Billy Snorticus
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 28, 2021 2:32:37 GMT -5
if everyone who voted no backed it, it'd be past 1k now
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Post by casanova on Jul 28, 2021 4:26:40 GMT -5
If there are indeed 5k made, I wonder what will the resell value. Can I buy a second one and resell it later without any loss or will it fall in value? I wouldn’t mind buying a second one if I knew Doink will be included... argh! Decisions! Nothing has a better turn around value over time like wrestlers do. If somebody WAS looking to scalp something, I would say it’s pretty cut and dry that wrestlers have the best resell value over a short period of time. And they pretty much retain that value or go up as time goes on. But yea, it’s a pretty safe bet that if you were to hold onto it for a year or so, it’ll be worth a good amount of change. Not aiming for profit here. Just thinking about supporting it as much as I can because I really want that Doink (and Diesel). On the other hand, it’s Mattel. They don’t need the payment up front. If they wouldn’t charge my CC until the backing period is over, I would already have ordered two. |
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jacobl18
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Post by jacobl18 on Jul 28, 2021 4:31:34 GMT -5
the more people say "no" and complain about it, the higher the chance of it not succeeding because negativity is contagious. as a community we SHOULD be supporting this and not trashing it at every turn. its ok to bring up some fair points about what we think they could or should have done. but in the end nothing is going to change it, whats done is done. so if we ever want to see anything else like this again we should be forking over the cash for this. in the end, its a pretty cool stage piece, an amazing looking ring, and a decent figure. $250 isnt THAT unreasonable for it. haslab is selling people just a giant action figure with lights n crap for WAY more Nobody should be strong armed into supporting something they don't want just incase they get something they want in the future. Especially for $250. Even if you don’t want this you can still buy it and resell it for double the money. If this gets made the value will sky rocket. I’ve already placed 3 orders so I can resell 2 of them. |
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Post by razorrock on Jul 28, 2021 4:37:30 GMT -5
Nobody should be strong armed into supporting something they don't want just incase they get something they want in the future. Especially for $250. Even if you don’t want this you can still buy it and resell it for double the money. If this gets made the value will sky rocket. I’ve already placed 3 orders so I can resell 2 of them. I wish more people realized this. If you don't want it, back it anyway and resell it! |
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Billy Snorticus
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 28, 2021 4:46:38 GMT -5
Even if you don’t want this you can still buy it and resell it for double the money. If this gets made the value will sky rocket. I’ve already placed 3 orders so I can resell 2 of them. I wish more people realized this. If you don't want it, back it anyway and resell it! this ring is a big community effort and even if you don't like it, i'd say still back it cause we can get so much cool crapin the future (new chamber, smackdown fist, etc) |
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 28, 2021 5:07:07 GMT -5
If there are still people on the fence, I don't think focusing on/telling them to spend $250 on something they don't fully want/have the room for in hopes of there being future releases (that they also might not want) is the best strategy.
I get that people want the ring, Diesel, Doink (some even want all three) so everyone has an angle to work so this gets funded so they personally get what they want, but some of the comments are going a little overboard. Just my two cents - not telling anyone to post differently - just to be aware that some of the comments might actually turn off the people who are still undecided.
