iamcline
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Post by iamcline on Jul 21, 2023 14:45:12 GMT -5
I need this Vader, Undertaker, Paul Bearer set...now...plz
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Post by stormbreaker on Jul 21, 2023 14:58:15 GMT -5
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RedDevil
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Post by RedDevil on Jul 21, 2023 15:04:01 GMT -5
I've collected every Retro from Mattel to-date, but I'm passing on that next Hogan set. It's the wrong direction for me. I had the mindset that so few come out a year that I'd just keep doing them all but I'm calling it quits on the LJN era guys. King, Vader, Paul Bearer, that's perfect stuff for me. 94-96 is really the sweet spot to me with these but I don't mind going up to the end of the MNWs since those were introduced so early in the run. I think it's great we're getting New Age Outlaws. One of my favorite tag teams of all time, and I've wanted them since we got the SummerSlam 98 Trips. I actually think it's kind of weird we didn't get X-pac in the set instead of Triple H. I know we just got Syxx, but we have a DX Triple H Retro. So it seems like it would have made more sense to do Chyna/Outlaws/X-pac from 98 to go with that one we already own. Maybe they have a plan to get us DX X-pac in a future set. I wouldn't be mad at getting a Mania 14ish era set with something like HBK, street clothes X-pac, jean shorts Austin, and Taker. But regardless, happy to add more of DX. I did wonder before the announcement if they'd resist having X-Pac in the set because the Outlaws clearly have to be together meaning that the remaining two figures would have to go together and they might not want to put Chyna and X-Pac together given their history - that might maybe even be something Chyna's family might object to? The likelier answer is probably that they just didn't want to do Waltman again two sets running, but given Mattel's history of sensitivity then their history might be a factor. |
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 21, 2023 16:33:39 GMT -5
Next set
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Post by robbutler01 on Jul 22, 2023 6:55:52 GMT -5
So do we think there will be any more retros reveals or is that it now? Was hoping for maybe 1 or 2 from the set after the studd, Ali? Even if its just pictures.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jul 22, 2023 7:24:42 GMT -5
So do we think there will be any more retros reveals or is that it now? Was hoping for maybe 1 or 2 from the set after the studd, Ali? Even if its just pictures. If I recall correctly, Lawler was revealed on the final day - so they just might give us a tease for the next set. Hopefully they will! |
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jul 22, 2023 7:34:25 GMT -5
So do we think there will be any more retros reveals or is that it now? Was hoping for maybe 1 or 2 from the set after the studd, Ali? Even if its just pictures. If I recall correctly, Lawler was revealed on the final day - so they just might give us a tease for the next set. Hopefully they will! Hope so too, so far I haven't been too excited over anything they showed. |
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Post by RedDevil on Jul 22, 2023 8:50:20 GMT -5
Yeah I'm hoping for one more to appear in the display case before the end of the weekend - not expecting anything more though, especially nothing new in terms of renders or new line announcements.
But of course doing that last year is no guarantee that they'll do it again, but it feels like they need to show someone to tease us for the 2nd-half 2024 bundle; it's such a long time until the WrestleMania reveals.
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 22, 2023 12:49:47 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, Lawler was revealed on the final day - so they just might give us a tease for the next set. Hopefully they will! Hope so too, so far I haven't been too excited over anything they showed. Studd and Billy Gunn look good, but other than that, I agree with you. The Hogan face sculpt, and paint job looks odd. Until they showed the John Studd figure, I was actually going to skip the WM1 set - still thinking about doing that and just buying the Studd figure by itself later on. I'm also not really liking the DX set, the attires are cool, and nothing against any of the figures, but that's just outside the Hasbro line for me - though they do go well with the Retro's S2 set. |
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jul 22, 2023 13:26:34 GMT -5
Hope so too, so far I haven't been too excited over anything they showed. . The Hogan face sculpt, and paint job looks odd. Until they showed the John Studd figure, I was actually going to skip the WM1 set - still thinking about doing that and just buying the Studd figure by itself later on. I'm also not really liking the DX set, the attires are cool, and nothing against any of the figures, but that's just outside the Hasbro line for me - though they do go well with the Retro's S2 set. This. I understand that ringside wanted a 4 pack and that dx makes sense because of that, but I sure as hell don’t need another son-in-law retro. They better show something else. Like a teaser for the next set. And with what’s happening with Macho Man - these people had how many years to put out a long tights version? Stop dragging your feet on figures that collectors have been screaming about for years. It took 10 series to get to Diesel. Imagine if they lost his rights along the way. Next time instead of giving us the heel Jake we’ve wanted since grade school they’ll throw in another son-in-law. |
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 22, 2023 13:39:22 GMT -5
Studd and Billy Gunn look good, but other than that, I agree with you. The Hogan face sculpt, and paint job looks odd. Until they showed the John Studd figure, I was actually going to skip the WM1 set - still thinking about doing that and just buying the Studd figure by itself later on. I'm also not really liking the DX set, the attires are cool, and nothing against any of the figures, but that's just outside the Hasbro line for me - though they do go well with the Retro's S2 set. This. I understand that ringside wanted a 4 pack and that dx makes sense because of that, but I sure as hell don’t need another son-in-law retro. They better show something else. Like a teaser for the next set. And with what’s happening with Macho Man - these people had how many years to put out a long tights version? Stop dragging your feet on figures that collectors have been screaming about for years. It took 10 series to get to Diesel. Imagine if they lost his rights along the way.
