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Post by Gorilla on Jun 9, 2019 19:19:56 GMT -5
How can you first off complain that the WWE programming is bad, and then proceed to say how you don’t know who certain guys are that have been around for years? That means you haven’t watched in years so how do you know it’s no good? 2016 was a phenomenal year and part of 2017 was as well. Corbin has been a major highlight the last 3 years on both brands so there’s no way you’ve been watching the programming and can then straight up ask who he is, the same with Renee Young. Aside from that I’m not looking to comment on everything stupid in your post except that you said Kofi vs Dolph was for the heavyweight title. It was for the WWE Championship. The word “Heavyweight” is nowhere in that title. It hasn’t been the “Heavyweight” title since it was renamed the Undisputed Title, followed by them making WCW’s title the “Heavyweight Championship”. You sound like an old man who complains to the food store manager when they stops selling a discontinued product as if it’s their fault. Everything stupid? I guess my opinion just goes against what you love? You're right. I dont watch. I randomly watch 1 or 2 ppv events a year. The Saudi events are extraordinary so I try to watch them. Wwe has to please their Saudi customers so I expect to see things that are out of the ordinary. Wwe took the word Heavyweight out of the title. And the belt looks like women's jewelry. But if you look at it's lineage, it is the heavyweight title. Wwe stopped using the term because they dont have many heavyweights these days. I know wwe is no good because facts tell me it is no good. When I read online that viewership is at an all time low, and that networks are not pleased with ratings........ those are facts. You might enjoy the program but you'd be in the minority there. When I see Wrestlemania is main evented by ladies, I know wwe has no bankable Male wrestlers. No stars. They need to change what they are doing. Ladys do not draw. That's why Glow, WOW, and many other all lady promotions crashed and burned. Maybe wwe will be the first ever promotion to succeed with women at the forefront? But I doubt it. Ladys usually do not stick around as pro wrestlers for more than 10 years. I agree with everything you've said except for the stuff about women's wrestling. I think they're amazing, not my cup of tea, but still amazing. I agree on the midget men and the costume jewelry belts. They look tacky AF |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 21:41:02 GMT -5
Blood Money 18- Literal War Games Blood Money 19- No Blood is Bad Blood Blood Money 20- Heads are going to roll Of course you know Baron Corbin will headline 20 😂 |
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Jun 10, 2019 9:26:48 GMT -5
Hasn’t it been said that the undertaker has no desire to have a match with sting? It’s all in his court and sucks we will never get to see them face off or in the ring together. Sting has said it’s the only match he has interest in. Yup it’s been said that Taker was opposed to having the match with Sting. Which makes me wonder why didn’t he take his own advice like he told Jericho when Jericho didn’t want to wrestle Fandango at WrestleMania? He told Jericho “just do your job” and if they went to a movie audition and Steven Spielberg wanted him to “blow off his butt falling down stairs saying waka...waka...waka” you wouldn’t say I don’t want to do that because then he would just get someone else. So why didn’t he follow his own advice? I also remember a Undertaker interview from like the early 2000's (Biker Taker) saying he wasn't going to hang out around like all of these older guys...that he would walk away when it was obvious he couldn't go anymore. He clearly has forgotten about that because he probably should've walked away 3-4 years ago. I was excited to see Taker vs. Goldberg but this was just really sad to see. Yeah, the match was a mess but those guys could have gotten hurt really bad. At this point Undertaker vs. Sting would have to have zero power moves and just be an intense brawl. |
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Post by K5 on Jun 10, 2019 13:02:46 GMT -5
Everything stupid? I guess my opinion just goes against what you love? You're right. I dont watch. I randomly watch 1 or 2 ppv events a year. The Saudi events are extraordinary so I try to watch them. Wwe has to please their Saudi customers so I expect to see things that are out of the ordinary. Wwe took the word Heavyweight out of the title. And the belt looks like women's jewelry. But if you look at it's lineage, it is the heavyweight title. Wwe stopped using the term because they dont have many heavyweights these days. I know wwe is no good because facts tell me it is no good. When I read online that viewership is at an all time low, and that networks are not pleased with ratings........ those are facts. You might enjoy the program but you'd be in the minority there. When I see Wrestlemania is main evented by ladies, I know wwe has no bankable Male wrestlers. No stars. They need to change what they are doing. Ladys do not draw. That's why Glow, WOW, and many other all lady promotions crashed and burned. Maybe wwe will be the first ever promotion to succeed with women at the forefront? But I doubt it. Ladys usually do not stick around as pro wrestlers for more than 10 years. I agree with everything you've said except for the stuff about women's wrestling. I think they're amazing, not my cup of tea, but still amazing. I agree on the midget men and the costume jewelry belts. They look tacky AF okay, you’ve said several times you don’t like the smaller stature of today’s average wwe wrestler. I’m not looking to argue that. steroids aren’t nearly as prevalent as they’ve been in the past. strowman and lashley are two blatant examples of steroid users. are you actually suggesting that you want a return to wrestlers taking so much steroids that it affects their health? or do you want the guys to look like the early 70s and before, legend Larry Zybysko etc? was Shawn Michaels and Bret too scrawny in the early 90s before they beefed up some? Would you be okay with just a ton of One Man Gangs around? I’m just trying to understand exactly what you’d like to see change back. |
