guster
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Post by guster on Nov 16, 2021 20:31:46 GMT -5
 With the exception of the fist size, they're pretty close. guster I'm not gonna for one second sit here and say Chella are perfect and that the figures are flawless, because they're not. I'm in the UK as you pointed out, but I haven't shat on Zombies product at all, far from it. I think the guy is doing his best, and I've said before that he needs patience from collectors for the line to come out. I hope once it does, we'll be blown away by the figures and that the next series is right around the corner. People are getting shirty with the wait, which is understandable if you've paid sure, but the guy needs time. With the argument ZST against Chella, there's no argument. Both companies are and are going to produce some fantastic figures, and some not so. To compare isn't fair on either product. I think us UK'ers are just so pleased we've for once got something local that's doing well. We get stung with Mattels same as a lot of countries compared to the US and we did the same with Jakks so it's nothing new. It's just good to have a company to get behind, it's not a favouritism against Zombie in that respect. I hope both lines succeed and continue to do so, because it's us collectors that benefit. I share much of your sent sentiment and always appreciate your positivity both here and on the twitter machine. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Nov 16, 2021 22:45:24 GMT -5
Head is great, much better than Jakks Classics Brody, but far too realistic to go with Hasbros.
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Post by mrh on Nov 17, 2021 2:56:26 GMT -5
Head is great, much better than Jakks Classics Brody, but far too realistic to go with Hasbros.
Exactly -- if this was not a Retro, I wouldn't say anything. But as others have said -- that head is FAR too realistic to look anything like a Hasbro. It does not fit the aesthetic at all.
And as Scott! said, it looks like a miniature statue head, not a Hasbro head. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Nov 17, 2021 3:23:17 GMT -5
Head is great, much better than Jakks Classics Brody, but far too realistic to go with Hasbros.
Exactly -- if this was not a Retro, I wouldn't say anything. But as others have said -- that head is FAR too realistic to look anything like a Hasbro. It does not fit the aesthetic at all.
And as Scott! said, it looks like a miniature statue head, not a Hasbro head. Which is fine if you want to collect these as their own thing, but advertising them as building your Hasbro collection seems off. They don’t look like they fit in with Hasbros despite having the Hasbro artist and being put on Hasbro style cards. The Chella figures have their flaws too but for the most part if you put them next to Hasbro figures they fit better. Regardless of feelings towards the guy himself, Zombies figures do look really good. I could see wanting to collect them all. I want the Gage and Cardona figures. It just feels like they should be promoted as their own thing instead of as Hasbro style figures. Outside the size and shape, I just don’t see much of a connection. Mattel’s look closer, though they also look like knockoffs to me at the same time. |
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Nov 17, 2021 3:24:04 GMT -5
Tbf there is a major pod video from a few days ago ot so where zombie takes shots at chella saying how his are proper figures and not print to order etc Also in interviews he’s taken shots at them - not the best way to make friends And tbf, he's not wrong. You can still enjoy Chella's figures and that can still be an accurate statement. A bunch of people on here trying to take the "moral high ground" or something when all of us has/have supported WWE in our lives is pretty ironic. Guy saying mean and somewhat accurate things vs. a company that routinely embarrass their employees and actions have lead to sexual assaults and even death. But the toy guy said some mean things so we have to pretend like the figures he's putting out are complete crap. Gimme a break. I've heard this a few times about alleged embarrassing employees, sexual assaults and death. Possibly all from you? Can you elaborate on this as I've never heard or read anything about it and any sources to back up such extreme allegations? |
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Post by britishbrickfan on Nov 17, 2021 6:42:06 GMT -5
And tbf, he's not wrong. You can still enjoy Chella's figures and that can still be an accurate statement. A bunch of people on here trying to take the "moral high ground" or something when all of us has/have supported WWE in our lives is pretty ironic. Guy saying mean and somewhat accurate things vs. a company that routinely embarrass their employees and actions have lead to sexual assaults and even death. But the toy guy said some mean things so we have to pretend like the figures he's putting out are complete crap. Gimme a break. I've heard this a few times about alleged embarrassing employees, sexual assaults and death. Possibly all from you? Can you elaborate on this as I've never heard or read anything about it and any sources to back up such extreme allegations? I assume he's referring to WWE's history with the allegations? I did not take that sentence to mean those allegations were about Chella (which is a very small family-run company) |
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Nov 17, 2021 8:40:53 GMT -5
I've heard this a few times about alleged embarrassing employees, sexual assaults and death. Possibly all from you? Can you elaborate on this as I've never heard or read anything about it and any sources to back up such extreme allegations? I assume he's referring to WWE's history with the allegations? I did not take that sentence to mean those allegations were about Chella (which is a very small family-run company) Ah right. With the context of the topic I was guessing it was about Chella. Bringing WWE into it is definitely a bit left field hence the confusion. |
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Post by newgenandy on Nov 17, 2021 9:29:05 GMT -5
I assume he's referring to WWE's history with the allegations? I did not take that sentence to mean those allegations were about Chella (which is a very small family-run company) Ah right. With the context of the topic I was guessing it was about Chella. Bringing WWE into it is definitely a bit left field hence the confusion. It’s very random to bring in I support a lot of small / independent creators, artists, etc etc and in the main they all support each other even though they could be seen as competitors - they build a nice community Zombie seems to want to play the big guy and constantly puts others down snd talks about his his are the best. That’s not conducive to building a good supportive scene - and he’s done it multiple times |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Nov 17, 2021 10:31:34 GMT -5
Zombie's are the best. Just take his word for it, because you can't actually hold the product in your hand yet, and you still won't be able to for another 3 months. But they're the best. He said so.
