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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 30, 2022 14:13:54 GMT -5
I can’t imagine what the morale in the locker rooms must be after all the full time superstars who have been working hard and busting their asses weekly during a pandemic; only for WWE to give the top 2 Wrestlemania spots to Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 30, 2022 14:15:28 GMT -5
The Rumble was never about making stars? Drew McIntyre, Shinsuke Nakamura, Rey Mysterio, Batista, Chris Benoit, Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Lex Luger, Yokozuna. All of these names weren’t already in the Main Event picture until winning the Royal Rumble (for some, just the first one). Maybe were in some high profile feuds and being pushed towards the Main Event picture, but the Rumble win put them there. And then you have guys like Bray Wyatt, Kofi Kingston and Big E who were hotshotted to a world title when they couldve used a Royal Rumble win to establish themselves as main eventers. All 3 ended up being a flash in the pan.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Jan 30, 2022 14:18:54 GMT -5
Maryse channeling her inner lita and hitting a hurricarana on Edge was pretty sweet.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2022 14:49:18 GMT -5
Damn that men’s Royal Rumble match sucked hard ffs. Too crap man.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 30, 2022 14:49:32 GMT -5
The Rumble isn't a "star-making" match. Almost all of its winners were established stars until around 2011 when Del Rio won it, after that they experimented every few years with an unpredictable winner (Nak in 2018, Drew in 2020), but all the other winners were former champions and established main eventers. This idea of the Rumble being where WWE "makes stars" isn't based on anything and it comes up every year for some reason. Back in the day it was used to build people. HBK,Yokozuna, Austin, Nakamura, Benoit, Del Rio, McIntyre, Batista, Roman Reigns, and Rey Mysterio were never champions in WWE before they won. 10 of out 26 winners is almost half. You're forgetting that HBK and Austin won their first Rumbles during a time when the IC title was seen as a main event push. Both men had held that championship by 1995 and 1997 respectively, so were seen as top-level members of the roster. It wasn't until the Monday Night War that the IC title started to lose its status at the top of the card. Batista won the Rumble as part of a storyline that had started almost a year earlier, but I'll concede you're right on that one. I've already agreed with you about Nak and Del Rio. Didn't mention Benoit because him. Forgot about McIntyre. Overall, I'd say the only experimental let's-see-if-the-Rumble-makes-them-a-star type winners have been Yoko, Benoit ( that guy), Batista (but not really), Sheamus, Del Rio, and McIntyre. Everyone else was already a made man at the top of the card. I mean, that's just my opinion and I see why you think differently.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2022 14:52:53 GMT -5
I’m a big Shane fan & I loved seeing him in the match but I’m not surprised others hated it. They probably got tired of seeing him since 2016 plus it’s hasn’t been too long since we last saw him wrestling. The same for Bad Bunny as we saw him only a year ago or so.
I’d have kept those two in the match but at least thrown in X PAC, Kane, Carlito, RVD or some talents from Impact.
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Post by PrincessOfSunlight on Jan 30, 2022 15:00:11 GMT -5
Think the biggest indictment of it was nobody looked good in the match, like usually you can have some highlights or someone who stands out even if they don’t win but it was just one guy after the next and then Brock won. And yeah it would take quite something for someone to win over Brock ordinarily but there wasn’t anyone even near it but I don’t think the winner was the biggest problem with this match, it was just a chore to watch and all the proof needed that nobody on the roster but Roman and Brock matters. Oh and Bad Bunny, of course. Just a real shame but I do feel like this is gonna be the way going forward, it fits tonally with everything they’re doing on tv.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 30, 2022 15:16:05 GMT -5
I can definitely say there wasn’t one result that I wasn’t happy with. I’m excited to have Ronda back.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Jan 30, 2022 15:39:20 GMT -5
When Shane McMahon is in the final three of the Royal Rumble in the year of our lord 2022, you dun goofed.
Bad Bunny should've won.
Roman/Seth was far and away the match of the night. Early Match of the Year Candidate and it's only January 30th.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 30, 2022 16:26:58 GMT -5
Has the WWE Title ever been viewed in a lower light than it is currently? This is suppose to be THE main title of the WWE, yet it’s been booked as an afterthought for a year now. Roman as The Tribal Chief has been the main focus of the WWE since Roman’s return a year and a half ago, and between midcarders like Jinder, Miz, Kofi, and Big E all getting runs with it in recent memory, the title comes off just as worthless as the WHC did in its final few years of exhistence. And on top of this, you have Lashley get a lackluster win last night, and was completely forgotten about as soon as the next match-promo ran.
I keep seeing people say they should have used the rumble to build Lashley’s WM opponent, but it wouldn’t have mattered as the WWE booked themselves into a corner as usual. Even if Lesnar wasn’t in the Rumble, we all know he’s going after Roman for the 1,000th time. If they gave the rumble win to someone like AJ, Orton, Big E, or Drew, we know they’re going after Lashley, which makes them look weak for going after the “lesser” of the two belts. Now you could book a triple threat for the Universal Title, but the WWE Title still comes off as an after thought.
