Official: Ambrose/Moxley thread

There's a huge difference. Just because you have a typical power structure in a wrestling company doesn't mean it's anything close to the toxic backstage environment that Moxley described in the WWE, and you also don't have a 70-year-old man obsessed with poop jokes having the final say. Yes, there will always be "top guys" in any company, but I'd much rather see a company where at the very least, those top guys are going to be innovative and fresh; something Vince no longer knows anything about.

And this isn't directed at you, but I don't see where people on here are making this "WWE vs. AEW" argument that keeps getting referenced in this thread. What I've mainly seen (again, not directed at you, PJ) are two types of fans: those, like myself, who are dying for AEW to succeed to just give us an alternative, and others who are so pro-WWE that they have been making jokes about AEW since the company was first announced and want it to fail and who are overly sensitive any time someone says anything even slightly negative about the WWE and positive about AEW. That doesn't make this a "WWE vs. AEW" war.

Moxley has a really good two part interview on wade Keller’s podcast currently, but there are a crazy amount of ads. Goes in depth on stuff that wasn’t covered in the Jericho podcast, and follows up on some stuff from that.

I listened to Moxley's Talk is Jericho today, and I found it absolutely fascinating, and very interesting and informative. It made me realise that unless you work in the company, you don't really have a clue what goes on behind the scenes. We know how horrendous practically all of Ambrose's segments were in 2018, but I know that I never knew the stories behind the scenes, as Moxley described. The examples he gave just sound like terrible experiences, and just shows how out of touch Vince really is.

I don't really want to go too far off-topic or come across as being on a high horse, but Moxley's experiences described on the podcast is exactly why I think fans have absolutely no right to bash anybody who supposedly walks out on WWE. We don't know what they're going through, and we don't have a right to know everything either. Just because one specific reason is rumoured, doesn't mean that was necessarily the deciding factor, if there's even any truth to it in the first place. Really, I think everyone is entitled to happiness, and doing what they think is right for them. If a job makes you miserable, as it clearly did Ambrose, then there's no reason to carry on working there. Good for Ambrose for feeling like he had to carry on to the end of his contract, but I don't think there should be any shame in quitting early either, if any particular superstar is THAT unhappy, for whatever reason.

Well said.

Jon Moxley def Juice Robinson to win the NJPW United States Championship with a new Double Underhook Implant DDT finisher and ring attire. No more wifebeater and jeans.

He was my favorite in WWE and that's at least enough for me to give AEW\Japan a chance.

The fact that Ambrose/Moxley has a 13 page thread dedicated to him proves that he gathers big fan interest... yes? No?

In the TIJ podcast, he mentioned that when the Shield first broke up in 2014 that he had no clue how to be a face and with no input from the WWE either, he felt that the coolest “good guy” he could think of was John McClain. With him stating that he originally planned to make his baby face-character 90% John McClain, this is likely where the jeans and wife beater look came from.

I always liked it as it made him stand out from the crowd, but it was likely a double-edged sword as Vince likely felt it played into the “lunatic” character that Moxley hated playing.

Moxley had his best match in many, many years last night in NJPW. Funny how that works when the restrictions are off?

He was really great, and was so over with the crowd. Came out through the crowd with his entrance and it felt/looked like Onita (without the cigarette and getting pelted by garbage). Just awesome.