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Post by loosecannon on Nov 17, 2021 12:00:18 GMT -5
Chella and Zombie both have their pros and cons. And the best thing is they both have something for everyone. I prefer Zombie's line right now only because he is doing a lot more 80's/90's American wrestling guys. I eally hope Chella rolls out Demolition in their line since they are releasing those Funko look alikes. And one of them needs to sign LOD.
As far as being 100% accurate to Hasbros, I never really expected that. I expected similar but not 100% the same given it's 30 years past what was available to create molds in 1990
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Post by kinnikuman on Nov 17, 2021 13:21:36 GMT -5
Got my Jay White (black) today. No branding on the figure which is odd. Looking forward to doing major surgery to the head to make a Jay White elite, lol.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Nov 17, 2021 13:27:25 GMT -5
Got my Jay White (black) today. No branding on the figure which is odd. Looking forward to doing major surgery to the head to make a Jay White elite, lol. I’d be interested in taking the body if you’ve no use for it? |
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Post by newgenandy on Nov 17, 2021 13:51:14 GMT -5
Chella and Zombie both have their pros and cons. And the best thing is they both have something for everyone. I prefer Zombie's line right now only because he is doing a lot more 80's/90's American wrestling guys. I eally hope Chella rolls out Demolition in their line since they are releasing those Funko look alikes. And one of them needs to sign LOD. As far as being 100% accurate to Hasbros, I never really expected that. I expected similar but not 100% the same given it's 30 years past what was available to create molds in 1990 Zombie has put up the bundy and yeah it does look good but it looks like a statue - it doesn’t have a figure aesthetic- the face looks 3D printed and not like how wrestling figures, or any figures for that matter look |
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Post by loosecannon on Nov 17, 2021 13:57:39 GMT -5
beggers can't be choosers I guess. I'm a MOC collector so buying Hasbros at $100/pop isn't worth it to me. I have a few, but happy to be able to get some form of retro figures and continue the collection without paying a ton. We'll see how Mattel's 2nd try comes out as well.
I do see your point about them being statues. we'll see how they look when they are actually in our hands. I have a feeling they won't look as statuesque as these protos do.
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Post by Scott! on Nov 17, 2021 14:03:34 GMT -5
beggers can't be choosers I guess. I'm a MOC collector so buying Hasbros at $100/pop isn't worth it to me. I have a few, but happy to be able to get some form of retro figures and continue the collection without paying a ton. We'll see how Mattel's 2nd try comes out as well. I do see your point about them being statues. we'll see how they look when they are actually in our hands I’m 100% the same as you. I want to collect the Hasbro figures MOC, but it just isn’t financially doable. I’m part of a group on Twitter where all the guys are diehard hasbro fans/collectors so they kind of got me into it and I had a few loose. I just love the packaging and the way they look MOC displayed together. Chella are the closest thing to me as them and that’s why I’m backing that line so much. Zombies look great, I want to see them when they’re done to decide whether I collect them too or just stick to Chella. Zombies are that bit more expensive being in the UK but that’s not put me off yet. I just can’t wait to see the finished product!! |
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Post by loosecannon on Nov 17, 2021 14:29:52 GMT -5
beggers can't be choosers I guess. I'm a MOC collector so buying Hasbros at $100/pop isn't worth it to me. I have a few, but happy to be able to get some form of retro figures and continue the collection without paying a ton. We'll see how Mattel's 2nd try comes out as well. I do see your point about them being statues. we'll see how they look when they are actually in our hands I’m 100% the same as you. I want to collect the Hasbro figures MOC, but it just isn’t financially doable. I’m part of a group on Twitter where all the guys are diehard hasbro fans/collectors so they kind of got me into it and I had a few loose. I just love the packaging and the way they look MOC displayed together. Chella are the closest thing to me as them and that’s why I’m backing that line so much. Zombies look great, I want to see them when they’re done to decide whether I collect them too or just stick to Chella. Zombies are that bit more expensive being in the UK but that’s not put me off yet. I just can’t wait to see the finished product!! yeah i've tried to give the newer Mattel Legends and Ultimates a chance instead of Hasbro/Retros, but I just love how the Hasbros/Retros display. So i'm just waiting until next year for more retro figures. I've given up on ebay and facebook for hasbro moc's. everything is $100 plus that i want. I'm hoping Mattel release Andre, Hogan, Dibiase, Rude, Bret, a better HBK and so on. I haven't seen a Chella i liked yet. Dynamite was a close purchase, but decided not to. But they do make great figures. And the UK wrestlers they have like Big Daddy and Haystacks are  ing aweseome looking figures. |
