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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Oct 9, 2021 16:37:22 GMT -5
Maybe Mattel decided to cut corners on Kane's elbow to improve Undertakers headscan? 😛
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 17:57:12 GMT -5
Holy jumping Jesus… that elbow!!
I have three Kane’s coming (one to open, one to display, and one for my nephew) and I may have to return all of them.
How in the hell does this happen? At this point with some of Mattel’s crap it shouldn’t be surprising, but they have managed to outdo themselves again in terms of “AWFUL THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.” Hasbro needs to get this license.
I love you.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Oct 9, 2021 18:52:15 GMT -5
This would be the best wrestling figure ever if it wasn’t for that goddamn right arm. Legit takes it from a 10/10 to a 7 or 8
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Post by kanepilk on Oct 9, 2021 19:16:28 GMT -5
It's mad that people are going on about the arm so much, when the paint blotch on the mask is much more unforgiving in my opinion. To the left of his nose, on both masks included, the paint is missing. Madness. Especially for a 'premium' figure.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Oct 9, 2021 19:20:54 GMT -5
Just got my order delivered, keeping Kane in box for the time being but Taker has been one of my most wanted figures in this attire forever. Obviously seeing the renders the main head was a huge concern, but I think they really improved on it for the final product. The two other heads, will remain stored away forever. The torso doesn’t look bad in person l, it seems to fit the attire well enough where it doesn’t look overly bulky. The coat, woo this things awesome. A bit of a pain to get on and off but now that it’s on, it’s staying in. With the main head and coat this figure is awesome, I could literally toss the rest away and that’s all this figure needed. My one gripe right now is there’s only one open hand and when I think of taker entrances, I always go to him at the corner and either slowly raising his arms to lift the lights or throwing his hands up and there’s only one hand that fits that pose. It feels more like an entrance greats figure since I’ll be leaving the coat on and I totally get the gripes with the other heads but I’m pleased with it I’d be swapping the hands from another fig anyway to get his proper gloves on instead of the MMA ones. The thing that throws the head for me is how light and faded the goatee is, if it was much darker, a bit bulkier and more defined I think that would fix a lot of what’s wrong with the main head. Yep that’s exactly the tweak I would make as well as removing the eye makeup to make this figure even better. He had a fuller and more coloured goatee then and the eye makeup was more a 2000s deadman signature. That would make it perfect. Even the second head is decent and would look even better for the era with these tweaks. The only head that is useless is the tongue out one since it is from the wrong era and with that look being disposed of, I would’ve removed the throat slitting gesture and had two open ones for his hand raising poses. |
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Post by kanepilk on Oct 9, 2021 19:31:18 GMT -5
One thing I will say about the elbow on Kane, though, is that if you're posing a Kane figure, you generally do one of two poses: Arms raised at shoulder height to imitate his pyro, or right arm behind his head imitating him stalking for a chokeslam.
Both require the elbow to be bent.
The picture posted earlier in the thread by neilmagnum of kane with his hands on his head really show how much of a mess this turned out to be. What a joke.
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 9, 2021 19:40:33 GMT -5
It's mad that people are going on about the arm so much, when the paint blotch on the mask is much more unforgiving in my opinion. To the left of his nose, on both masks included, the paint is missing. Madness. Especially for a 'premium' figure. The difference here, is 1 is fixable, and the other isn't quite so easy to fix. |
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Oct 9, 2021 19:44:39 GMT -5
It's mad that people are going on about the arm so much, when the paint blotch on the mask is much more unforgiving in my opinion. To the left of his nose, on both masks included, the paint is missing. Madness. Especially for a 'premium' figure. The difference here, is 1 is fixable, and the other isn't quite so easy to fix. I think another issue is even if you painted it, the possibility of paint chip is pretty high. If the joints had pins, you could probably sand off the elbow to prevent paint chip. I really hope Mattel decides to fix this. Anyone ask Steve yet? |
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Post by sandeep on Oct 9, 2021 20:45:55 GMT -5
The difference here, is 1 is fixable, and the other isn't quite so easy to fix. I think another issue is even if you painted it, the possibility of paint chip is pretty high. If the joints had pins, you could probably sand off the elbow to prevent paint chip. I really hope Mattel decides to fix this. Anyone ask Steve yet? he is not responding, this is what it is now. |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Oct 9, 2021 22:37:08 GMT -5
It's mad that people are going on about the arm so much, when the paint blotch on the mask is much more unforgiving in my opinion. To the left of his nose, on both masks included, the paint is missing. Madness. Especially for a 'premium' figure. This figure has that problem too? I saw 4 Summerslam basic Kanes the other day and every single one of them had this problem as well The difference between the arms and the heads is you can fix the head by using one of the original Kane heads that was released many times. The only way to fix the arms is to wait for another debut Kane with double jointed elbows. And even then they’ll probably do this again on one sleeve debut Kane, so you’re gonna have to wait for another two sleeve Kane to make sure the arm is molded in red |
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Oct 9, 2021 22:49:20 GMT -5
I think another issue is even if you painted it, the possibility of paint chip is pretty high. If the joints had pins, you could probably sand off the elbow to prevent paint chip. I really hope Mattel decides to fix this. Anyone ask Steve yet? he is not responding, this is what it is now. I'm genuinely curious to see if he does address this, but I hope people don't give him too hard of a time. |
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Post by sandeep on Oct 10, 2021 0:26:30 GMT -5
Now no more asking for any response from the designer and I except nothing from the company. If I have seen the Protos then I would have definitely cancelled my order but now they have shipped it and I have no choice. I'm a little happy that I have 2 more Kane figure Pre ordered in Pre order 2 and I have cancelled it.
