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Post by wheeljack83 on Jul 25, 2021 21:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 15:01:00 GMT -5
And it happened again today. Forgive me for working so I can provide for my family and buy Legends 12 ... but I missed the 10 minutes on-line at Target ... which tells me something is terribly wrong AGAIN! Why can't ringside get a batch? Why can't Target order more so this at least lasts for a day? Why can't we be a year out as in crowdfunding so people can by 100 of them if they want. Target makes more money - Mattel makes more money - and the collectors have time to do what they need to do. Even if it was a 2 to 4 week availability. JOKE! A HUGE SLAP to Collectors! "Legends don't sell" and the line is gone within ten minutes or less. Mmmmmmmmmm! SCREAMMMMMMMM in utter frustration!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 15:07:13 GMT -5
And it happened again today. Forgive me for working so I can provide for my family and buy Legends 12 ... but I missed the 10 minutes on-line at Target ... which tells me something is terribly wrong AGAIN! Why can't ringside get a batch? Why can't Target order more so this at least lasts for a day? Why can't we be a year out as in crowdfunding so people can by 100 of them if they want. Target makes more money - Mattel makes more money - and the collectors have time to do what they need to do. Even if it was a 2 to 4 week availability. JOKE! A HUGE SLAP to Collectors! "Legends don't sell" and the line is gone within ten minutes or less. Mmmmmmmmmm! SCREAMMMMMMMM in utter frustration! I can tell you one thing, it lasted longer than 10 min. I posted at like 9:05 this morning about 5 min after they were suppose to drop and they didn’t at the time, within a min or 2 they popped up, I went to target online about 20-30 min later and was able to pre order all 4. So they were up atleast 35-40 min |
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Post by razorrock on Jul 29, 2021 15:58:08 GMT -5
At least today showed improvement from the recent pre orders that lasted less than 5 minutes. It wasn't perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better. Afa posted the date and time he was told they would be up and it was on the money.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 29, 2021 16:26:01 GMT -5
I've never understood the "I work" complaint.
I mean...I work. I have since I was 14 (I'm 36 now). Most people work.
It sucks, but that's kind of life's big opportunity cost. Limited on-sales aren't exclusive to the realm of wrestling action figures. Goods of a limited quantity go on sale during working hours all the time. I can't count how many concert pre-sales or on-sales I've missed on account of work. It sucks to suck, but replace eBay with StubHub (they're the same thing) and you've basically got the same set of circumstances. Sure, they could move the pre-sale window to 5:30 in the afternoon, but then the west coast is still up in arms because it's still the middle of the working day there, and even in a universal timezone, now your second shift gets the shaft. There's no perfect situation to resolve the "I work" scenario because someone's always going to lose.
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Post by dynamitekido on Jul 29, 2021 16:32:51 GMT -5
I've never understood the "I work" complaint. I mean...I work. I have since I was 14 (I'm 36 now). Most people work. It sucks, but that's kind of life's big opportunity cost. Limited on-sales aren't exclusive to the realm of wrestling action figures. Goods of a limited quantity go on sale during working hours all the time. I can't count how many concert pre-sales or on-sales I've missed on account of work. It sucks to suck, but replace eBay with StubHub (they're the same thing) and you've basically got the same set of circumstances. Sure, they could move the pre-sale window to 5:30 in the afternoon, but then the west coast is still up in arms because it's still the middle of the working day there, and even in a universal timezone, now your second shift gets the shaft. There's no perfect situation to resolve the "I work" scenario because someone's always going to lose. Yeah, but these things aren’t ultra limited product. They’re not like concert tickets (which can sometimes be region locked to save tix for locals), and they’re never announced like “these go on sale at 9am on Friday the 23rd!” either. These are random ass PRESALE drops. Like they can easily limit how many people can buy and then have them on sale for however long. They control the amounts that are made. The only place that seems to do this presale of wrestling figures correctly is Ringside. Everything else is random rapid fire nonsense for figures that are made in abundance. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 29, 2021 16:38:10 GMT -5
I've never understood the "I work" complaint. I mean...I work. I have since I was 14 (I'm 36 now). Most people work. It sucks, but that's kind of life's big opportunity cost. Limited on-sales aren't exclusive to the realm of wrestling action figures. Goods of a limited quantity go on sale during working hours all the time. I can't count how many concert pre-sales or on-sales I've missed on account of work. It sucks to suck, but replace eBay with StubHub (they're the same thing) and you've basically got the same set of circumstances. Sure, they could move the pre-sale window to 5:30 in the afternoon, but then the west coast is still up in arms because it's still the middle of the working day there, and even in a universal timezone, now your second shift gets the shaft. There's no perfect situation to resolve the "I work" scenario because someone's always going to lose. Yeah, but these things aren’t ultra limited product. They’re not like concert tickets (which can sometimes be region locked to save tix for locals), and they’re never announced like “ these go on sale at 9am on Friday the 23rd!” either. These are random ass PRESALE drops. Like they can easily limit how many people can buy and then have them on sale for however long. They control the amounts that are made. The only place that seems to do this presale of wrestling figures correctly is Ringside. Everything else is random rapid fire nonsense for figures that are made in abundance. I mean, that's exactly what happened here. We knew that the pre-sale was going live today at approximately 9am EST, and with the most minor of hiccups, that's what happened. I think it's a bit more than we can discuss to really speak to the quantities though when, to the best of my knowledge, we've never been provided production numbers from the ins we have at Mattel. Nevertheless, I think there's ground to stand on in suggesting that, given the limited pre-order availability, paired against the quantities that tend to hit stores, these are limited enough. They're not concert tickets, no, but it's not exactly something produced en masse like OTC medications or other consumables. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 16:41:39 GMT -5
