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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Oct 6, 2019 22:22:04 GMT -5
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Post by Matt Hardy Collector on Oct 6, 2019 22:31:11 GMT -5
This was about as terrible as Hogan v Warrior 2.
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Post by Retrospect on Oct 6, 2019 22:40:26 GMT -5
I’ll take this any day over that match  |
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Oct 6, 2019 22:40:38 GMT -5
They really backed themselves into a corner when they announced the main event. Bray shouldn’t be winning the title so soon but shouldn’t be taking a loss in his second match as The Fiend. The main issue to me was the Cell. There was no need for it. If this was a standard match that ended this way then the backlash would be nowhere near this level. There was really no way that they could have done this match without facing some repercussion for it but instead, they chose the absolute worst way possible. No one should be taking several finishers and kicking out at two, let alone one.
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Post by 2sweeeeet on Oct 6, 2019 22:41:56 GMT -5
I’ll take this any day over that match Let's not get crazy though |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Oct 6, 2019 22:49:16 GMT -5
I need to mention how much I love X-Pac for telling it like it is with no fear of recourse. That match was straight up rotten, and did nothing to get either guy over with anyone over the age of 7. Would've been fine for TV alone, but as a ppv main event this is up there with Jeff Hardy vs Sting for character derailment. Unfortunately this time both guys are going to suffer
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 6, 2019 22:49:23 GMT -5
This company has been driving backwards for so long I don’t think they even realize which way forward is
If that EXACT same finish had been done by Wyatt, I can see it working. The sell is that this is a no DQ WRESTLING match, but this has to stop because you’re trying to MURDER Rollins. This is no longer wrestling and needs to stop would be the message there. This makes Wyatt look unstable and as if he couldn’t care less about a title belt. Instead they have Rollins come off like the monster....WHY?!?!?!?! WHAT GOOD DOES THIS DO?
Total Trash. This Rollins push reminds me SO much of HBK 96, where oh here comes Mick Foley, he’s hardcore...but not as hardcore as Shawn!
My greatest regret right now is that we can’t see Wyatt vs Moxley digging a grave every Wednesday night for the WWE. The matches those 2 could put on right now in that federation is almost heartbreaking to think about
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 6, 2019 22:54:35 GMT -5
This company has been driving backwards for so long I don’t think they even realize which way forward is If that EXACT same finish had been done by Wyatt, I can see it working. The sell is that this is a no DQ WRESTLING match, but this has to stop because you’re trying to MURDER Rollins. This is no longer wrestling and needs to stop would be the message there. This makes Wyatt look unstable and as if he couldn’t care less about a title belt. Instead they have Rollins come off like the monster....WHY?!?!?!?! WHAT GOOD DOES THIS DO? Total Trash. This Rollins push reminds me SO much of HBK 96, where oh here comes Mick Foley, he’s hardcore...but not as hardcore as Shawn! My greatest regret right now is that we can’t see Wyatt vs Moxley digging a grave every Wednesday night for the WWE. The matches those 2 could put on right now in that federation is almost heartbreaking to think about This is what I was saying. If you’re going to pull this crap, do it the other way around. Have Bray purposely avoid trying to win, and rather, have him trying to literally kill Seth. The ref, realizing that Bray has no intention of ending it, calls for the bell. It’s still a crappy ending but atleast Seth gets sympathy and Bray lives up to the hype. This company though just keeps finding ways to go lower and lower. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 6, 2019 22:57:09 GMT -5
FOX officials: “Why are fans booing to end the show?”
Vince: “It’s cause of that dirty heel, The Fiend. They don’t like him.”
FOX officials: “Ahh, makes sense. Now when is Cain coming out?”
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Oct 6, 2019 22:58:19 GMT -5
I'm really annoyed at the fact that WWE has zero idea on how they're supposed to be booking Seth Rollins since putting the Universal Championship on him at Wrestlemania. He went from "slaying the beast" at Wrestlemania against Brock Lesnar to feuding with Baron Corbin which devolved into Seth Rollins playing the role of Becky Lynch's boyfriend in the storyline to have him drop the championship to Brock Lesnar before winning the championship back at SummerSlam. They then shoved him into a storyline with Braun Stroman which was clearly a throwaway storyline to by time until The Fiend could come into play. That storyline begins and basically turned Rollins into a coward who is afraid of Bray Wyatt in a mask and screams in terror in the corner of the ring while Wyatt uses the claw on whatever poor soul was working with Rollins that night. And then because Seth Rollins year has just gone swimmingly.. he's apart of this complete s*** show tonight. People on Squared Circle and social media like to point out how Rollins isn't a draw. Look at his booking. Why the  would anyone care about him anymore? Rollins is easily 1B on my favorite wrestlers behind AJ Styles and it's hard for me to get invested in his stuff because it's all s*** at this point.
Alright. That's my rant for tonight.
