Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Sept 18, 2021 3:12:12 GMT -5
Here's an idea, the wrestlers need to stop giving in to these two schmucks who are doing the Dark Side of the Ring documentaries. Sure, you probably get paid a bit to say crap on camera, but if this team of documentary story tellers are so quick to edit and create trouble for wrestlers they had on their episodes, they would easily do it for you (the wrestler) too! I think this'll effectively kill DSOTR. Whatever they paid Tommy wouldn't compensate the money he's lost being suspended from TNA. And he's now facing the outrage mob. The boys know Tommy's a nice guy, and they've seen how DSOTR portrayed him. I can't see many people willing to talk to those two after this season ends. His situation reminds me of that Simpsons episode.
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Post by PJ on Sept 18, 2021 5:27:42 GMT -5
Being a “nice guy” to the boys and fans doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a good person. How many times have we seen on the news when someone kills or beats someone they’re always described as such a nice person who would be the last person they thought would have been capable of doing it? That’s a daily thing.
Personally I don’t think they edited his comments to fit a narrative. Clearly he still has the “boys being boys” mentality here in 2021. I truly believe that what he said is what he believes. The whole comment about people will be offended by anything and then compared people possibly being offended by his double hair bun to what Flair allegedly did to the flight attendant screams he just doesn’t get it. To him it was all just fun with the boys. And for him to say if it was so bad then why didn’t she come forward sooner or peruse it to the fullest extent of the law was in such poor taste. That’s a form of victim blaming.
The sad thing is that’s still the mentality of many of these wrestlers. Even though Dreamer even says “today it’s 1000% wrong” he needs to realize that it was still 1000% wrong then as well. They should all be embarrassed and ashamed about that flight, but instead they make light of it still or else there would have never been a Story Time animated Plane Ride From Hell episode made.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Sept 18, 2021 6:05:37 GMT -5
Y’all act like you didn’t already know Dreamer was a scumbag when he defended Michael Elgin covering up rape a few years ago.
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Sept 18, 2021 6:12:46 GMT -5
RVD and Justin Credible are the only guys that come off looking like decent people in this episode.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 6:26:08 GMT -5
I really wonder if dreamer getting suspended is going to make it more difficult to get other wrestlers to participate in the future. I honestly question if Dreamer even knew the stewardess would be apart of this episode when they interviewed him. For all we know he may have given his side of the story, been told about the stewardesses claims, and genuinely asked why she didn’t come forward sooner (and not as a callous and cold individual as so many are jumping to). Easy to take one persons side when we dont get the full story, especially with regards to a show known to pick and choose what parts of a story they want to tell. Guests are called in for a one day shoot, they sit for hours and talk about topics that can be used on multiple episodes in the season. Short term thinking and editing liberties make for dramatic television. Stars will always do these docs for the money.
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jason1980s
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Post by jason1980s on Sept 18, 2021 9:07:54 GMT -5
Tommy sees himself as some sort of white knight defender of the legends. When Howard Finkel passed, and I know they were very close, he was very quick to cite Howard's illness was some sort of brain issue and not a stroke though it had always been noted by others as stroke. When it was outed that Terry Funk had dementia he quickly tweeted he just talked with Terry and he didn't have dementia. Not long after that, same day too, Terry's assistant or management tweeted Terry did have dementia and was in a nursing home. Granted, those are kindly defenses of a legends health status but still, Tommy fancies himself as these legends protectors and he probably thinks the same thing about him and Flair.
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Post by kinnikuman on Sept 18, 2021 9:43:03 GMT -5
I have no problem putting Ric out to pasture. It's time to go, Nature Boy ... time to go.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Sept 18, 2021 10:11:10 GMT -5
Tommy Dreamer wants a Randy Savage legacy, but he has to realize he's just a Lanny Poffo.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 18, 2021 10:22:28 GMT -5
RVD and Justin Credible are the only guys that come off looking like decent people in this episode.
That sweater Justin Credible was wearing though.... ha ha ha even he said on his social media he wishes he wore another sweater now for the interview!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 12:07:49 GMT -5
Y’all act like you didn’t already know Dreamer was a scumbag when he defended Michael Elgin covering up rape a few years ago. I didn't know that. I knew Elgins allegations and everything but I don't remember reading any comments from Dreamer at the time.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Sept 18, 2021 12:25:32 GMT -5
Y’all act like you didn’t already know Dreamer was a scumbag when he defended Michael Elgin covering up rape a few years ago. I didn't know that. I knew Elgins allegations and everything but I don't remember reading any comments from Dreamer at the time. Didn't Elgin get accused again by a former fiancee?
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Post by hitmancmedge on Sept 18, 2021 13:36:19 GMT -5
I didn't know that. I knew Elgins allegations and everything but I don't remember reading any comments from Dreamer at the time. Didn't Elgin get accused again by a former fiancee? He has been accused for several things since he covered up that rape by a student of his on a female student…and made sexual advances on her as well. He is a giant scumbag.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Sept 18, 2021 14:23:54 GMT -5
Didn't Elgin get accused again by a former fiancee? He is a giant scumbag. Agreed.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 18, 2021 15:07:47 GMT -5
I just seen this on Facebook on a wrestling group.
Apparently the flight attendant has her own history that could be on a Dark Side of the Sky episode if there was one! Ha ha ha
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 18, 2021 15:37:30 GMT -5
How the turn tables.
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Post by The Real Valbroski on Sept 18, 2021 15:50:28 GMT -5
This doesn't look good for Tommy Dreamer at all. The discrediting of sexual harassment and the two ponytails.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Sept 18, 2021 16:13:37 GMT -5
The magnitude of sexual assault is mitigated if the victim has a criminal record.
Also, you might be the most easily duped person on earth if you are able to look at pictures of Heidi Doyle, jewel thief, ca. 2016 and Heidi Doyle, former flight attendant, ca. 2021, and conclude that they're the same person.
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Post by CM Tusk on Sept 18, 2021 17:17:34 GMT -5
Who cares if she has a criminal record? She was still sexually abused by Flair.
Someone having a record doesn’t mean you can commit crime against them.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 18, 2021 17:55:08 GMT -5
Who cares if she has a criminal record? She was still sexually abused by Flair. Someone having a record doesn’t mean you can commit crime against them. You’re right, but it does bring her honesty into question. Not saying she’s lying, but the story has always been that Flair walked around with Lil Naitch out. It wasn’t until the Dark Side episode that anyone claimed Flair forced himself on someone during that flight. She said Dustin helped her, but he’s never corroborated this story or confirmed it (nor has anyone else on the flight). Again, doesn’t mean she’s lying (so you can stop before claiming I’m victim blaming), but maybe we should get some more sides of the story before making conclusions based on something that happened 20 years ago and all of a sudden someone is claiming sexual abuse (a serious offense that has been abused by many false claims over the years as well). Flair could be 100% guilty, but let’s give the guy a chance to give his side of the story since he already came out saying the show misrepresented him. There is such a thing as innocent until proven guilty.
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Post by PJ on Sept 18, 2021 18:29:41 GMT -5
I am pretty sure I heard RVD confirmed her claims in the Darkside episode.
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