Yeah, but these things aren’t ultra limited product. They’re not like concert tickets (which can sometimes be region locked to save tix for locals), and they’re never announced like “ these go on sale at 9am on Friday the 23rd!” either. These are random ass PRESALE drops. Like they can easily limit how many people can buy and then have them on sale for however long. They control the amounts that are made. The only place that seems to do this presale of wrestling figures correctly is Ringside. Everything else is random rapid fire nonsense for figures that are made in abundance. I mean, that's exactly what happened here. We knew that the pre-sale was going live today at approximately 9am EST, and with the most minor of hiccups, that's what happened. I think it's a bit more than we can discuss to really speak to the quantities though when, to the best of my knowledge, we've never been provided production numbers from the ins we have at Mattel. Nevertheless, I think there's ground to stand on in suggesting that, given the limited pre-order availability, paired against the quantities that tend to hit stores, these are limited enough. They're not concert tickets, no, but it's not exactly something produced en masse like OTC medications or other consumables. In the past I’ve always found ways to make pre orders while at work, people were told they were gonna go up at 9. I would have been on the crapper at 8:58 waiting, can’t tell me you have a job that you can’t plan a sht |
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Post by LA Times on Jul 29, 2021 16:48:56 GMT -5
I've never understood the "I work" complaint. I mean...I work. I have since I was 14 (I'm 36 now). Most people work. It sucks, but that's kind of life's big opportunity cost. Limited on-sales aren't exclusive to the realm of wrestling action figures. Goods of a limited quantity go on sale during working hours all the time. I can't count how many concert pre-sales or on-sales I've missed on account of work. It sucks to suck, but replace eBay with StubHub (they're the same thing) and you've basically got the same set of circumstances. Sure, they could move the pre-sale window to 5:30 in the afternoon, but then the west coast is still up in arms because it's still the middle of the working day there, and even in a universal timezone, now your second shift gets the shaft. There's no perfect situation to resolve the "I work" scenario because someone's always going to lose. People were using that complaint when toys were available in stores. "Why are the figures stocked/released at ##:##? Why cant they be put online? I have to work." Now they are put online and people still complain about having to work and not being in front of a computer. |
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 16:49:58 GMT -5
"Legends don't sell" What do you think of that argument now? That is what we heard for awhile. I am grateful to Steve for fighting for us. Concerts to figures is not a comparison. 36 years old? Try being 59 when there was no way to get on-line and you had to go drive to store to store. There wasn't the collector base then that there is now so it was almost easier and with technology it should be even easier NOW.
Again, I am surprised that some fellow collectors have the mindset of screw you - I got mine - deal with it or quit. For those who understand my heart ... I thank you! Bottom line ... I want ALL of you get what you want! I want Mattel to sell more! I want Target to sell more or whomever is the retailer. I want a win win for all. I am going to strive for it until I 'm totally over it ... and if and when that happens ... I will seek a positive board member to get first dibs of my collection not the negative people. Sorry.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 16:56:23 GMT -5
Sometimes the "people" on here that are negative to those that missed out - or make a point to be critical of others really makes me wonder:
1. Are they just nasty people who don't care about fellow collectors?
2. Are they scalpers who know they can charge more now?
3. Are they shills for Mattel to make everything great and try to shut people up for caring and wanting a greater opportunity to BUY!
I really could careless ...
I appreciate this forum for allowing us to have a voice to share our passions, hope for Mattel's success, and allow for constructive criticism.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 16:56:43 GMT -5
Ah, a WWE figure martyr.
The People of WFigs vs. Target
To answer you’re question, it’s neither of those three. It’s being a realistic person and not complaining that we didn’t get our toys while we were at our job. We understand it’s not a big deal and move on with our lives, rather than throwing a tantrum online and aiming to “make” a company “fix” their business practices and if not, “threatening” to quit collecting.
*couldn’t care less
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Post by guster on Jul 29, 2021 17:06:43 GMT -5
I'll just say this - if you want something bad enough, you'll find a way to get it. Whether that being driving to 8 different stores on a Saturday afternoon, paying "scalper" prices or re-scheduling meetings/work to be able to access an on-sale date. I've been collecting this line since the very beginning and I can count on one hand the number of times I WASN'T ever in a position to find a WWE Mattel action figure I wanted for retail cost.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 29, 2021 17:10:32 GMT -5
TIL that discussing the unfortunate realities of life and the machinations of a finite budget of life resources is spreading "negativity".
I guess if you missed the pre-order, you would've also missed everyone in that thread sharing their search filters or outright bucking the forum rules to share the links when they went live so that everybody could get theirs.
