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Post by drifter on Apr 8, 2019 13:09:34 GMT -5
Bit interesting:
The main card of Wrestlemania 35 featured 12 matches and had an airtime of 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds. Here is a breakdown of the match lengths courtesy of CagesideSeats.com:
24m 46s: Triple H vs. Batista 23m 45s: Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston 21m 27s: Rousey vs. Flair vs. Lynch 16m 12s: AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton 15m 28s: The Miz vs. Shane McMahon 10m 47s: Women’s tag championship Fatal 4-way 10m 10s: Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre 10m 04s: SmackDown tag championship Fatal 4-way 5m 59s: Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin 4m 02s: Finn Balor vs. Bobby Lashley 2m 31s: Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins 1m 00s: Samoa Joe vs. Rey Mysterio
The times add up to 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 11 seconds or about 45.1% of the overall airtime.
CSS also noted that Triple H has been in the longest match at Wrestlemania every year since 2013 except for 2016.
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Post by Tim of thee on Apr 8, 2019 13:11:52 GMT -5
As soon as the refs hand hit the mat for 3 I said on here I thought it was a botch. The ending of that match was clear as day: get Becky the win and her moment, yet give the screwy finish so Ronda or Charlotte can come back and claim the shoulders were never down completely, rendering the result questionable. Bingo. And continue the story of Becky feeling like she’s getting it all taken away.
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Post by bigshab421 on Apr 8, 2019 13:26:03 GMT -5
Bit interesting: The main card of Wrestlemania 35 featured 12 matches and had an airtime of 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds. Here is a breakdown of the match lengths courtesy of CagesideSeats.com: 24m 46s: Triple H vs. Batista 23m 45s: Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston 21m 27s: Rousey vs. Flair vs. Lynch 16m 12s: AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton 15m 28s: The Miz vs. Shane McMahon 10m 47s: Women’s tag championship Fatal 4-way 10m 10s: Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre 10m 04s: SmackDown tag championship Fatal 4-way 5m 59s: Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin 4m 02s: Finn Balor vs. Bobby Lashley 2m 31s: Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins 1m 00s: Samoa Joe vs. Rey Mysterio The times add up to 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 11 seconds or about 45.1% of the overall airtime. CSS also noted that Triple H has been in the longest match at Wrestlemania every year since 2013 except for 2016. So in reality, if WWE were smart and could produce a show with a palatable timeframe, this show could have been 3 and 1/2 opposed to 5 and 1/2. Also, there was no need for Joe/Mysterio or Lashley/Balor or SDL tag titles to be on that show at all. Cut the fat, give us the good steak.
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Post by drifter on Apr 8, 2019 13:36:13 GMT -5
Bit interesting: The main card of Wrestlemania 35 featured 12 matches and had an airtime of 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds. Here is a breakdown of the match lengths courtesy of CagesideSeats.com: 24m 46s: Triple H vs. Batista 23m 45s: Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston 21m 27s: Rousey vs. Flair vs. Lynch 16m 12s: AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton 15m 28s: The Miz vs. Shane McMahon 10m 47s: Women’s tag championship Fatal 4-way 10m 10s: Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre 10m 04s: SmackDown tag championship Fatal 4-way 5m 59s: Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin 4m 02s: Finn Balor vs. Bobby Lashley 2m 31s: Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins 1m 00s: Samoa Joe vs. Rey Mysterio The times add up to 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 11 seconds or about 45.1% of the overall airtime. CSS also noted that Triple H has been in the longest match at Wrestlemania every year since 2013 except for 2016. So in reality, if WWE were smart and could produce a show with a palatable timeframe, this show could have been 3 and 1/2 opposed to 5 and 1/2. Also, there was no need for Joe/Mysterio or Lashley/Balor or SDL tag titles to be on that show at all. Cut the fat, give us the good steak. That's the sad thing. When you do the count up, including pre show, you have 16 matches total. Way too much. I know they're in this mind set of wanting to get everyone on the card, but that's hurting the show. Yeah it sucks, but you sometimes have to leave some of the talent off. It's WrestleMania, it's supposed to be your top show of the year, not everyone gets a turn at the plate. Hell, they could have had a match or two on Smackdown and Raw this week, with how much they hype up the days after Mania now.
