not the women. |
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Post by BSR on Feb 2, 2018 16:59:39 GMT -5
Except it's been proven they can't. That's not true.... for Paige garnered some attention to herself in the last year for various reasons. Exactly. |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Feb 2, 2018 17:02:51 GMT -5
crapty booking doesn't help. They drew during the attitude era Sable drew during the attitude era. Not the women. And even that was for being a sex symbol and nothing else lol |
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Post by J12 on Feb 2, 2018 17:02:51 GMT -5
Except it's been proven they can't. crapty booking doesn't help. They drew during the attitude era Sable wasn't drawing because of her wrestling. She was also active during a time that nearly everyone was able to draw money. Trish and Lita weren't moving the needle. They latter two were extremely talented, especially during their time, but they weren't household names, and they didn't draw attention from anyone outside of pro wrestling. |
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Post by marino13 on Feb 2, 2018 17:18:29 GMT -5
Whether anyone here agree with it or not, Rhonda is a huge mega star. She is. Even with her two loses, she still have huge name value. By bringing her in, you're bringing eyes to the company. And just as importantly, the talent. Someone may tune in to see what Rhonda Rousey has to offer WWE and they may leave a huge fan of Asuka. They might say Rhonda was cool, but I'm a fan of that Balor guy.
Anyone here would have done the same exact thing if they were running a wrestling promotion.
As for Stephanie and her part in it... Who knows if she really was behind the Women's revolution or not? Maybe one night her and Hunter were talking about the impact Rousey was making in UFC? And maybe Stephanie asked Hunter to try to let the NXT women shine more? Knowing that the only way to change Vince's mind was to show him results. I mean it is completely possible that this was all her idea. So I wouldn't dismiss it entirely.
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Post by The Everlasting Spirit © on Feb 2, 2018 17:42:02 GMT -5
All very good points people are making. As I say I have no interest in UFC and I guess that attributes some bias to my thoughts but i get the business perspective.
I think my two issues were
A) the reference to her being equivalent of Roman Reigns. Got to be a bad move
B) I didn't implicitly state but the way she reigned in the parade of Asukas Runvle win. Almost to say im more important.
Either way I get bringing her in. Wwe just need to be careful they don't make another reigns or a Batista in the last run. I always think the fans make/choose the star and WWE forget that.
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Post by BSR on Feb 2, 2018 17:49:54 GMT -5
Sable drew during the attitude era. Not the women. And even that was for being a sex symbol and nothing else lol Bingo. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 2, 2018 18:10:54 GMT -5
Ronda has and will draw more money then Sasha Banks forehead will in her entire career. Its one thing if Ronda was only popping up 4 times a year (Brock) but her signing a full time contract & being a regular face on the shows should make this a completely different circumstance.
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