I believe Rollins and Kingston both were victims of the flux in WWE, both Creative wise and the company in general. Their Mania wins should have been the establishment win for Seth's career and a landmark win in Kofi's, but both ended up being lame ducks while the company received a whole lotta say from the outside in what freaking direction they should take. Their feuds over the summer were hella lazy and inspired no one. Now both look way worse than they did before, no reason to believe in Kofi and no desire to support Seth anymore. Such a d*mn tragedy. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 23:19:38 GMT -5
The fiend not getting the title tonight is like the awa not putting the belt on Hogan in 1983.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 6, 2019 23:34:07 GMT -5
The Fiend sucks.
A: It's Bray Wyatt
B: He is a short, stubby man, who somehow could take any and all moves and kick out
C: He came off stronger than Hogan in the 80s, Undertaker coming back from being taken out by druids and Kane from getting a beat down, which made no sense at all!
D: I hope The Fiend goes away, the gimmick was dumb, it should never have been put into a title match, because there was no way you could have a positive winner.
E: I think The Fiend gimmick is lame, and makes Papa Shango seem legit.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 6, 2019 23:53:28 GMT -5
So the official WWE website states that this match ended in a ref stoppage, meaning that Bray was getting his butt kicked so bad that the ref had to save him. Seth is declared the winner.
And while Bray kicked out of a bunch of finishers, let’s also not forget that Seth also kicked out of a few Sister Abigails and a friggin neck snap that’s literally a fatality in the Mortal Kombat games.
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Post by jking1979 on Oct 7, 2019 0:03:23 GMT -5
The fiend not getting the title tonight is like the awa not putting the belt on Hogan in 1983. Yes. He has a great character and promo skills that could carry the company. |
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Oct 7, 2019 0:25:56 GMT -5
The Fiend sucks. A: It's Bray Wyatt B: He is a short, stubby man, who somehow could take any and all moves and kick out C: He came off stronger than Hogan in the 80s, Undertaker coming back from being taken out by druids and Kane from getting a beat down, which made no sense at all! D: I hope The Fiend goes away, the gimmick was dumb, it should never have been put into a title match, because there was no way you could have a positive winner. E: I think The Fiend gimmick is lame, and makes Papa Shango seem legit. Ehh, everyone's got an opinion. Some unpopular. Just kidding. But like you said, him kicking out of ALL those finishers was awful. I get its scripted and we are suppose to "suspend our disbelief" but let's keep SOME aspect of realism. |
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Post by Chip on Oct 7, 2019 0:59:54 GMT -5
Rollins is going to come out on RAW and cut a completely unfazed promo about how he is sorry that The Fiend made him turn into a monster, and he cant believe that he sunk that low, and "you were all right to boo me!" etc etc and the crowd is going to DESTROY him
Instead of using the match as a shifting point, Vince is going to pretend it happened exactly the way he wanted it to and everything is moving forward the way he wants it to. Whatever fans are left, are going to leave and a whole new crop is on its way in.
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Post by vampiro666 on Oct 7, 2019 2:04:52 GMT -5
OK so let me get this straight the only way they could figure out how to protect both Seth and Bray was by making the finish a DQ in a match where the DQ stipulation doesn't even exist or apply to ? wow that was the dumbest call ever why even book them in a match if that was going to be the finish all along
It would have made more sense to just have Brock run out after Seth and Kane come out after Bray then just make it end in a no contest
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Post by Darkhawk on Oct 7, 2019 3:16:50 GMT -5
Vince lost his damn mind if he really thought the finish of the match was a good idea.
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Post by WalterF on Oct 7, 2019 3:46:12 GMT -5
It almost feels like Vince knows he has a terminal illness and is trying to bury the company before he passes to maintain control.
Otherwise I can’t even fathom an explanation for how terrible that was. It was literally like they were trying to get fans to crap all over it
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Post by Odafin Tutuola on Oct 7, 2019 4:06:18 GMT -5
I didn't see this event live due to work but I watched it and here is my review on the matches
Hell In A Cell Match for the Raw Women's Championship - Becky Lynch Vs. Sasha Banks
Good Match, in all honesty better then the first Women's Cell match.
Roman Reigns and Daniel Bryan Vs. Erick Rowan and Luke Harper
Good physical match
Randy Orton Vs. Ali
Good match for a SmackDown but I would have Ali get the win
WWE Women's Tag Team Championship - Alexa Bliss & Nikki Cross Vs. Asuka & Kari Sane
Good match and love the finish.
Six Man Tag Team Match - The O.C Vs. Braun Strowman & The Viking Raiders
Okay match, belonged on Raw
Chad "Shorty" Gable Vs. King Corbin
Okay match but belonged on Raw or SmackDown
SmackDown Women's Championship - Bayley Vs. Charlotte Flair
Good match and the right person won. I felt that Bayley was a cold champion in my honest opinion.
Hell In Cell Match for the Universal Championship - Seth Rollins Vs. "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt
Good match, great story telling. I saw some kind of screwy finish and didn't mind the finish at all, Bray Wyatt doesn't need a title to be over. He should be special attraction just like The Undertaker.
I see alot of people on the social media bitching about the finish of the Hell In A Cell Match Main Event but people don't understand that Bray Wyatt is special attraction and doesn't wrestle on TV (This was "The Fiend"'s second televised match).
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