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Post by The Future on Apr 8, 2019 13:51:14 GMT -5
God help the people that sat in that arena for 8 and a half hours with enough leg room to barely place your entire foot onto the ground in front of you. I think if WWE want to save Romans career, they need to turn him heel and give the fans the ok to boo him again. Everybody clearly wants to boo him, even wrestling fans don’t have the heart to do it, so instead his matches sound pretty flat with the occasional pity clap. Won’t cheer him, can’t boo him. The very thing they don’t want to happen, has happened, there is no reaction for his matches at all. He was more valuable to WWE getting heat like he did, atleast it was an enormous reaction Also, how is everybody getting those WFIGS 10 years Badges under their names? I want one Idk bro, I got zero badges & I've been here like my entire life.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Apr 8, 2019 13:55:14 GMT -5
Bit interesting: The main card of Wrestlemania 35 featured 12 matches and had an airtime of 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds. Here is a breakdown of the match lengths courtesy of CagesideSeats.com: 24m 46s: Triple H vs. Batista 23m 45s: Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston 21m 27s: Rousey vs. Flair vs. Lynch 16m 12s: AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton 15m 28s: The Miz vs. Shane McMahon 10m 47s: Women’s tag championship Fatal 4-way 10m 10s: Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre 10m 04s: SmackDown tag championship Fatal 4-way 5m 59s: Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin 4m 02s: Finn Balor vs. Bobby Lashley 2m 31s: Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins 1m 00s: Samoa Joe vs. Rey Mysterio The times add up to 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 11 seconds or about 45.1% of the overall airtime. CSS also noted that Triple H has been in the longest match at Wrestlemania every year since 2013 except for 2016. So in reality, if WWE were smart and could produce a show with a palatable timeframe, this show could have been 3 and 1/2 opposed to 5 and 1/2. Also, there was no need for Joe/Mysterio or Lashley/Balor or SDL tag titles to be on that show at all. Cut the fat, give us the good steak. I see you referencing Joe when you say "cut the fat" lol
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Post by Chip on Apr 8, 2019 13:59:33 GMT -5
i dont understand how anyone could legitimately say that the show wasnt "too long"...it was literally the length of almost TWO normal PPV shows.
that, in itself, is the definition of "too long" you dont need that much time to have wrestling matches. Wrestlemania has turned from a big show to "lets get everyone on the roster on the card" its just too much at once....which leads to formula TV matches and squashes.
as an example....someone please tell me how or why Roman vs Drew needed to happen and/or go down the way it did. there was no drama, no suspense, barely any build and Roman just won with 1 spear. so everything is just back to status quo with him?
another example being AJ/Orton wrestling like they were trying to remember the exact sequence to get to their next signature move. Zero creativity, zero drama, and now what? it literally did nothing for either guy.
The only match of the entire night that was worthwhile, made sense (in terms of in-ring action), had good pacing, good overall presence and a great conclusion was the WWE title match. Maybe in a weird backwards ass way that's good because it's the only thing people should remember from this 7 1/2 hour show....but thats not what Wrestlemania should be about.
There is so much talent in this company. Wrestlemania should be about showcasing the best talent and the best stories around them, with guys actually bringing out something NEW. Almost everything felt cookie-cutter last night. I didn't feel like I saw anything I hadn't seen before. I just wish they CARED more about the overall product instead of just one 8 hour night where they can promote it as being the greatest event in sports history (until next year).
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Apr 8, 2019 14:19:21 GMT -5
I doubt it but I hope that the WWE comes around and realizes that Wrestlemania has gotten way to bloated in terms of the length and amount of matches,actual same goes for all of their PPV's now.