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Post by LK3 on Oct 10, 2021 1:54:25 GMT -5
Steve isn't a designer. Ask Bill on Twitter or something.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Oct 10, 2021 3:44:15 GMT -5
Steve isn't a designer. Ask Bill on Twitter or something. I doubt you would get much more traction that way. They’re not going to send replacements unfortunately, the best we could hope for is a last minute run change. I don’t think that will happen either so we’re stuck with “battle damaged kane” |
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Post by LK3 on Oct 10, 2021 3:53:48 GMT -5
Steve isn't a designer. Ask Bill on Twitter or something. I doubt you would get much more traction that way. They’re not going to send replacements unfortunately, the best we could hope for is a last minute run change. I don’t think that will happen either so we’re stuck with “battle damaged kane” Doesn’t matter to me. Everyone just rushes to expect answers from Steve. |
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Oct 10, 2021 4:02:36 GMT -5
 Everybody is going to be YouTubing how to dye figures soon. Just gotta figure out what shade of red would match the body 🤔 |
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 4:45:57 GMT -5
It always puzzles me when they screw up Kane, like, he barely changed his look for 4 years
Remember when Jakks left the mouth unpainted?? WTF were THEY thinking!? At least this is kinda hidden, it’s still ridiculous and they probably cut a corner thinking we’d only get this to display with the cape on but man, cmon. It’ really is a straight forward design
I still want it though, it’s a toy, I’m easily pleased I guess. I love that Kane, especially the mullet sculpt, it looks just like him in WWF Warzone. Plus it gives me another chance to reminisce on finding that original Flashback Kane back in the day. That was, I believe, the first set to mix in the Legends line into the regular elite line and he was impossible to find. Thank God for Kmart ☺️👍
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Oct 10, 2021 4:54:54 GMT -5
I really don’t see a running change happening, it would seem this was designed this way, thus they wouldn’t deem it a defect or warrant a change. Hopefully bill or someone can explain the reasoning behind it at some point.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 6:44:26 GMT -5
You must be blind as a bat, the main head looks like undertaker from that era, the other two sculpts illl give it to you. I’ll rightfully disagree. Mattel has been known to reuse scans from modern Taker to pass off as flashback Taker. Look at the purple gloved undertaker and the American badass, they’re both the same scan used as the Wrestlemania 28 elite. The fact that people were complaining about this scan to begin with should let you know. If you remove the hair on this figure, you’ll see he looks far too old for that era. I still believe Jakks brothers of destruction sculpt looks better, despite having a balloon head.I thought the Mattel Entrance Greats with the wings was a good sculpt for this era but he had a different hair style on that show than he’s ever worn before or again, otherwise that head would be great. |
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Post by deadman89 on Oct 10, 2021 7:11:16 GMT -5
In regards to the scans, it’s just hard to understand how they can nail some so well (Kama, Goon, Rock, Bam Bam) and using the same technology struggle with others (HBK, Bret, Taker). I know we could go back and forth on the scan all day, but as others suggested, if the goatee was sculpted and a bit darker it could be improved. The side box detail shows that much, but I’m overall happy with it as it’ll stay displayed in the coat. As anticipated as these two were, I feel bad for figure photography folks as the Kane is gonna be tough to work around and even Takers expressive face is useless for this era
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