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Post by newgenandy on Nov 17, 2021 15:00:35 GMT -5
The bubble will pop on hasbros and other figures like other collectibles
The market was artificially inflated by the pandemic snd it’s yet to come back down. Give it a couple of years snd people won’t be able to get rid of stuff anywhere close to the extortionate prove they paid
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Post by guster on Nov 17, 2021 15:08:43 GMT -5
And tbf, he's not wrong. You can still enjoy Chella's figures and that can still be an accurate statement. A bunch of people on here trying to take the "moral high ground" or something when all of us has/have supported WWE in our lives is pretty ironic. Guy saying mean and somewhat accurate things vs. a company that routinely embarrass their employees and actions have lead to sexual assaults and even death. But the toy guy said some mean things so we have to pretend like the figures he's putting out are complete crap. Gimme a break. I've heard this a few times about alleged embarrassing employees, sexual assaults and death. Possibly all from you? Can you elaborate on this as I've never heard or read anything about it and any sources to back up such extreme allegations? I was speaking of WWE in regards to those allegations. One of the top things Zombie's detractors constantly bring up here, is he was rude or mean and they morally can't support him. That's fine if you honestly believe in those morals, but it's completely hypocritical to continue to happily buy WWE products which has done far worse and actually pretend like you're standing up for something. What it boils down for me, is consistency with your views and critiques. I'm not going to point to specific examples as it will lead to more drama, but there are critiques for Zombie's figures that can apply to Chella's. But we don't see those critiques in the Chella thread from the same people who can't wait to come over and bash Zombie. I'm just asking to bring that same energy for both lines if you're going to be super critical. |
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Post by onlymoc21 on Nov 17, 2021 16:44:59 GMT -5
Man that Brody head is giving me all kinds of TNA era Kevin Nash vibes lol. Lower body is not bad, the sculpted knee pad is a nice addition.
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Post by onlymoc21 on Nov 17, 2021 17:01:25 GMT -5
I've heard this a few times about alleged embarrassing employees, sexual assaults and death. Possibly all from you? Can you elaborate on this as I've never heard or read anything about it and any sources to back up such extreme allegations? I was speaking of WWE in regards to those allegations. One of the top things Zombie's detractors constantly bring up here, is he was rude or mean and they morally can't support him. That's fine if you honestly believe in those morals, but it's completely hypocritical to continue to happily buy WWE products which has done far worse and actually pretend like you're standing up for something. What it boils down for me, is consistency with your views and critiques. I'm not going to point to specific examples as it will lead to more drama, but there are critiques for Zombie's figures that can apply to Chella's. But we don't see those critiques in the Chella thread from the same people who can't wait to come over and bash Zombie. I'm just asking to bring that same energy for both lines if you're going to be super critical. Dude it’s 2021 and the retros have a huge fanbase and it’s ok for people to prefer one or the other, the positives and negatives, that’s opinions and everyone is entitled to it. You do understand that ZST has taken the low road a number of times and knocked Chella, regardless of his approach and there’s, he should conduct himself better, how he comes across and is perceived is all his own doing and if you are the face of a brand any negative impact he himself causes reflects his business, truthfully his product is ok to me, but he has made a number to comments that are uncalled for, not to forget his podcast friends using their platform to knock Chella product to help the ZST line (until recently). Chella has taken the high road every time, have never talked bad about ZST or acknowledge him for that matter. Their interaction alone with fans is something to be admired. My point is it’s healthy competition and it is what it is. When ZST puts out a product a lot of opinions can maybe changed but until then the dude is in no position to talk down any product. He just comes across as jealous that he is being out worked and if he can’t handle what Chella is bringing, this retro market is going to kick into high gear once Mattel steps in. |
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I dont know good luck 