To me ideally Wrestlemania would have 8 to 10 matches and would be 4 to 4 1/2 hours long with a one hour pre show where you would have just one single kick off match up.Then on the RAW & Smackdown go home shows to Wrestlemania each show would be headline by a match that would have been on a Wrestlemania card if the show was longer i.e. as many people pointed out a match from last night like Lashley/Balor,Joe/Mysterio or the Smackdown tag team titles.You move a match like that to the go home show and give them a good amount of time to pull off and awesome TV match up.
I know this is way to early to predict matches for next years Wrestlemania but I would like depending on how long Ronda Rousey is off after last night to build to a rematch with Becky Lynch at WM 36 with one of the Women's Titles being on on the line but this time in a "Submission Match" I think if booked proper that that match would be more hyped and more over then this Winner Take All match we just watched.
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Post by k5 on Apr 8, 2019 14:36:02 GMT -5
God help the people that sat in that arena for 8 and a half hours with enough leg room to barely place your entire foot onto the ground in front of you. I think if WWE want to save Romans career, they need to turn him heel and give the fans the ok to boo him again. Everybody clearly wants to boo him, even wrestling fans don’t have the heart to do it, so instead his matches sound pretty flat with the occasional pity clap. Won’t cheer him, can’t boo him. The very thing they don’t want to happen, has happened, there is no reaction for his matches at all. He was more valuable to WWE getting heat like he did, atleast it was an enormous reaction Also, how is everybody getting those WFIGS 10 years Badges under their names? I want one Idk bro, I got zero badges & I've been here like my entire life. just msg Jack. I don’t think Negan hands those out. 20 year ones will be rolling out soon enough!
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Post by Team Madness on Apr 8, 2019 14:59:40 GMT -5
i dont understand how anyone could legitimately say that the show wasnt "too long"...it was literally the length of almost TWO normal PPV shows. that, in itself, is the definition of "too long" you dont need that much time to have wrestling matches. Wrestlemania has turned from a big show to "lets get everyone on the roster on the card" its just too much at once....which leads to formula TV matches and squashes. as an example....someone please tell me how or why Roman vs Drew needed to happen and/or go down the way it did. there was no drama, no suspense, barely any build and Roman just won with 1 spear. so everything is just back to status quo with him? another example being AJ/Orton wrestling like they were trying to remember the exact sequence to get to their next signature move. Zero creativity, zero drama, and now what? it literally did nothing for either guy. The only match of the entire night that was worthwhile, made sense (in terms of in-ring action), had good pacing, good overall presence and a great conclusion was the WWE title match. Maybe in a weird backwards ass way that's good because it's the only thing people should remember from this 7 1/2 hour show....but thats not what Wrestlemania should be about. There is so much talent in this company. Wrestlemania should be about showcasing the best talent and the best stories around them, with guys actually bringing out something NEW. Almost everything felt cookie-cutter last night. I didn't feel like I saw anything I hadn't seen before. I just wish they CARED more about the overall product instead of just one 8 hour night where they can promote it as being the greatest event in sports history (until next year). I’ve been struggling to come up with thoughts on last nights show, but I agree with every single word you said and couldn’t have said it better. So much for the term ‘showcase of the immortals’......I did think the guest commentators were a nice touch.
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Post by tarver89 on Apr 8, 2019 15:08:18 GMT -5
Just finished to rewatch Bryan-Kofi and i'm in tears. This is what professional wrestling is all about. The story, the emotions, everything. That is something for the ages.
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Post by TheLastDude on Apr 8, 2019 15:18:03 GMT -5
You both need glasses if you think that this
Looks like a man in drag.
I have glasses and I don't need them to see that that pic is airbrushed to holy hell and back, Jack.
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Post by brianregan09 on Apr 8, 2019 15:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by Markw on Apr 8, 2019 15:31:24 GMT -5
The ending of that match was clear as day: get Becky the win and her moment, yet give the screwy finish so Ronda or Charlotte can come back and claim the shoulders were never down completely, rendering the result questionable. Bingo. And continue the story of Becky feeling like she’s getting it all taken away. It's a bit s*** though isn't it? It's the main event of Wrestlemania - it needed Ronda tapping out to the 'fake' armbar, and then they can take it away from Becky the next night if they want to and get her chasing it again. But just give us the end to this one show a year that people actually want to see as opposed to bulls*** to prolong a story that was more than ready for its ending. Reeked of Starrcade '97 to me.
