Confidence Level of the New Generation Ring getting to 5K

I could sell my Sail Barge for between 3 or 4 times what I paid for it. This happens with the Super7 stuff too. Once Big Bad sells out of a S7 figure the price immediately doubles. I’m positive there are people refusing to pay $275 right now that will justify paying $500 a year or two from now, assuming it gets made.

I paid $30 at Big Lots for the first authentic scale ring Mattel made. I sold it loose with no box for $150. People will start collecting after this comes out, people will regret passing, people will get more space. Lots of reasons this stuff happens, but it most definitely happens.

What could they have done to make it more worth while?

I honestly think the two tiers are what's killing it (in a bad way). If they added two popular New Gen talents (my opinion HBK & Razor) then it would've been fully funded by this point.

This is one of the best posts I’ve seen on the subject my guy. That’s a straight to point and pretty accurate breakdown. This is always why I’m still thinking of backing it and maybe even backing a second one. I’m gonna wait and see like many others but if it’s getting made, I’m gonna go for it. I just don’t have a lot of faith it’s gonna hit 5K let alone the other tiers.

I agree. I was looking at the Sail Barge, Giant X-Men Sentinel, and Giant Galactus to see for myself. It appears that these are one-of-a-kind items that never would have been released otherwise. For instance, I remember reading about the Barge years ago and hearing that Hasbro felt that it was never going to happen because it would cost too much to make, they weren't sure if enough people would buy it, and they felt stores would never purchase it to put on their shelves. So, the barge is something you will probably never see again. Same with the Giant Sentinel and Galactus, I saw a comparison to the normal six inch figures they sell at stores (for X-men and Marvel), these things are enormous, I can't imagine a store purchasing a lot of these, if any, to put on the shelves. Especially if they are going to cost $500 or more. So again, these are rare items that you wouldn't get otherwise. Whereas, like you said, they have made rings before so this item isn't that unique. Same for the Ultimate Edition figures, if the whole thing doesn't get backed, chances are an Ultimate Edition Diesel would probably get made anyway in the regular waves. The only thing in the set that is unique and most likely won't get made again would be the entrance, and maybe the Doink figure. I've also seen a lot of people say that they don't want the ring or the figures, just the sign. Or they want the ring and the skirts but not the entrance and the figure. And some just want the figures. It seems that those people don't want to pay $250 for just one part of the lot. This is also different from what Hasbro has done, the thing that you are paying for upfront is the thing the people wanted to begin with (Galactus, Sentinel, Sail Barge). And, the extra pieces all go to the original item that you want. For instance, for the Galactus figure, you get the giant Galactus figure with all the added articulation as the first tier (which is what people want). For the second tier reached, you get three additional heads/face sculpts for the Galactus figure which only work for this figure, so no one is out there saying I don't want the giant Galactus figure, I just want the three extra heads/face sculpts that I can't use on anything else. Same thing with the Sail Barge, everyone wants the Sail Barge, the added figures that come with it in the additional tiers are just icing on the cake. No one is saying they just want the Jabba figure, or the Yakface figure (like people are saying about the Diesel and Doink figure), they want the Sail Barge. To be fair to Mattel, I'm not sure there is anything they can make that would be comparable to the Sail Barge or Galactus or the Sentinels. I think even if they make the Smackdown entrance with the giant fist, people will say I don't want that with out the ring, or vice versa. But I could be wrong.

Hopefully, the thing will get backed. It's possible that people are waiting to the last week to fund it. 

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Initial hype when it’s released and people click the button

Charge people $250 there and then and they don’t click the button so easy, start thinking and then as days pass pick holes in it

10 away from 900

A lot of those early WrestleManias had a similar shaped entrance. It would’ve been cool had they made the led’s part of a default structure, and you can plug into the front the face plates to make it look like WrestleMania 8, WrestleMania 10, WrestleMania 13, etc. all the ones that used that little shoebox entrance. And they’d all light up.

And then as a tier bonus, include the Royal Rumble/ Superstars skirts from the early 90s because the entrance with the lights was also used for those shows as well.

In 2013 Mattel (Matty Collector) tried to sell a 6-inch scale Ecto-1 for $200ish. It would've featured opening doors & trunk, flashing headlights & red/blue lights, siren & engine revving sounds, and a pull-out rack for proton packs. They were also selling removable pack Stantz & Venkman for an extra $50. 

I ordered two bundles (car & figures) plus an extra car. You would only be charged if it actually hit the goal.

From what I remember it didn't even come close.

To their credit, Mattel did eventually release all four Ghostbusters with removable packs, but we never got the 6-inch scale Ecto-1. 

People complained about the cost back then too.

It's definitely not apples to apples.  There isn't that "big ticket" single item for WWE as there is with the other lines.  But I think do think there is definitely resale value in the set, and the ability to piece it out is actually pretty valuable.

Ultimate Edition figures are on fire, and there's clearly a market there beyond the Elite/Basic fandom who are willing to pay big bucks.  With a limited edition run and based on eras, I think Doink and Diesel are both $60-90 figures once supply dries up.  Figures that were available for a year+ like HHH go for close to $100.  Limited availability ones like HBK are going for close to $200 right now.  Rings hold value long term, though their prices rise and fall depending on current retail availability.  But I think it holds steady around $75-100.  So you're pretty much at a break even there, if it were to hit the Doink stretch without even considering the stage.

I've said it elsewhere, but I don't fault anyone for not buying if it's not an item they want.  But I think people are over-thinking the value here.  This is a limited edition, one time only piece.  It's not a mass market retail item.  And historically, those items do very well in terms of resale value and longterm appreciation.