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 10, 2019 13:39:19 GMT -5
I agree with everything you've said except for the stuff about women's wrestling. I think they're amazing, not my cup of tea, but still amazing. I agree on the midget men and the costume jewelry belts. They look tacky AF okay, you’ve said several times you don’t like the smaller stature of today’s average wwe wrestler. I’m not looking to argue that. steroids aren’t nearly as prevalent as they’ve been in the past. strowman and lashley are two blatant examples of steroid users. are you actually suggesting that you want a return to wrestlers taking so much steroids that it affects their health? or do you want the guys to look like the early 70s and before, legend Larry Zybysko etc? was Shawn Michaels and Bret too scrawny in the early 90s before they beefed up some? Would you be okay with just a ton of One Man Gangs around? I’m just trying to understand exactly what you’d like to see change back. I want a variety of guys. In the Hogan era you had guy that looked like an average man, (Honky, Roberts, Piper, Taylor, Free Birds, Funk,Slaughter) they were fit but not jacked and not shredded. You had Giants, (Akeem, Bossman, Andre, Bundy, Stud, Samoans). You had guys that looked like they were Gym addicts, (Muraco, Bravo, Steamboat, Macho, Perfect, Roma, Demolition). And then you had guys that looked insanely jacked or shredded, (Rude, Hogan, Warrior, LOD, Warlord, Bulldog) Today every guy looks almost identical to the guy standing next to him. They all have some kind of tattoo, black latex trunks, usually very lean and cut. I think part of the blame goes to MMA. Guys who are legitimate badasses go to compete in mma instead of trying pro wrestling. So pro wrestling is left with guys who are fans of what they think pro wrestling is. If you see a pro wrestler say they idolize HBK, you know that guy doesn't know what good pro wrestling is. The other part of the blame goes to wwe. They've single handedly created the current environment. Wrestlers have few options, as far as making money, so they want to mold themselves in the current style. |
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 10, 2019 13:45:07 GMT -5
I will say this. I was watching this last Saudi show and there was a brief instance in the battle royal where 3 tag teams stopped to battle each other. Two taller guys wearing all black, heavy machinery, and Vikings. All 3 teams looked awesome. They look like they can do serious damage.
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Post by Gorilla on Jun 10, 2019 13:54:41 GMT -5
I agree with everything you've said except for the stuff about women's wrestling. I think they're amazing, not my cup of tea, but still amazing. I agree on the midget men and the costume jewelry belts. They look tacky AF okay, you’ve said several times you don’t like the smaller stature of today’s average wwe wrestler. I’m not looking to argue that. steroids aren’t nearly as prevalent as they’ve been in the past. strowman and lashley are two blatant examples of steroid users. are you actually suggesting that you want a return to wrestlers taking so much steroids that it affects their health? or do you want the guys to look like the early 70s and before, legend Larry Zybysko etc? was Shawn Michaels and Bret too scrawny in the early 90s before they beefed up some? Would you be okay with just a ton of One Man Gangs around? I’m just trying to understand exactly what you’d like to see change back. I think it's the height combined with the style. It's hard to believe Seth Rollins could beat Brock Lesnar. It was not hard to believe Hogan could beat Andre. Bret and Shawn were smaller, but both employed a good level of ring psychology and not an abundance of high spots. Rollins, Styles, Ricochet, Bryan, Kingston etc are all well under 6 feet. I don't even think they should be in the heavyweight division. Randy Savage is my favorite wrestler of all-time, and Bret is my second. I like smaller guys, but you can't have all your top guys being tiny. The top guys should be intimidating to the public. Like no one in the 80s would have wanted to take on Hacksaw, Jake or Hogan in a bar. It's not about steroids, it's about being imposing. Drew McIntyre is fantastic and is a real throw back to the good old days. |
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Post by King Richius on Jun 10, 2019 14:20:43 GMT -5
If you see a pro wrestler say they idolize HBK, you know that guy doesn't know what good pro wrestling is. I try to be tolerant and open minded towards all opinions expressed on the site but this statement is so laughably wrong that I had to pop in to say so. |
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 10, 2019 15:55:36 GMT -5
If you see a pro wrestler say they idolize HBK, you know that guy doesn't know what good pro wrestling is. I try to be tolerant and open minded towards all opinions expressed on the site but this statement is so laughably wrong that I had to pop in to say so. I understand that many people like HBK. I'll never understand why though. As a pro wrestler he had little to nothing going for him. He was never good on promos. He is tiny compared to real heavyweights. His back stage personality is pure garbage. And when he was the top guy the company almost folded because he could not draw to save his life. I know that of you like HBK what I just said won't sit well with you. But it's all facts. Those facts are the reason why HBK was nothing but a jobber in the Hogan era. |
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Post by Chip on Jun 10, 2019 17:01:26 GMT -5
so out of the 3 Saudi shows so far, I thought this one was the best/most enjoyable.