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Post by chaz on Jul 28, 2021 5:57:12 GMT -5
If there are still people on the fence, I don't think focusing on/telling them to spend $250 on something they don't fully want/have the room for in hopes of there being future releases (that they also might not want) is the best strategy. I get that people want the ring, Diesel, Doink (some even want all three) so everyone has an angle to work so this gets funded so they personally get what they want, but some of the comments are going a little overboard. Just my two cents - not telling anyone to post differently - just to be aware that some of the comments might actually turn off the people who are still undecided. Agreed - people are allowed to decide either way if they want to back this or not and base that decision on a personal level, NOT for a "community" that only exists online. Personally, and as selfish as this sounds, I wouldn't back it just because a handful of guys here told me to because they themselves wanted it real bad. That's my $250 and I'll back it if I choose to. Think about it - if the bundle were of real value for the price and how they were offering it wasn't flawed, would there be so much hesitation / lack of backing right now? This is isn't on those people who decided not to back it. If it isn't backed, it's down to Mattel for what they offered and how they offered it. Also, for those discussing how they'll buy three to sell two of them on for inflated prices, you are also part of the problem. |
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jacobl18
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Post by jacobl18 on Jul 28, 2021 6:09:36 GMT -5
If there are still people on the fence, I don't think focusing on/telling them to spend $250 on something they don't fully want/have the room for in hopes of there being future releases (that they also might not want) is the best strategy. I get that people want the ring, Diesel, Doink (some even want all three) so everyone has an angle to work so this gets funded so they personally get what they want, but some of the comments are going a little overboard. Just my two cents - not telling anyone to post differently - just to be aware that some of the comments might actually turn off the people who are still undecided. Agreed - people are allowed to decide either way if they want to back this or not and base that decision on a personal level, NOT for a "community" that only exists online. Personally, and as selfish as this sounds, I wouldn't back it just because a handful of guys here told me to because they themselves wanted it real bad. That's my $250 and I'll back it if I choose to. Think about it - if the bundle were of real value for the price and how they were offering it wasn't flawed, would there be so much hesitation / lack of backing right now? This is isn't on those people who decided not to back it. If it isn't backed, it's down to Mattel for what they offered and how they offered it. Also, for those discussing how they'll buy three to sell two of them on for inflated prices, you are also part of the problem. I would buy 100 if I could it’s a no brainer. If this doesn’t hit 5k then you get your money back....If this does hit 5k you will own something that you will be able to sell for double or triple the price. It makes no sense not to back this. |
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Post by chaz on Jul 28, 2021 6:17:54 GMT -5
Agreed - people are allowed to decide either way if they want to back this or not and base that decision on a personal level, NOT for a "community" that only exists online. Personally, and as selfish as this sounds, I wouldn't back it just because a handful of guys here told me to because they themselves wanted it real bad. That's my $250 and I'll back it if I choose to. Think about it - if the bundle were of real value for the price and how they were offering it wasn't flawed, would there be so much hesitation / lack of backing right now? This is isn't on those people who decided not to back it. If it isn't backed, it's down to Mattel for what they offered and how they offered it. Also, for those discussing how they'll buy three to sell two of them on for inflated prices, you are also part of the problem. I would buy 100 if I could it’s a no brainer. If this doesn’t hit 5k then you get your money back....If this does hit 5k you will own something that you will be able to sell for double or triple the price. It makes no sense not to back this. And that's great that you'd do that to get the ring that you want. But some people can't afford to tie up $250 in this now with no promise of a reward, or even at the end of the window. I also don't think of it as something I'd want to flip for double or triple the price. If I want it and want the backing to be successful, I want it for myself and not eBay. So yes, back to my original post, it makes perfect sense not to back it. Just because YOU want it doesn't mean everybody else does. It's that simple. |
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Post by megapowerspt on Jul 28, 2021 6:34:32 GMT -5
if everyone who voted no backed it, it'd be past 1k now Will you cover my $250 for me? |
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Billy Snorticus
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 28, 2021 6:41:54 GMT -5
if everyone who voted no backed it, it'd be past 1k now Will you cover my $250 for me? no but you can resell it for double  |
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 28, 2021 6:48:45 GMT -5
Agreed - people are allowed to decide either way if they want to back this or not and base that decision on a personal level, NOT for a "community" that only exists online. Personally, and as selfish as this sounds, I wouldn't back it just because a handful of guys here told me to because they themselves wanted it real bad. That's my $250 and I'll back it if I choose to. Think about it - if the bundle were of real value for the price and how they were offering it wasn't flawed, would there be so much hesitation / lack of backing right now? This is isn't on those people who decided not to back it. If it isn't backed, it's down to Mattel for what they offered and how they offered it. Also, for those discussing how they'll buy three to sell two of them on for inflated prices, you are also part of the problem. I would buy 100 if I could it’s a no brainer. If this doesn’t hit 5k then you get your money back....If this does hit 5k you will own something that you will be able to sell for double or triple the price. It makes no sense not to back this. If that's true, then it will hit the 5K. Unfortunately, I think the demand for these particular items at this price point is going to show that isn't true. Personally, I don't have any interest in reselling items on the internet (let alone to picky wrestling collectors) so that angle isn't going to work for me. Don't want to deal with the hassle or potential issues (eBay favors the buyer from what horror stories that I've read) let alone shipping a huge ass ring. The couple of items I have (that I didn't return because I might sell them someday) are still here taking up space because I'd rather not deal with it (and I have slight hoarder tendencies, lol). |
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Post by chaz on Jul 28, 2021 6:50:19 GMT -5
Also just to raise a point for those thinking of reselling - if I won't pay $250 for this, what makes you think I'm going to give to you $500 or $750 for it later on?