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Post by dynamitekido on Jul 29, 2021 18:38:51 GMT -5
Yeah, but these things aren’t ultra limited product. They’re not like concert tickets (which can sometimes be region locked to save tix for locals), and they’re never announced like “ these go on sale at 9am on Friday the 23rd!” either. These are random ass PRESALE drops. Like they can easily limit how many people can buy and then have them on sale for however long. They control the amounts that are made. The only place that seems to do this presale of wrestling figures correctly is Ringside. Everything else is random rapid fire nonsense for figures that are made in abundance. I mean, that's exactly what happened here. We knew that the pre-sale was going live today at approximately 9am EST, and with the most minor of hiccups, that's what happened. I think it's a bit more than we can discuss to really speak to the quantities though when, to the best of my knowledge, we've never been provided production numbers from the ins we have at Mattel. Nevertheless, I think there's ground to stand on in suggesting that, given the limited pre-order availability, paired against the quantities that tend to hit stores, these are limited enough. They're not concert tickets, no, but it's not exactly something produced en masse like OTC medications or other consumables. Okay, I’ll give you this one with date and time but how often do they do that and it doesn’t happen without any notice? I will totally agree that these are somewhere between ultra limited and plentiful as meds or water per se. My main point is that this doesn’t need to be as complicated and complicated to give a company money. Guys here were spending hours online refreshing websites to even try and preorder stuff. That’s beyond having to be unreasonable to buy something. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 18:55:02 GMT -5
I mean, that's exactly what happened here. We knew that the pre-sale was going live today at approximately 9am EST, and with the most minor of hiccups, that's what happened. I think it's a bit more than we can discuss to really speak to the quantities though when, to the best of my knowledge, we've never been provided production numbers from the ins we have at Mattel. Nevertheless, I think there's ground to stand on in suggesting that, given the limited pre-order availability, paired against the quantities that tend to hit stores, these are limited enough. They're not concert tickets, no, but it's not exactly something produced en masse like OTC medications or other consumables. Okay, I’ll give you this one with date and time but how often do they do that and it doesn’t happen without any notice? I will totally agree that these are somewhere between ultra limited and plentiful as meds or water per se. My main point is that this doesn’t need to be as complicated and complicated to give a company money. Guys here were spending hours online refreshing websites to even try and preorder stuff. That’s beyond having to be unreasonable to buy something. Like anything else in life with “material value”, there’s people out there looking to make money from it. Whether it’s “bots” used to beat the system, or someone just ordering as many as they can before they sell out. Resellers are a part (albeit maybe not a huge part) of the collecting “scene”. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 29, 2021 18:58:43 GMT -5
How is this still an active thread?
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Post by jacobl18 on Jul 29, 2021 19:04:27 GMT -5
How embarrassing that a no name company can get Jeff Jarrett, Dino Bravo, Haku, Adam Bomb , MR. Hughes all signed to make figures but the biggest toy company and wrestling company couldn’t. I’m also tired of the “legends don’t sell” argument. If you put Baston Booger in the legends line he would sell like crazy.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jul 29, 2021 19:12:46 GMT -5
How embarrassing that a no name company can get Jeff Jarrett, Dino Bravo, Haku, Adam Bomb , MR. Hughes all signed to make figures but the biggest toy company and wrestling company couldn’t. I’m also tired of the “legends don’t sell” argument. If you put Baston Booger in the legends line he would sell like crazy. You know that WWE doesn't allow Mattel to sign other guys to deals independently right? |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jul 29, 2021 19:47:50 GMT -5
I’m over the constant whining and complaining on this forum. Selling your entire collection because you couldnt preorder something is a complete overreaction and just childish. The main line basics and elites are easily accessible on Ringside and many other websites and stores. Those are the majority of the figures released by Mattel so the majority is accessible.
But let’s start with the collectors edition figure. The collectors edition figures are only one figure per set. I’ve accepted the fact that I will never find one in stores and I buy each of those on eBay. But it all comes down to patience. Everyone complains that the figures are sold for ridiculous prices on eBay, but the prices go down after a few weeks. For example, Kama was selling for over $100 when it was first hitting the shelves. Now you can find it for $40 including shipping. That is not a bad deal, especially since I don’t need to waste any time or gas.
As for the Target Legends, the preorders are always a nightmare, but the majority of those figures can be found on the shelves (sometimes even before the preorders ship out). And don’t lie and say “you’ve never found one.” Heenan, Orndorff, and Guerrero were (and are) clogging the shelves. But again, if you’re patient, you’ll be able to get most of these at a decent price someone else as well.
Lastly, enough complaining about the UE Slaughter figure. That was a convention exclusive. It is not meant to get to everyone. It may suck but that’s the truth. I am a big Funko collector and I know for a fact that there will be quite a few that I’ll miss out on for this years Con. I don’t cry about it and threaten to sell off my collection. I either do without or try to find it for a decent price later.
The figures you are complaining about are all exclusives in some form or another. Exclusives are not always going to be easily to find. That is is any toy line. Either deal with it or don’t.
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I dont know good luck 