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Post by TheLastDude on Apr 8, 2019 15:31:57 GMT -5
Bit interesting: The main card of Wrestlemania 35 featured 12 matches and had an airtime of 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds. Here is a breakdown of the match lengths courtesy of CagesideSeats.com: 24m 46s: Triple H vs. Batista 23m 45s: Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston 21m 27s: Rousey vs. Flair vs. Lynch 16m 12s: AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton 15m 28s: The Miz vs. Shane McMahon 10m 47s: Women’s tag championship Fatal 4-way 10m 10s: Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre 10m 04s: SmackDown tag championship Fatal 4-way 5m 59s: Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin 4m 02s: Finn Balor vs. Bobby Lashley 2m 31s: Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins 1m 00s: Samoa Joe vs. Rey Mysterio The times add up to 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 11 seconds or about 45.1% of the overall airtime. CSS also noted that Triple H has been in the longest match at Wrestlemania every year since 2013 except for 2016. That actually is very interesting. The fact that the combined time of the actual matches was less than half the entire airtime needs to be improved upon. Haitch needs to stop trying to be the show, and let it go. That match should have been no longer than 10-15 minutes. Roman and Drew was a throwaway match that should have been held off on. Once they found out Rey was hurt, that match should have been scrapped too. Raw Tag title match felt like it was added "just because". The two battle royals... I understand doing an hour long pre-show lead-in. You want to warm the crowd up and get people ready. You show all the video packages while people are filing in and sitting down. Ok. Done good. Now, you did all that during the pre-show. No need to do it again during the show.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 15:50:59 GMT -5
I have glasses and I don't need them to see that that pic is airbrushed to holy hell and back, Jack. Holy I just threw up.
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Apr 8, 2019 16:38:25 GMT -5
Interesting fact but John Cena hasn't had a proper match since WM 31 against Rusev.He didn't wrestle at 32 and just did the run in,33 he had the short mix tag team match against Miz,last year he got squashed in a nothing match against Taker and last night just had the promo with Elias.I really hope he get a proper one on one match up next year.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 8, 2019 16:40:48 GMT -5
I actually loved this WM... not as much as WM30, but much better than WM34 last year and much much much better than WM33 the year before that. I'd say it EASILY beat WM32 which isn't saying much, it's also a tie between WM31 and WM35 last night for me.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 8, 2019 16:50:49 GMT -5
Looking back at it, the ending of the main event doesn't piss me off anymore but at the time I was thinking wtf. I still enjoyed Becky/Ronda/Charlotte and at least Becky won and got her big moment.
The highlight for me was easily Bryan vs Kofi... MOTN and one of the best matches in Mania history. Kofi got his moment finally, the fans loved the ending when Kofi won and in fact the fans were into the whole match. Great performance from Bryan and Kofi plus lots of emotion, drama, story telling... man just wow.
I also just got done finishing the entire show as it was just too long, so I had to watch the thing at different times, plus I been too busy lately anyways. Overall a really good show despite a few crap moments. Easily one of my fav WMs ever and one of the best in the last 5-10 years imo.
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Post by Tim of thee on Apr 8, 2019 17:35:31 GMT -5
Bingo. And continue the story of Becky feeling like she’s getting it all taken away. It's a bit s*** though isn't it? It's the main event of Wrestlemania - it needed Ronda tapping out to the 'fake' armbar, and then they can take it away from Becky the next night if they want to and get her chasing it again. But just give us the end to this one show a year that people actually want to see as opposed to bulls*** to prolong a story that was more than ready for its ending. Reeked of Starrcade '97 to me. I’m not saying it’s perfect but I do see the logic in it. Starrcade 97 is a bit of a stretch. Ronda tapping does nothing for the story. That makes no sense to me.
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