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 28, 2021 6:55:09 GMT -5
Also just to raise a point for those thinking of reselling - if I won't pay $250 for this, what makes you think I'm going to give to you $500 or $750 for it later on? not you but someone who regrets missing it or someone new 2 collecting |
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Post by jokerjohn on Jul 28, 2021 7:34:09 GMT -5
Also just to raise a point for those thinking of reselling - if I won't pay $250 for this, what makes you think I'm going to give to you $500 or $750 for it later on? What you said makes total sense but as you've probably seen before once people know they can't easily get something they may not have even wanted in the first place demand automatically jumps. It's a wierd mentality some people have. It reminds me of Series 1 Brandi, once people found out a potential peg warmer and something people had little interest in wasn't included in cases the price sky rocketed. |
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The Real Chillary
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jul 28, 2021 7:37:27 GMT -5
If there are still people on the fence, I don't think focusing on/telling them to spend $250 on something they don't fully want/have the room for in hopes of there being future releases (that they also might not want) is the best strategy. I get that people want the ring, Diesel, Doink (some even want all three) so everyone has an angle to work so this gets funded so they personally get what they want, but some of the comments are going a little overboard. Just my two cents - not telling anyone to post differently - just to be aware that some of the comments might actually turn off the people who are still undecided. Agreed - people are allowed to decide either way if they want to back this or not and base that decision on a personal level, NOT for a "community" that only exists online. Personally, and as selfish as this sounds, I wouldn't back it just because a handful of guys here told me to because they themselves wanted it real bad. That's my $250 and I'll back it if I choose to. Think about it - if the bundle were of real value for the price and how they were offering it wasn't flawed, would there be so much hesitation / lack of backing right now? This is isn't on those people who decided not to back it. If it isn't backed, it's down to Mattel for what they offered and how they offered it. Also, for those discussing how they'll buy three to sell two of them on for inflated prices, you are also part of the problem.Thank you, couldn't have said it better. Especially the last part. You guys keeping on telling people to back it and sell it are going to do more damage than good. You'll actively turn people away from any interest they might have had. And suggesting to sell it on later makes you no better than the so called scalpers that bought up all the Slaughters. It makes you hypocrites. |
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Billy Snorticus
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 28, 2021 7:45:17 GMT -5
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Post by chaz on Jul 28, 2021 7:57:02 GMT -5
Being a wrestling figure collector does not by default - A.) require me to purchase this B.) leave me responsible for choosing not to back this if this project ultimately fails Sabotage suggests that everyone wants this but a select few are ruining it for everyone else when that clearly isn't the case. "Don't like it, don't buy it", NOT, "Don't like it, buy it anyway so I can have it and profit it from it." |
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The Real Chillary
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jul 28, 2021 8:03:44 GMT -5
Mattel sabotaged it, if anyone.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 28, 2021 8:08:44 GMT -5
Also just to raise a point for those thinking of reselling - if I won't pay $250 for this, what makes you think I'm going to give to you $500 or $750 for it later on? If only everybody thought like this haha. We have situations right now where something will sit on CLEARANCE for months…MONTHS on Ringside. The second it sells out, it shoots up in price and now everybody is paying like 10x the price for something they could have gotten for like 10 bucks. It’s unbelievable If they truly want to sell this ring, they should pull it off the go fund me and say everybody who funded will get one and that’s that, it’s over. Then a week from now, put them up on ringside for $500 each and I’ll guarantee you everybody willingly pays it. It’s just the nature of the collecting scene today. |
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