Next time instead of giving us the heel Jake we’ve wanted since grade school they’ll throw in another son-in-law. That's the biggest issue. You never know when a deal will expire, why wait on the most wanted looks. People will still purchase the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th Macho, Jake, Hogan, Bret, Warrior, etc. but they should get out the most desired looks first. Macho in green was a good choice, but NWO Macho was not. Iron Sheik is cool, but how did we get an Iron Sheik before a Col. Mustafa in this line. In the elite line, that makes complete sense, Sheik before Mustafa, but not in a Hasbro-inspired line. Hell, they almost waited too long and lost Diesel, who I think was one of the most wanted figures in this line once it was announced. He was in the 10th series which almost didn't make it into stores, and the production run was shorter - if I remember correctly. Look at the UE Macho Man, they waited too long and now he's gone - for now, I hope. Why Bill had to put him in with Orton instead of getting him in the set right after, I'll never know. Probably couldn't have put him in the same set as Warrior because of all the deco, but he should have been in the next set. |
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Post by glassoni0n on Jul 22, 2023 14:23:06 GMT -5
This. I understand that ringside wanted a 4 pack and that dx makes sense because of that, but I sure as hell don’t need another son-in-law retro. They better show something else. Like a teaser for the next set. And with what’s happening with Macho Man - these people had how many years to put out a long tights version? Stop dragging your feet on figures that collectors have been screaming about for years. It took 10 series to get to Diesel. Imagine if they lost his rights along the way.
Next time instead of giving us the heel Jake we’ve wanted since grade school they’ll throw in another son-in-law. That's the biggest issue. You never know when a deal will expire, why wait on the most wanted looks. People will still purchase the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th Macho, Jake, Hogan, Bret, Warrior, etc. but they should get out the most desired looks first. Macho in green was a good choice, but NWO Macho was not. Iron Sheik is cool, but how did we get an Iron Sheik before a Col. Mustafa in this line. In the elite line, that makes complete sense, Sheik before Mustafa, but not in a Hasbro-inspired line. Hell, they almost waited too long and lost Diesel, who I think was one of the most wanted figures in this line once it was announced. He was in the 10th series which almost didn't make it into stores, and the production run was shorter - if I remember correctly. Look at the UE Macho Man, they waited too long and now he's gone - for now, I hope. Why Bill had to put him in with Orton instead of getting him in the set right after, I'll never know. Probably couldn't have put him in the same set as Warrior because of all the deco, but he should have been in the next set. Looking back on it the Warrior-Savage thing was a bit of a poor plan by Mattel. I think collectors definitely would have showed up for some kind of two-pack situation with these two figures. My guess is they probably wanted to stay away from a set with two re-releases, but as long as they made each available separately like the Usos and the 3-faces of Foley I don't think anyone would have complained. That's assuming Mattel knows how long they have to get figures out in instances like this. I wouldn't be that surprised if at times they find these situations as surprising as we do. |
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jul 22, 2023 14:42:01 GMT -5
This. I understand that ringside wanted a 4 pack and that dx makes sense because of that, but I sure as hell don’t need another son-in-law retro. They better show something else. Like a teaser for the next set. And with what’s happening with Macho Man - these people had how many years to put out a long tights version? Stop dragging your feet on figures that collectors have been screaming about for years. It took 10 series to get to Diesel. Imagine if they lost his rights along the way.
Next time instead of giving us the heel Jake we’ve wanted since grade school they’ll throw in another son-in-law. That's the biggest issue. You never know when a deal will expire, why wait on the most wanted looks. People will still purchase the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th Macho, Jake, Hogan, Bret, Warrior, etc. but they should get out the most desired looks first. Macho in green was a good choice, but NWO Macho was not. Iron Sheik is cool, but how did we get an Iron Sheik before a Col. Mustafa in this line. In the elite line, that makes complete sense, Sheik before Mustafa, but not in a Hasbro-inspired line. Hell, they almost waited too long and lost Diesel, who I think was one of the most wanted figures in this line once it was announced. He was in the 10th series which almost didn't make it into stores, and the production run was shorter - if I remember correctly. Look at the UE Macho Man, they waited too long and now he's gone - for now, I hope. Why Bill had to put him in with Orton instead of getting him in the set right after, I'll never know. Probably couldn't have put him in the same set as Warrior because of all the deco, but he should have been in the next set. This says it all right here. Hasbro. It’s like they still don’t understand this. I love the Sheik like anyone, but he was Mustafa DURING THE HASBRO ERA. They had the boot mold from the Xavier Woods figure that no one asked for (I’ll give them credit- the New Day figs are very colorful and may be the best current day figs they made) and didn’t put out an Iraqi Sgt. Slaughter. Until the fully realize that people really only want hasbro era guys that didn’t get figs, I’ll be worried this line will die once and for all. |
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Post by brad on Jul 22, 2023 15:04:32 GMT -5
If we are airing our grievances, it is infuriating that we finally got the Hart Foundation in retro form and it was from 1987, not freaking 1990/91!!! The Harts were my biggest want outside of Heenan and Sherri from this line and it just boggles my mind we are getting Richter/Ali/Bob Orton… in the grand scheme, few people care about the first Mania and yet we are getting a second wave dedicated solely to it. Not getting a long tights Macho King by now is also just beyond me. Never would have bet Zombie Sailor would be the first to do it. Bah.
