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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 24, 2021 0:05:21 GMT -5
That Undertaker looks like a Jakks Deluxe Aggression figure. Yikes. Yeah... I said the same thing about the Jeff Hardy UE. 😬
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jul 24, 2021 1:07:03 GMT -5
These headscans not coming in so hot
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Post by coldblooded on Jul 24, 2021 1:11:30 GMT -5
That is THEE definitive Kane figure. If only 1 Kane can be in your collection, THIS is the one.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 24, 2021 1:21:31 GMT -5
When you zoom in on it I think the main Undertaker face actually looks good.
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 24, 2021 1:49:13 GMT -5
When you zoom in on it I think the main Undertaker face actually looks good. You mean when it is all blurry and pixelated??? Just kidding. I have heard people say that the one Bill showed in the video looked much better. Hopefully that is true.
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Post by skogen on Jul 24, 2021 1:50:44 GMT -5
I don't think the Taker looks as bad as some people are saying but the Kane is amazing.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 24, 2021 1:54:28 GMT -5
When you zoom in on it I think the main Undertaker face actually looks good. You mean when it is all blurry and pixelated??? Just kidding. I have heard people say that the one Bill showed in the video looked much better. Hopefully that is true. I mean I’m sure it’ll look good in hand.
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Post by uc on Jul 24, 2021 2:26:25 GMT -5
Absolutely love that Kane, will be a must have. Not totally sold on Taker but I enjoy the Ultimate line so will pick up as well
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Jul 24, 2021 5:17:37 GMT -5
I am BLOWN AWAY by that Kane. When I got E12 many moons ago, I was very satisfied with it despite some obvious flaws. It was a really good figure. But this one...the thicker parts/chest, the shiny LACELESS boots, the hair-back mask design, the CAPE...this is as good as it gets for '97 Kane. What a dream figure.
I love how Taker looks with the entrance gear, but the torso top looks kinda goofy being so wide. The head looks a little too aged, and the TrueFX on his beard is way off, specifically the mustache area. Shouldn't be too hard to fix, but hopefully it'll look better in-hand. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with it. Looks like they went the extra mile and gave him special legs, too.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Jul 24, 2021 5:33:34 GMT -5
Wow! On Taker, I think people are being too critical than is deserved especially on the unique headacan. Yes the gloves should have been smoother, I wonder if it will look better with the wrist those little wrist parts removed, I’m going to give that a go because it may make it look a bit closer in terms of length. If there’s any disappointment about the hands, it should more be the fact he only has one open hand and not two to do the hands raising motion. I personally really dig the scan with the hair down, I don’t see the Jackson reference at all. The problem is with the other two heads that are too modern and generic, I won’t use either of them and plus I intend to have the coat on him. They could have done better with those other two scans as he looks too old with too high of a hairline and needs more colour in his facial hair. I really think they should’ve gone with the fluffier hair look or another with hair hanging down his face as those were how I remember him. The slicked back hair looks are modern taker. The torso is a little skinny at the mid section but I think the skin colour near his abdomen is contributing. If you made the top less bulky then his arms would look gigantic. Overall I’m happy with it, just would’ve seen more potential in the other heads. Kane on the other hand, bias aside is one of the best figures ever. Man I cannot wait to own it. It’s like a wishlist of every Kane figures demands. New masked scans (and two good ones!!), shiny lace less boots, all moulded gauntlets and belts, finally some jacked arms and then that rare cape and accessories to cap it off. Will look so great with the open hands. The slicked back hair look is different but oh so good and the strap detail looks awesome. From early Kane I always remember those straps and the neck section because the very mystery of him back then was any glimpse of his face area. This really sets the standard for all Kane figures and perhaps one that cannot be beat. It has me drooling at the idea of a proper 2001 Kane with molded details. I really really really hope they do it because it would be a thing of beauty if done to this standard. One can only hope. Can’t wait to own these but thanks to the incredible detail in that Kane, finally in fig form we can all complete one of the most iconic showdowns/stare offs ever:
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 24, 2021 6:45:02 GMT -5
I’ve seen the Bill video of him holding the Taker and it still looks way off to me. He looks about 80!
Better head to use would have been the defining moments from 1996 look. Crazy given that scans should be way better than years ago but that face with the correct hair and goatee would be far more like the accuracy needed.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Jul 24, 2021 6:54:39 GMT -5
I've had a quick go in photoshop. I reckon they needed full eyebrows, heavier facial hair and upon looking at it more they went too heavy with the eye makeup. He even had more dark red to his hair then.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 24, 2021 7:12:48 GMT -5
Oh, man. I was so distracted by the fact that they gave the Undertaker the torso from the yet-to-be-revealed Ultimate Edition Jordynne Grace figure that I didn't even notice the MMA gloves LOL
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 24, 2021 7:20:17 GMT -5
How could Mattel absolutely nail Kane but absolutely butcher a much-wanted Taker at the same time?
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Post by judas on Jul 24, 2021 8:26:27 GMT -5
Re: Taker
If they correct that abomination of an entrance head and make the upper torso a bit slimmer then it’ll be good. They have to fix this stuff though because as it is it is just awful.
The gloves I can swap out. As a last resort I’m hoping the Bret showdown Taker head comes out ok and I’ll plop that on it. But man that upper torso kills it for me.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 24, 2021 8:31:59 GMT -5
The real face scan stuff is doing the same thing wrong that the video games get wrong. It’s easier to scan their face in real life so everybody that’s still alive has an old face and they try to decorate it younger. 2k does the same thing
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jul 24, 2021 8:35:21 GMT -5
Kane is fantastic. Taker is...something totally different. His 3 heads look like 3 different people cosplaying as Taker in some sort of weird real slimshady type deal.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 24, 2021 10:02:31 GMT -5
I've had a quick go in photoshop. I reckon they needed full eyebrows, heavier facial hair and upon looking at it more they went too heavy with the eye makeup. He even had more dark red to his hair then. Fair play to having a go…you’re right about the hair colour too but of all the things, I could live with that. It’s the droopy old man face with lines/creases and you’re right, he didn’t go that heavy with make up until like two years ago. Just a CRAZY choice for a premium figure of one of the all time greats that fans have wanted forever…I’m so pissed about it. Having watched the video, Steve and Bill said they’ve nailed it so my hopes of this being changed have diminished. Nobody can tell me Mattel genuinely looked at that head and said ‘yep we’ve nailed it!’ - they’re trying to polish a turd here. Final nail in the coffin for me will be if you can only have that MJ head on with the entrance coat which it sounded like what Bill said in the video. You can’t have that thing on show and pretend it’s great.
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Post by PJ on Jul 24, 2021 10:07:30 GMT -5
Kane looks great. Taker looks good but the head sculpts are not that great. Looks like they repurposed the ghostbuster head on one of them. They should have used the head sculpt from the Bret/Taker 2-pack, the one with the teardrop tattoo under the eye. I think two of the Taker heads are good. But the Gene Simmons tongue scan isn’t that great.
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Post by Andeh on Jul 24, 2021 10:57:06 GMT -5
I just want accurate gloves and a upper torso that isn't wider than the lower. I don't understand how this gets through the design team, anyone can look at it be like "its too wide on top". 2 minutes on photoshop and it looks much nicer. Surely they don't sculpt the torso once and immedietly create the mould, I don't get it. I'm not as worried by the "MJ" head tbh, it currently looks hand painted, I'm sure it will look better with trueFX. Its a damn shame because the Kane is absolutely perfect imo.
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