I felt most of the matches were pretty good, the CROWD was awesome. and it felt less like a house show and more like an actual event. the goldberg/undertaker thing was what it was....even though that match had no business happening in 2019, you cant blame them for an accident happening. i also appreciated the fact that they clearly booked it to be an actual match with spots and not a squash....its a shame Goldberg knocked himself silly.
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Post by Gorilla on Jun 10, 2019 17:16:20 GMT -5
If you see a pro wrestler say they idolize HBK, you know that guy doesn't know what good pro wrestling is. I try to be tolerant and open minded towards all opinions expressed on the site but this statement is so laughably wrong that I had to pop in to say so. I agree with you on this. HBK, Bret, Savage, Flair, Steamboat are the top five workers pre-2000. |
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 11, 2019 17:21:22 GMT -5
so out of the 3 Saudi shows so far, I thought this one was the best/most enjoyable. I felt most of the matches were pretty good, the CROWD was awesome. and it felt less like a house show and more like an actual event. the goldberg/undertaker thing was what it was....even though that match had no business happening in 2019, you cant blame them for an accident happening. i also appreciated the fact that they clearly booked it to be an actual match with spots and not a squash....its a shame Goldberg knocked himself silly. You have to hand it to wwe. They gave the Saudis a fresh, high profile, dream match. Goldberg vs Undertaker is a match I'm sure people wanted to see 20 years ago, as a dream match. Similar to when people day dreamed about a Hogan vs Flair match. Those kinds of dream matches are become less and less available these days. |
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Post by BSR on Jun 15, 2019 5:12:42 GMT -5
I agree with everything you've said except for the stuff about women's wrestling. I think they're amazing, not my cup of tea, but still amazing. I agree on the midget men and the costume jewelry belts. They look tacky AF okay, you’ve said several times you don’t like the smaller stature of today’s average wwe wrestler. I’m not looking to argue that. steroids aren’t nearly as prevalent as they’ve been in the past. strowman and lashley are two blatant examples of steroid users. are you actually suggesting that you want a return to wrestlers taking so much steroids that it affects their health? or do you want the guys to look like the early 70s and before, legend Larry Zybysko etc? was Shawn Michaels and Bret too scrawny in the early 90s before they beefed up some? Would you be okay with just a ton of One Man Gangs around? I’m just trying to understand exactly what you’d like to see change back. Lol i need to see a ton of one man gangs |
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Post by K5 on Jun 15, 2019 23:35:10 GMT -5
okay, you’ve said several times you don’t like the smaller stature of today’s average wwe wrestler. I’m not looking to argue that. steroids aren’t nearly as prevalent as they’ve been in the past. strowman and lashley are two blatant examples of steroid users. are you actually suggesting that you want a return to wrestlers taking so much steroids that it affects their health? or do you want the guys to look like the early 70s and before, legend Larry Zybysko etc? was Shawn Michaels and Bret too scrawny in the early 90s before they beefed up some? Would you be okay with just a ton of One Man Gangs around? I’m just trying to understand exactly what you’d like to see change back. Lol i need to see a ton of one man gangs a metric ton? because that's only like 5.5 one man gangs  |
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Post by BSR on Jun 16, 2019 8:51:05 GMT -5
Lol i need to see a ton of one man gangs a metric ton? because that's only like 5.5 one man gangs Lol just five of him going at it would be hilarious. |
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