On the bright side, love that DX set. No complaints there, or with the Studd reveal. Seems like most guessed the next ringside set, so what comes after DX??
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 22, 2023 15:23:48 GMT -5
If we are airing our grievances, it is infuriating that we finally got the Hart Foundation in retro form and it was from 1987, not freaking 1990/91!!! The Harts were my biggest want outside of Heenan and Sherri from this line and it just boggles my mind we are getting Richter/Ali/Bob Orton… in the grand scheme, few people care about the first Mania and yet we are getting a second wave dedicated solely to it. Not getting a long tights Macho King by now is also just beyond me. Never would have bet Zombie Sailor would be the first to do it. Bah. On the bright side, love that DX set. No complaints there, or with the Studd reveal. Seems like most guessed the next ringside set, so what comes after DX?? Actually, it was a mash-up of 1987 and 1990/91. The tights are 1990/91, but the glasses on Hitman are mid 80s. Come to think of it, they put regular glasses in with the elite 43 Hitman, too, even though he was wearing the "Hitman shades" by that time. I'm starting to think that someone at Mattel really hates the Hitman - they never seem to get his attire/look right. Either the head is atrocious, or they package the wrong glasses/shades in with the figure, or they make the logo on the tank top wrong for the attire... Is HHH & HBK designing these figures for Bret? |
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Post by mrh on Jul 22, 2023 15:39:15 GMT -5
If we are airing our grievances, it is infuriating that we finally got the Hart Foundation in retro form and it was from 1987, not freaking 1990/91!!! The Harts were my biggest want outside of Heenan and Sherri from this line and it just boggles my mind we are getting Richter/Ali/Bob Orton… in the grand scheme, few people care about the first Mania and yet we are getting a second wave dedicated solely to it. Not getting a long tights Macho King by now is also just beyond me. Never would have bet Zombie Sailor would be the first to do it. Bah. On the bright side, love that DX set. No complaints there, or with the Studd reveal. Seems like most guessed the next ringside set, so what comes after DX??
SO many people seem to agree with this. But whenever I post something similar, I'm trolled as saying I don't know what collectors want. To each their own. TO me, it's clear most people would prefer figures with looks before 1990
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Post by RedDevil on Jul 22, 2023 15:45:55 GMT -5
On the bright side, love that DX set. No complaints there, or with the Studd reveal. Seems like most guessed the next ringside set, so what comes after DX?? That’s an interesting one to predict - will they continue with factions, or was the natural flow from nWo to DX the end of that and now they’ll move onto separate tag teams? Either way then the options are kind of limited. Continuing with Factions: -The Nation: Rock, Faarooq, Kama, D’Lo? Maybe, obviously missing Mark Henry, and they don’t have Crush or Savio to do an earlier line-up. Big enough to follow the nWo and DX? -Hart Foundation: Bret, Bulldog, Anvil, and? No Owen and no Pillman, so Nattie? -Heenan Family: Bobby, Orndorff, Red Rooster, Rick Rude? Could be a really good set one, though they’d probably want to put in Mr Perfect in place of Rooster, but his Hasbros are… well, obviously… I’m going to say it… absolutely perfect. Maybe Andre, but again we don’t really need another, especially with ZST and Epic making him in this scale. -The Corporation/Corporate Ministry: Lots of options here, and would fit in with nWo/DX timeline. Some obvious tag teams are missing members like Dynamite Kid and Marty Jannetty, and now can’t do the Mega Powers or the Ultimate Maniacs. Mega Maniacs? HBK and Diesel? Do we need new Headshrinkers or Steiners? Could go for Harlem Heat if they mix in WCW. The Headbangers have Legends agreements now I think, so perhaps. Ideally we’d need the Beverly Brothers though. |
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Post by RedDevil on Jul 22, 2023 15:53:55 GMT -5
Or they could pivot towards doing a rivals sets instead: e.g. Bret vs. HBK; Hogan vs. Andre? Those seem the obvious ones from around the era we’re looking for, with Rock vs. Austin and Taker vs. Mankind a little bit later?
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 22, 2023 15:58:15 GMT -5
They really should redo Diesel.
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jul 22, 2023 16:02:14 GMT -5
They really should redo Diesel. Now here is something we can agree on. I remember this one being harder to get because it was towards the end if the first run for retros. Maybe make him again with more of a silver attire. |
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