The WWE Title isn’t view in a “1999 IC Title” light right now. It’s in a “2010-2013” WHC” light (maybe lower), which is a total shame.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 30, 2022 17:04:42 GMT -5
What exactly is the point in WWE having a full time roster? No matter how hard they work they will always play second fiddle to the part timers. It's 2022 time to invest in the future.
Brock didn't even get a huge pop when he won. Shane McMahon's return even got a bigger reaction lol.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Jan 30, 2022 17:18:54 GMT -5
really the show itself wasnt bad, the only bad result imo is ronda winning the women's rumble.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jan 30, 2022 17:27:05 GMT -5
really the show itself wasnt bad, the only bad result imo is ronda winning the women's rumble. You are really gonna die on this weird hill where they are several people on here who seemed excited Ronda was back.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 30, 2022 17:34:12 GMT -5
“WWE doesn’t make new stars” is just another way for people to say “WWE isn’t pushing who I want them to!”
WWE has tried in the last few years to make new stars in Jinder, Kofi, Drew, Lashley and Big E. And over half of them were met with constant bitching.
Most the people complaining about Brock winning legit wanted Styles to win.
Most the people complaining about Ronda winning legit wanted Alexa or Sasha to win.
It’s hilarious.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2022 17:40:52 GMT -5
The results don’t bother me at all tbh and most of the stuff was good or decent enough apart from the men’s Rumble. I’ve always wanted Lesnar to win a second Rumble and it’s about time he did it.
But man that Rumble match was too bad. Easily as bad as 2014.2015,2012. One of the worst Rumbles ever with no excitement, not much star power as it should have had, surprises lacked too.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jan 30, 2022 17:54:20 GMT -5
This rumble match wasn’t great but it doesn’t touch the one where Sheamus won and he, Jericho, and Miz were the only stars in the match, the Hollywood Batista win, and the Roman Philadelphia Authority one. Those are the three worst ones of all time.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 30, 2022 18:04:24 GMT -5
This rumble match wasn’t great but it doesn’t touch the one where Sheamus won and he, Jericho, and Miz were the only stars in the match, the Hollywood Batista win, and the Roman Philadelphia Authority one. Those are the three worst ones of all time. The 2015 one was the worst booked one of all time and not because Roman won.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 18:11:20 GMT -5
There are probably worse rumbles in history during times when I wasn't watching wrestling at all (2010-2015ish), but as far as rumbles when I've been an active fan of wrestling, this was by far the worst from top to bottom.
Reigns/Seth was a pretty good match. That's about all I can say positive. Oh, and it was really sweet to see Mickie come out to hardcore country and wear the impact title. I enjoyed that moment.
If you liked it hey, great for you no hate, but man this company is just not for me at all anymore. Probably for the best there's only so many hours in the week and it represents a pretty big time commitment to stay invested.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jan 30, 2022 18:50:23 GMT -5
“WWE doesn’t make new stars” is just another way for people to say “WWE isn’t pushing who I want them to!” WWE has tried in the last few years to make new stars in Jinder, Kofi, Drew, Lashley and Big E. And over half of them were met with constant bitching. Most the people complaining about Brock winning legit wanted Styles to win. Most the people complaining about Ronda winning legit wanted Alexa or Sasha to win. It’s hilarious. Drew and Lashley are treated as fillers who always take a back seat to the WWE's "main attractions". Both of whom were just used as extras in the SD title feud lol. Kofi and E were popular wins that were giving nothing storywise to go forward with to strengthen that connection with the audience, and quickly reduced back to mid roles unceremoniously. Jinder lol And in all those cases and others, there wasn't some big defense of the individuals. Just the same tired rhetoric and insults in defense of the company itself. "Indie marks lulz". "Then why do you still watch lulz". "Vanilla spot midgets lulz". Heck, those who back Vince in everything were heckling just as loudly as anyone else. Finally, it isn't THAT Brock or Ronda won, it's the WHY. They claim no one on the roster they themselves meticulously maintain and contract was worthy enough to have the spotlight cast on them. That is a managerial and creative failure, not a consumer one. Not one talent had serious momentum going in. Brock and McIntyre weren't even announced. Sasha just came back Friday. Big veteran names like Styles, Mysterio, and Orton have been in tag teams for the past year. Belair, E, and Owens were just floating about for the Rumble build. Why should Joe Schmo care about anyone else over the mainstream names they recognize outside the Universe? Not even asking that much, just give them coherent motivation. These wins would have less pushback if people were actually engaged in the story or if their success didn't come at the expense of others in the match.
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Post by Triple S on Jan 30, 2022 20:01:49 GMT -5
This rumble match wasn’t great but it doesn’t touch the one where Sheamus won and he, Jericho, and Miz were the only stars in the match, the Hollywood Batista win, and the Roman Philadelphia Authority one. Those are the three worst ones of all time. The 2015 one was the worst booked one of all time and not because Roman won. My problem with last night, is that it gave me those 2015 vibes. Instead of Kane and Big Show literally just dumping people one by one… it was Lesnar. Just picking them up and dropping them over. Even with Drew last. No back and forth, making Drew look strong in defeat. Nope. Missed Claymore, picked up and dumped over. 2015, 2014 and 2022… Top 3 worst Rumbles in recent WWE history.
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